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Pence walks out of Colts Game

By TwoScoopsPlissken following x   2017 Oct 8, 2:10pm 1,487 views   63 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    







"Don't worry, we'll pick up the Milenials. They're all about Social Justice!"

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1   TwoScoopsPlissken   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 8, 2:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      




We live in a time and place where "Conservative Pundits" expect the VP to do shut up and do or say nothing at a nationally televised event where the Flag, Anthem disrespected.



Let that sink in.
2   iwog   ignore (3)   2017 Oct 8, 3:03pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (5)     quote      

What a fucking idiot.

1. He knew they were going to do it.
2. He knew tens of thousands of fans were going to stand respectfully.
3. He went to the game anyway because he wanted to grandstand.
4. if they didn't kneel, he probably wouldn't know what to do since he probably had appointments based on this theater show.

You better stop fucking around with irrelevant shit like this and spend the time getting your orangutan on a leash. He apparently wants to regulate late night comedy and y'all act like THIS is the problem.

Unbelievable.
3   TwoScoopsPlissken   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 8, 3:08pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says
You better stop fucking around with irrelevant shit like this and spend the time getting your orangutan on a leash. He apparently wants to regulate late night comedy and y'all act like THIS is the problem.


Politicians shouldn't walk out of an event where the performers are insulting the Flag and Anthem?
4   Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 8, 3:10pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

I think the VP was right to do it, even if planned.
5   someone else   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 8, 3:40pm   ↑ like (7)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

The unity of the country is at stake when the media is 24/7 about identity politics of various divisive subgroups.

We will die as a country without unity.

No unity, no United States.
7   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 8, 6:06pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

NFL games are not the place for NFL players to protest!

NFL games are for Freedom loving small government Politicians to spend taxpayer money, to protest Americans protesting!!

I thought y’all were done watching the NFL, in protest?
8   Sniper   ignore (10)   2017 Oct 8, 6:14pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

anonymous says
Nice use of taxpayers money to sent Pence & family to Indy for the weekend


Yep, almost as good as the taxpayers paying for Obama and the Wookie flying to NY to have a dinner date.
10   Booger   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 8, 6:33pm   ↑ like (7)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I'm not going to sit around and watch millionaires pout because they lost an election.
11   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Oct 8, 6:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says
getting your orangutan on a leash.


Cracked me up!
12   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (26)   2017 Oct 8, 6:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

He was late for a savage ASS! FUCKING! by Putin's viscount, a guy from Kazakhstan with no eyes who is led around by a rabid basset hound named Guldana that shows up every afternoon to sodomize Pence and remind him who is in charge.
13   FortWayne   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 8, 7:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Got your point AF
14   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 8, 7:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

God knows, that’s why the quadruple post.
15   Quigley   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 8, 7:15pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

http://nypost.com/2017/10/08/kaepernicks-girlfriend-he-wont-be-standing-for-anthem/
His Muslim girlfriend yanked that leash HARD! Kaepernick might be working out like a demon to get in football shape, but as long as he's dating her, stirring up trouble, and riling football fans, he's pissing in his own wheaties.

But hey, I'm sure his next gig as a club bouncer will really make all that practice worthwhile!
16   justme   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 8, 10:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Here is the real question: Does an employer (NFL) have the right to demand that its employees (Football players) must agree with the employer's (or their customers) political views? Does an employer therefor have the right to demand that their employees stand for the national anthem, rather than kneel in respect for the national anthem?

I think employers should have no such right, whether NFL or McDonalds or any other employer. The NFL player's union should take this case to the supreme court, and get a ruling that NO employer may demand from its employees that they express a certain form of political opinion. That way, the deranged fans that demand political submission from their teams/players/employees would be seen for what they are: Intolerant bullies.
17   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 8, 11:11pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says
He was late for a savage ASS! FUCKING! by Putin's viscount, a guy from Kazakhstan with no eyes who is led around by a rabid basset hound named Guldana that shows up every afternoon to sodomize Pence and remind him who is in charge.

Pence only left because after all the savage sodomizing, he couldn't completely stand up for the anthem, either.
18   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Oct 8, 11:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

OK! CLASS! Sit down,shut your mouths & pay attention.
A man kneels when proposing to a woman,out of respect & honor..
Kneeling is sign of respect in religions.Catholics genuflect
When one is knighted by a Monarch.

