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Goran just bought a $70,000 GMC Sierra Denali because he didn't listen to Paul Krugman and actually made money

By Goran_K following x   2017 Oct 6, 11:20am 5,262 views   161 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


As you may have remembered, back in June 2017, I posted a thread where I was looking for a full size truck (to replace my Audi Q5 as my primary mode of transportation).

Looked at Toyota Tundras, Ford F150s, and Dodge 1500 Rebels. In the end, the truck that fit me the best was the GMC Sierra Denali.



GMC Sierra Denali Quick stats
- 420 hp @ 5600 rpm
- 460 lb-ft of torque @ 4100 rpm
- 4x4 Drive
- Onyx Black paint
- DENALI ULTIMATE PACKAGE
- 8.1 inch nav/entertainment screen

This truck kicks ass. Thanks Trump.

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41   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 6, 3:35pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Monster truck, dropped numbers, guns, bragging... Goran seems to be compensating a bit...
42   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 6, 3:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

me123 says
Jealous? While you whine nonstop about income inequality and the cost of buying a house. I wonder who really has a problem here.

Yeah do I need to compare my d- to Goran's to see that he's compensating?
Uh...no.
43   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 6, 4:00pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Heraclitusstudent says
Monster truck, dropped numbers, guns, bragging... Goran seems to be compensating a bit...


Trucks, guns, money? Isn't that just being an American male of some esteem?
44   bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 6, 4:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

me123 says
lostand confused says
bob2356 says
Good looking truck. About $68,000 more than I usually pay for a truck, but I like people to take a lot of depreciation first before I buy.

Huh??? You buy $2,000 trucks????


That's all bobby can afford on this monthly Medicaid check.


Too funny coming from someone hoping their yearly income will break into 5 figures some day.

lostand confused says
bob2356 says
Good looking truck. About $68,000 more than I usually pay for a truck, but I like people to take a lot of depreciation first before I buy.

Huh??? You buy $2,000 trucks????


and contentedly drive them for many many years.
45   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 6, 4:28pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

bob2356 says
and contentedly drive them for many many years.


I'm not saying you're lying, but a cursory glance at AutoTrader and Cars.com shows me that $2,000 trucks look like they would drive like complete garbage without some serious work and there aren't very many choices.

I guess you're a very lucky guy to be getting all these super reliable $2,000 trucks (that somehow don't end up on two of the largest online car selling websites on the planet) that you can drive problem free without any work.
46   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 6, 4:33pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

bob2356 says
and contentedly drive them for many many years

Where do you get them. My first car was a Geo metro I bought used 3 years old and 45k miles on it for 3,400 and thsi was in the 90s. I drove that thing for another 100k miles with only occasional oil changes and one tire change, before the tranny gave out.

But a 2,000 bucks truck that can tow reliably in hilly country?? Do you tow live cargo by any chance? Coming down with 12,000 pounds down the sierras-sorry -stuff happens -but on a 2k truck. Well maybe you are just lucky?? Do you buy 2k and replace evrything-just curious, because you mentioned you towed.
47   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 6, 4:44pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

lostand confused says
But a 2,000 bucks truck that can tow reliably in hilly country?? Do you tow live cargo by any chance? Coming down with 12,000 pounds down the sierras-sorry -stuff happens -but on a 2k truck. Well maybe you are just lucky?? Do you buy 2k and replace evrything-just curious, because you mentioned you towed.


I'd like to know this too.
48   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 6, 4:47pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Heraclitusstudent says
Yeah do I need to compare my d- to Goran's to see that he's compensating?
Uh...no.


No, but you'll make multiple post thinking about it right? Care to make another one pretending that you don't care? You're almost convincing us.
49   Ironworker   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 6, 5:36pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Nice truck. Congratulations. I will probably go for the cheaper version of Silverado sometime in the future. I love trucks too. I own big piece of land in Washoe county.
50   anonymous   ignore (5)   2017 Oct 6, 7:38pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Nice truck. Glad to see you ignored Krugman. I guess you also quit listening to Peter Schiff who you used to vigorously defend years ago.

Schiff called for the market to be a disaster under Trump. And the year before...and the year before...
51   bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 7, 1:26pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Goran_K says
I guess you're a very lucky guy to be getting all these super reliable $2,000 trucks (that somehow don't end up on two of the largest online car selling websites on the planet) that you can drive problem free without any work

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lostand confused says
But a 2,000 bucks truck that can tow reliably in hilly country?? Do you tow live cargo by any chance? Coming down with 12,000 pounds down the sierras-sorry -stuff happens -but on a 2k truck. Well maybe you are just lucky?? Do you buy 2k and replace evrything-just curious, because you mentioned you towed.


