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Donald Trump has another twitter tantrum, wants to bring back fairness doctrine.................for jokes!

By iwog following x   2017 Oct 7, 7:28am 292 views   20 comments   watch   quote     share  

I suppose we need to legislate what is funny now. Stupid Americans, don't they know that they need to laugh at Democrats also?

The fairness doctrine was an FCC mandate (and law I believe) that required the opposition to have equal time whenever a political view was broadcast. This applied to political ads as well as commentary. It worked very well for decades and prevented fake news channels like FOX from becoming pure propaganda outlets. Reagan Republicans hated America when they took power and removed this rule and the country has never been the same since.

In a mind-numbing display of gross stupidity, Donald Trump apparently wants a fairness doctrine to apply to late night television comedy.



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1 PCGyver   2017 Oct 7, 7:34am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Trump would not have won with a fairness doctrine in place.
2 anonymous   2017 Oct 7, 8:32am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Orange is the new moron.
3 HEY YOU   2017 Oct 7, 8:33am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
I see what you did there.
Started with Donald Trump,ended with jokes.
He's a constant joke.He opens his mouth & my sides cramp from uncontrolled laughter.
Now he wants to tell Free Market Media what they can put on the air.
Anti-American,Anti-Republican,Anti-Conservative,Anti-Free Speech,Anti-Freedom!


When he dies & goes to Heaven.
The voice he will hear when he gets there: Go to Hell!
4 Quigley   2017 Oct 7, 8:51am   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        
We MAGA types mostly already know that the POTUS is no brain surgeon, has sketchy morals, and a YUUUUGE ego.
How many times must I say it?
The Revolution is about the movement, not the orange guy! It's about taking back America from the evil idiots trying to turn her into another dictatorship, with their little elitist oligarchy in charge of it all. They've been working overtime to insert wedges between segments of our population. They want us to be enemies with our neighbors and friends. Divide and conquer is still a valid strategy. Some of us are aware and are resisting this attack on our national cohesiveness, national identity, our rights, and our Constitution.

I dare you to find a single Leftist who respects the Constitution and doesn't want to tear up large sections of it for "modern interpretation."

I dare you to find a single Leftist who wants to keep the Bill of Rights as is!

In short, we are besieged by totalitarian Leftists, and we have no choice but to #resist or we will abdicate our rights and freedoms to a ravening pack of self-righteous hyenas!
5 anonymous   2017 Oct 7, 9:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
MAGA Recuntlitards hate the Constitution and want to replace it with anything that makes their feelz, because reasons.
6 iwog   2017 Oct 7, 10:06am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Quigley says
The Revolution is about the movement, not the orange guy! It's about taking back America from the evil idiots trying to turn her into another dictatorship, with their little elitist oligarchy in charge of it all. They've been working overtime to insert wedges between segments of our population. They want us to be enemies with our neighbors and friends. Divide and conquer is still a valid strategy. Some of us are aware and are resisting this attack on our national cohesiveness, national identity, our rights, and our Constitution.


You still don't understand.

You're making the radical left stronger, not weaker. Every moronic thing this president says or does convinces more people that they made a mistake. If a legitimate reformer comes along, people are going to rightly feel like they don't want to be suckered in again and vote establishment.

OR when Donald Trump is finally run out on a rail, the mob will become even more radicalized and install a true dictator next time. Why do you think Antifa has gotten so bold and attracts so many members these days? Either way this is a massive failure.
7 BayAreaObserver   2017 Oct 7, 10:14am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
"It's about taking back America from the evil idiots trying to turn her into another dictatorship, with their little elitist oligarchy in charge of it all."

From It Can’t Happen Here (1935): “But he saw too that in America the struggle was befogged by the fact that the worst Fascists were they who disowned the word ‘Fascism’ and preached enslavement to Capitalism under the style of Constitutional and Traditional Native American Liberty.”


http://technoccult.net/archives/2010/03/03/who-really-said-when-fascism-comes-to-america-it-will-come-wrapped-in-the-flag-and-waving-a-cross/

8 iwog   2017 Oct 7, 11:52am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Quigley says
I dare you to find a single Leftist who respects the Constitution and doesn't want to tear up large sections of it for "modern interpretation."

I dare you to find a single Leftist who wants to keep the Bill of Rights as is!


The Constitution is not usable the way it is, without broad interpretation. A strict reading of the Constitution will not only eliminate things like Social Security but it will also severely tie the president's hands in matters of Foreign Affairs and commerce. This is an untenable situation considering how useless Congress is now. You can also forget things like equal protection which is not explicitly laid out in the Constitution however forms the basis of many of our laws.

A return to a weak central government and strong states rights is a very bad direction. It's the primary reason why we had a civil war.
9 bob2356   2017 Oct 7, 11:53am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Quigley says
It's about taking back America from the evil idiots trying to turn her into another dictatorship, with their little elitist oligarchy in charge of it all.