"The custom of genuflecting, as a sign of respect and even of service, arose out of the honor given to medieval kings. In modern times, when the folded flag of a fallen veteran is offered to the family, the presenting officer will go down on his left knee, if the recipient is seated."

Fuck Mike Pence & any Republican that think they are to good to kneel before our country,flag & anthem.
It's their ego that keeps them from kneeling or they just too lazy to make the effort.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genuflection
It's a sad state of affairs when people pay big bucks to watch grown ass men play a game & get paid more than minimum wage.Shallow minds have to be entertained.
19   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Oct 8, 11:42pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

How many Republican stayed & watched the game?
How many groups of Rep/Con/Nazis at homes didn't stand in silence for the National Anthem?
Hypocritical Loser America Haters!
20   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (26)   2017 Oct 9, 12:31am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

The proper way to salute the flag is with right arm outstretched or used to pound the supplicant's chest while shrieking SIEG! HEIL! until blood pours from his eyes.

Alternatively the supplicant can fire a belt-fed weapon into the sky while shrieking SIEG! HEIL! until blood comes out of his eyes.
21   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (26)   2017 Oct 9, 1:12am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

A real fucking patriot would have just picked off the offensive negro traitors with sometime loud and beltfed, exactly as the Founding Fathers intended.

It's quite obvious Pence was late for his daily Kazakh salute.
22   komputodo   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 7:29am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

justme says
The NFL player's union should take this case to the supreme court, and get a ruling that NO employer may demand from its employees that they express a certain form of political opinion. That way, the deranged fans that demand political submission from their teams/players/employees would be seen for what they are: Intolerant bullies.


So you're of the opinion that if the supreme court rules that it's ok for the players to protest like they are doing, the fans that are now against it will return and all will be well again?
24   iwog   ignore (3)   2017 Oct 9, 7:58am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Politicians shouldn't walk out of an event where the performers are insulting the Flag and Anthem?


That's your forced interpretation and not what the players are thinking. You're no better than any other offended special snowflake and neither is Pence.
25   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 9, 8:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

komputodo says
justme says
The NFL player's union should take this case to the supreme court, and get a ruling that NO employer may demand from its employees that they express a certain form of political opinion. That way, the deranged fans that demand political submission from their teams/players/employees would be seen for what they are: Intolerant bullies.


So you're of the opinion that if the supreme court rules that it's ok for the players to protest like they are doing, the fans that are now against it will return and all will be well again?


Did any fans actually leave?
26   BlueSardine   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 9, 8:24am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

This would be true whether he knelt or not
zzyzzx says
27   BlueSardine   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 9, 8:24am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

If you can only hit 20% of your 5 yd passes then you generally suck
28   TwoScoopsPlissken   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 8:34am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says
That's your forced interpretation and not what the players are thinking. You're no better than any other offended special snowflake and neither is Pence.


Not at all. Pence is a representative of the United States Government. The symbols being disrespected are symbols of that Government. It's perfectly reasonable for him to leave.

It's normal in sports to fine teams for disrespecting anthems -- Even if their FANS are the instigators and not the Players.

Russian players fined for leaving IHF game during anthem:
https://www.nhl.com/news/russia-fined-85000-for-leaving-ice-before-canadas-anthem-at-hockey-worlds-ceremony/c-777380
Barcelona FC fined for FANs disrespecting the anthem
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/28/barcelona-athletic-bilbao-fined-booing-anthem
Hong Kong Football Group fined by FIFA for FANs disrespecting Chinese Anthem.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-34451286
Again, NFL Football Players are routinely fined for wearing Breast Cancer Eyeblack, Dancing in the Endzone, Flipping the Bird, Saying "Dammit" once in an interview, wearing unauthorized 9/11 Remembrance Gear, etc.

The kneeling for the national anthem and flag, however, isn't punished.

Is Flipping the Bird free speech? How about "Dammit"?
29   TwoScoopsPlissken   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 8:39am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

justme says
Here is the real question: Does an employer (NFL) have the right to demand that its employees (Football players) must agree with the employer's (or their customers) political views? Does an employer therefor have the right to demand that their employees stand for the national anthem, rather than kneel in respect for the national anthem?