Who said anything about no work? All cars need work. I do my own work. I use good quality parts, oem or better. Since I'm not on the clock I can do a lot better and more comprehensive job than a line mechanic can afford to do. I like fixing cars, it's not rocket science. Parts are a lot cheaper than car payments and comp insurance. I keep careful records, the suburban averaged $600 for 15k driving a year the last 4 years not including tires. That's $50 a month with zero depreciation. I'll take be a bottom feeder thank you very much.

Why am I lucky? My brakes are better than OEM and have fresh fluid to boot. Trust me your dealer doing a routine brake job won't be replacing the brake fluid, cleaning and lubing the pins, lubing dry boots, or truing up the rotors even though they are not scored like I do. What kind of stuff happens if everything is checked out frequently? Almost all problems give you warnings that something is up. Just fix it at the first sign something doesn't seem right. I've haven't been stranded in years, but it could happen. It could happen with a brand new car too. That's what AAA is for.

Keeping things for years and years means if I see a killer deal that upgrades my ride I can grab it. That stuff is usually local and frequently word of mouth. I don't have to shop or be under any pressure to buy.


Hey, enjoy your truck it's a beauty. Don't know why you want to be insulting just because other people have different priorities. Whatever dude.
52   CBOEtrader   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 7, 1:40pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

me123 says
lostand confused says
bob2356 says
Good looking truck. About $68,000 more than I usually pay for a truck, but I like people to take a lot of depreciation first before I buy.

Huh??? You buy $2,000 trucks????


That's all bobby can afford on this monthly Medicaid check.


Lol Medicaid is health insurance for the despondent. I believe you mean SSI :)

For the record, I think its cool that Bob save a money on a $2k truck as long as the thing is reliable
53   anonymous   ignore (5)   2017 Oct 7, 3:13pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Proud owner of a 74 ford 3/4 ton here. Me & a neighbor bought it 5 years ago for $1400. Can sell it for that now.

Note - this is NOT a daily driver. We don't drive more than 50 miles or much past 50mph. Probably put about 2000 miles a year on it. Plus by driving our modern midsize sedans we are far more environmentally friendly than Goran or my fellow urban warrior who needs it only once in every 20 trips.

The other thing is that IF they make it more than say 20 years they seem to run FOREVER. It's almost a "selection bias" issue that if you can make it to 25-you can just as easily make it to 40. In the 5 years we have had it I can count on one hand the number of times it has broken down on me or my neighbor
54   bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 7, 7:23pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

me123 says
bob2356 says
Don't know why you want to be insulting just because other people have different priorities.
;

Did you really just post that? wow, you and that duck are suffering from the same illness.


I was talking to someone who could afford a cool truck, not patnets village idiot. It is good to see you back however. Every group needs a lowest common denominator.

me123 says

That's even funnier, considering you buy $2000 vehicles and I always buy brand new vehicles.

I really wish I could get my yearly income down to 5 figures, I really hate paying taxes on a 6 figure income.


Sorry but you can't include the decimal point and comma as figures. They would have taught you that if you had stayed in school long enough to graduate 6th grade. Brand new match box cars don't count in this thread.
55   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 7, 9:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Goran_K says
lostand confused says
But a 2,000 bucks truck that can tow reliably in hilly country?? Do you tow live cargo by any chance? Coming down with 12,000 pounds down the sierras-sorry -stuff happens -but on a 2k truck. Well maybe you are just lucky?? Do you buy 2k and replace evrything-just curious, because you mentioned you towed.


I'd like to know this too.


I bought a 97 Expedition for 1600 about two years ago. Never let me sit. I had to put a battery and an alternator in it shortly after purchasing. Never let me sit, and it was fun to drive. I beat the hell out of it. I just scrapped it for 350.

If you’re a good horse trader, you can always find good deals. You just have to know what you’re doing and know how to work deals.
56   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 7, 10:22pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Goran_K says
Trucks, guns, money? Isn't that just being an American male of some esteem?


In a ghetto, it is.
57   bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 8, 4:34am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Heraclitusstudent says
Goran_K says
Trucks, guns, money? Isn't that just being an American male of some esteem?


In a ghetto, it is.


Replace the money part with dog and you have the red states idea of esteem..
60   BlueSardine   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 8, 7:50am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Who gives a fuck when you're a top feeder.
HEY YOU says
How much did it depreciate the moment you closed the deal.
61   jvolstad   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 8, 3:24pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

What a waste of money. I have never understood why people want to drive these huge trucks for daily transportation.

If I had $70K to spend for a new car, I would go with a Honda Accord and donate the rest charity.
62   anonymous   ignore (5)   2017 Oct 8, 7:42pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Everyone is entitled to a vice - Marybeth two. Like others I top out in the high 20s for a car but will gleefully drop $300 for an over the top meal/experience. Same goes with travel - will spend serious coin for a bucket list experience.