I'm so glad we have billionaire trump with his all star koch bro's wet dream billionaire cabinet to protect us from elitist oligarchy being in charge of it all. I feel so much better now.

Seriously do you ever read what you write or do you just cut and paste from wingnut.com.
10 Quigley   2017 Oct 7, 11:56am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Your meme would describe the Clinton and Obama Presidencies quite accurately.

Use your brain! BushII donors were all the same as Hillary donors!

Watching the partisan politics unfold in america is like watching WWE wrestling. Sure, there are two sides with a flashy competition, but they both work for the same boss! Fake politics, fake news, fake choices between bought and paid for candidates/wrestlers.
11 Quigley   2017 Oct 7, 1:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
The Constitution is not usable the way it is,

Thanks, but I already knew you were a Leftist. You didn't have to confirm it.
Somehow we've managed to muddle along for 230 years with it. Replacing it with Das Kapital or Mein Kamph isn't really prudent.
12 me123   2017 Oct 7, 1:15pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says
Why do you think Antifa has gotten so bold and attracts so many members these days?


"so many members", like the Bernie special snowflake supporters? You really think they have any real influence, while living in mommy's basement?
13 joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 7, 4:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Quigley says
Sure, there are two sides with a flashy competition, but they both work for the same boss! Fake politics, fake news, fake choices between bought and paid for candidates/wrestlers


See that's complete bullshit. I challenge you to list the areas which you think both sides are the same and let's look at the bills that were passed to implement it and how both sides voted.
14 iwog   2017 Oct 7, 5:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Quigley says
Thanks, but I already knew you were a Leftist. You didn't have to confirm it.


This is why conversations with the right always die. I listed some very specific reasons for my argument and you responded with nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Quigley says
Somehow we've managed to muddle along for 230 years with it.


By allowing a broad interpretation of the constitution through the courts. See what I mean? I dove right to the core of the issues involved and all you could do is say "Mein Kamph"

When I say things like "Republicans are not qualified to vote" y'all think it's hyperbole. In fact it's an extremely well considered opinion based on conversations like this one.
15 Quigley   2017 Oct 7, 9:20pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Not every issue SHOULD be up for a popular vote! The popular vote can be too easily swayed toward evil and anarchy. That's why you need a Constitutional Republic so you have general laws to follow which may not be easily changed. The Constitution is SUPPOSED to be rather inflexible! If it was too unspecific and too easily interpreted as widely as an imam interpreting the Koran, it would be of no use as a guide.

But feel free to insult instead of supporting your argument. I'm sure it really helps.
16 iwog   2017 Oct 7, 9:58pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Quigley says
The Constitution is SUPPOSED to be rather inflexible!


No it's not. No one should insist a document created centuries ago is useful as is in today's world. Furthermore there is no legitimate pathway to amend the constitution anymore since these issues have been split nearly 50-50 for decades. The 2nd amendment is a great example of something that cannot be changed in either direction under any scenario because the 3/4ths state rule is too restrictive. Our form of government is actually quite broken and will eventually lead to a collapse.

Quigley says
But feel free to insult instead of supporting your argument. I'm sure it really helps.


I'm trying to embarrass you into addressing even one of my points but I guess it didn't work.
17 APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   2017 Oct 8, 7:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
The founding fathers were CANNIBAL! ANARCHISTS! that believed in personal responsibility and personal ownership of unlimited firepower.
18 Quigley   2017 Oct 8, 8:04am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says
Furthermore there is no legitimate pathway to amend the constitution anymore since these issues have been split nearly 50-50 for decades


That only reinforces my point about the Constitution being there to thwart evil decisions by the majority. Only a major majority will be able to make changes to the law, and this ensures that capricious decisions influenced by propaganda aren't likely to wind up codified into the police state. If 50% or close are against a change to the underpinning law of the land, then that's enough to split our nation down the middle and incur another incredibly damaging civil war. Thus, it's not a good idea!

I would think this would be obvious, even to a duck.
19 Quigley   2017 Oct 8, 8:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
broad interpretation


To address your "point" directly, this term is so vague as to be meaningless. This "broad interpretation" can be construed to mean the exact opposite of the stated law by ill-meaning lawyer types. Thus, I and the majority of other citizens are wary of lawyerly interpretations of existing law, having been burned before many times. Your point is just that you want to define Constitutional law as whatever you want it to be. This defeats the entire purpose of a Constitution and render it void. See Venezuela for examples, where their current dictator has seen fit to redefine their Constitution to fit his goals, and stack their judiciary with cronies and suitably cowed judges.

Sorry duck, but your idea leads directly to totalitarian government, which has been proven time and again to be the most miserable of human conditions.
20 iwog   2017 Oct 8, 10:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Quigley says
Sorry duck, but your idea leads directly to totalitarian government, which has been proven time and again to be the most miserable of human conditions.


You just don't understand history. The leaders can and will ignore the constitution as necessary. The argument you are making will ultimately make it EASIER and not harder for leaders to ignore it out of necessity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_Soviet_Constitution

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