Should a McDonald's employee be fined, suspended, or fired for wearing an "I love ISIS" button right next to her "Double Bacon for 39 Cents!" button?

Should an Actor be let go from an Winnebago's ad campaign after tweeting "Fuck the US Army, Oppressor of Filipinos!"

Can a waitress be fired from Bob's Big Boy for chanting "Meat is Murder" as she places hamburgers in front of customers?

Many of the same people saying "NFL player have the right to kneel!" were the same ones wringing their hands about Tebow praying in the End Zone, worried that Football was "Endorsing Religion".

Tebow is the reason the NFL banned messages on Eyeblacks.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/sports/football/in-tebow-debate-a-clash-of-faith-and-football.html

I think you should have Freedom of Speech everywhere. But that has to apply to working class people as well, not just pampered athletic millionaires.
30   justme   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 9:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

komputodo says
So you're of the opinion that if the supreme court rules that it's ok for the players to protest like they are doing, the fans that are now against it will return and all will be well again?


Just making up shit, are we? I did not say anything about the fans. Fans may or may not choose to attend or watch. But if SCOTUS rules that players cannot be forced to express their respect for the national anthem in a certain way, perhaps all these fans will back down and let the players choose their own expression of respect.

And if the fans do not approve, one might ask the appropriate question: Why do so many NFL fans hate the constitution? Why do so many NFL fans hate freedom?
31   bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 9, 9:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsMcGee says
The kneeling for the national anthem and flag, however, isn't punished.


That means the owners agree with the players. They can fire players for not representing the company just like any other employer. Free speech doesn't apply to private employment. Never has. .

TwoScoopsMcGee says

I think you should have Freedom of Speech everywhere.


The supreme court disagrees with you. Maybe you should bring it to their attention.
32   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 9, 9:11am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

I think you should have Freedom of Speech everywhere. But that has to apply to working class people as well, not just pampered athletic millionaires.

——————

So then what exactly is your gripe?

Or do you even know anymore?

All Great Americans should be protesting Pence for attempting to subvert our Constitution and The Flag by mixing religion with politics.

Quit your SJWing, it’s pathetic
33   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 9, 9:31am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

It’s nice to see that pretty much all Americans disapprove of the Trump/Pence GOP stunt.

Those idiots thought that they would draw support for this publicity stunt, where they attempt to harm Americans and our economy. Not today, Failed Losers! Take that crap to North Korea where it belongs.
34   TwoScoopsPlissken   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 9:35am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

errc says


So then what exactly is your gripe?

Or do you even know anymore?


Do you think a McDonald's Cashier who tells each customer: "Thank You, and think about all the cows you murdered!" is not going to be fired?
35   justme   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 9:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Does freedom of speech include the right not to speak? I think so.

Does the constitution therefore disallow employers from compelling employees to speak or express certain political views? Again, I think so.

These are serious questions, and should be taken seriously. Freedom is not, and should not be, a popularity contest.
36   justme   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 9:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

me123 says
So your employer would be OK with you hanging ISIS flags and Antifa flags all over where his paying customers will see them?


No, you disingenuous dumbass. We are talking about the right of employees not to have to be compelled to express the political views of their employers.
37   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 9, 9:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

TwoScoopsMcGee says
errc says


So then what exactly is your gripe?

Or do you even know anymore?


Do you think a McDonald's Cashier who tells each customer: "Thank You, and think about all the cows you murdered!" is not going to be fired?


That’s up to McDonalds. I’m thinking that the manager would have a talk with them, and if it continued, they would be let go.

Now answer my question
38   justme   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 9:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

me123 says
So your employer would be OK with you hanging ISIS flags and Antifa flags all over where his paying customers will see them?


No, you disingenous person. We are talking about the right of employees not to have to be compelled to express the political views of their employers.

(move to paraphrase, your honor. Someone thought my response was uncivil, apparently)
39   justme   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 10:01am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

@Patrick, waah my comments are disappearing and I can't even find them in the uncivil comment jail. What up with that?

UPDATE: I just discovered that when I add a comment on a page that is full, then the comment will spill to the next page, BUT refresh does not get me to the new page. That might also be a bug, I have never experienced that before.
40   Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 9, 10:06am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Thanks for telling me! Did you get an email saying it was marked uncivil?

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