So I cut the guy a break if his thing is vehicles. While I think his spending is wasteful if he isn't into food/wine he thinks the same about my "wasteful" meal when he can get one for 7.99 at the Olive Garden. To each his own.
64   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 9, 8:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

70K for a truck, no wonder GM stock is doing so well lately.
65   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 8:28am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

zzyzzx says
70K for a truck, no wonder GM stock is doing so well lately.


Buy buy buy!
66   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 8:33am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anonymous says
Everyone is entitled to a vice - Marybeth two. Like others I top out in the high 20s for a car but will gleefully drop $300 for an over the top meal/experience. Same goes with travel - will spend serious coin for a bucket list experience.

So I cut the guy a break if his thing is vehicles. While I think his spending is wasteful if he isn't into food/wine he thinks the same about my "wasteful" meal when he can get one for 7.99 at the Olive Garden. To each his own.


I'll be honest, I often do spend ridiculous amounts on meals when I do go out. Not like $300 every night, but I usually don't spend under $60 an entree, add wine, and tip and it goes up pretty fast.

Most of the time though I am eating at home just because I love cooking. Nothing like making a venison stew from a deer you harvested with your own rifle. It's awesome.
67   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 8:35am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

errc says
If you’re a good horse trader, you can always find good deals. You just have to know what you’re doing and know how to work deals.


Exactly. I think anyone who didn't listen to Krugman obviously knows what they're doing as evidenced from the trillions of dollars of networth added to those people's portfolios over the past 12 months.
68   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 9, 8:45am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Booger says


I actually saw this on I-95 near Baltimore!!!
Came and went too fast for me to get out the camera, plus it was raining.
69   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 9:35am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

me123 says
It's been over $5 trillion since Trump won, but iwog will post his TDS threads anyway.


I'm still waiting for him to defend his hero, but fortunately he's been very low key and hesitant to even type out Krugman's name after spending YEARS (I've been a member of Pat net for over 6 years) vomiting Krugman's economic predictions and policy calls all over PatNet to anyone who would listen.

I managed to save a few of these gems for everyone to examine and judge for themselves.

iwog says
All I've seen is Krugman mopping the floor with Shiller. Austrians just got fucked to death by fake data and intermediate school math mistakes.........and KRUGMAN is on the ropes???? LOL


iwog says

The point is often misunderstood or misstated.

A stable economy is a circular flow of money. A profit is a local increase in money for one person and a local decrease in money for another person. This means everyone cannot earn a profit. Obviously. If your money supply is somewhat stable, which it is in all 1st world nations, capitalists are taking money away from consumers constantly.


Bonus, Iwog's hero featured in Dilbert


Krugman only won a Nobel Prize because he spouted off about socialist economic policies in a way that made people feel good, and he sucked off Bill Clinton. Otherwise, he's a retard and anyone who listened to him in the past 6 years probably lost all of their money and is very poor.

Krugman and Clinton caused the 2008 economic collapse. They should be in jail.
70   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 9, 10:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

vomiting Krugman's economic predictions and policy calls all over PatNet to anyone who would listen.

—————-

Odd that this appears to be a lie
71   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 10:24am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

errc says
Odd that this appears to be a lie


I've just posted two very clear examples of Iwog sucking off Paul Krugman. Where is the lie again?
72   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 9, 11:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Goran_K says
errc says
Odd that this appears to be a lie


I've just posted two very clear examples of Iwog sucking off Paul Krugman. Where is the lie again?


You said vomiting all over patnet to anyone who would listen
73   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 11:20am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

errc says
You said vomiting all over patnet to anyone who would listen


Yes. Iwog is a die hard Keynesian and has been spectacularly wrong the past few years about how the economy would go, especially his insights on Trump.
74   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 11:21am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says
Why not just admit you were wrong?


That is the question here isn't it Iwog?
75   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 11:37am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says
You are not going to find any threads or any posts of mine contradicting any of this.


I won't find any threads contradicting you changing your "crash prediction" half a dozen times?

oook.
76   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 9, 11:41am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Goran_K says
As you may have remembered, back in June 2017, I posted a thread where I was looking for a full size truck


It took you 4 months to buy a vehicle?
77   CBOEtrader   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 9, 12:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

The new ford f450 is 100k
78   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 1:03pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

zzyzzx saysIt took you 4 months to buy a vehicle?


On and off. Got busy with buying the property in Alaska. Then remembered I wanted a truck. Doesn’t help that I’m very OCD.
79   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 3:00pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (4)     quote      

Iwog just wants some of my attention. I’m a little busy though not listening to Krugman and actually making money.

Don’t worry Iwog I’ll be back for you.
80   Blurtman   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 9, 3:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

What about an Audi S8?

605HP @ 6,100-6,800 rpm
517 lb-ft @ 1,750-6,000 rpm

Or even an S6?

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