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If patients could get out of bed on their own, they did, she said. “If not, we grabbed people from their beds and put them in wheelchairs.”The fire came perilously close to Kaiser Santa Rosa medical center and its huge liquid oxygen and diesel tanks. Firefighters weren’t sure they could stave off the blaze that was engulfing the adjacent mobile home park called “Journey’s End,” she said.
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I'm too lazy to look it up, but is there some sort of exterior fire suppressant system that could have stopped this in this type of neighborhood? Seems like there would be something you could do. Couldn't be connected with the city's water supply as it would likely cause a massive drop in pressure for a system like that to be effective I suppose. Just feels a bit ridiculous that an entire neighborhood could be burned like this. This is late 1800's Chicago fire type shit. Seems like it shouldn't happen with today's technology.
Was looking for something to protect a cabin years ago, they make spray foams and gels that work pretty well and some can be sprayed up to 48hrs before fire.
I wonder if stone buildings with metal roofs and metal shutters would've survived this type of event.
They need to be earthquake-proof as well. So maybe not brick and tile.
Why so many fires at the same time across the state?
Fires in Santa Rosa and Napa
Climate change makes wet seasons wetter and hot seasons hotter—which builds fuel. “Based on analysis using climate model projections, the frequency of Santa Ana events is uncertain,” Jin says. “But all the models agree that the intensity of Santa Ana events is going to be much stronger.”Models say the same thing about sea level rise and hurricanes. A continent away from the fires in California, cities along the Gulf of Mexico and in the Caribbean have been battered by tropical cyclones, one after the other. This year, ocean water heated by a warming climate, unusually wet weather, and a lack of the vertical wind shear that can tame a big storm combined to produce an anomalous season. It has already been a fire season and a hurricane season that are, as researchers say, consistent with models of a changing climate.
Big deadly fires are nothing new to California, particularly during fire season when the Santa Ana or Diablo winds blow hot and dry, making tinder out of trees and bushes that have been baking all summer long.But the firestorm now raging through Northern California isn’t the typical wildfire. For one thing, it’s not just one fire but close to two dozen. For another, these fires are not only threatening hard-to-reach rural or mountains area, but they also have torn through suburban neighborhoods. This is not just bad luck. Coming on the heels of other large-scale natural disasters — Houston inundated by a slow-moving tropical storm, swaths of Florida and the Caribbean ripped to shreds by a monster hurricane, much of Puerto Rico leveled by an equally powerful hurricane, a handful of Western states swept by massive fires that burned up millions of acres — one can’t help but see a disturbing pattern emerge. Those superstorms that scientists warned would result from climate change? They are here. The day of reckoning isn’t in the future. It is now.All of those factors are exacerbated by the warming world. Hotter summers yield more fuel for fires and stronger winds to fan the flames. And this summer was California’s hottest on record, a milestone dramatically illustrated when San Francisco hit 106 degrees on Sept. 1 during a statewide heat wave.Similarly, scientists say climate change doesn’t cause hurricanes, but it can make them bigger and more destructive. Higher air temperatures mean more evaporation and heavier rains outside of drought zones, and warmer seas intensify the size and fury of the storms themselves. It’s a double whammy that has contributed to an unusually severe hurricane season this year.
In cold weather, there are no SJWs or IHLs.
Is this arson or what?How do you explain so many fires so far apart?
Ceffer says In cold weather, there are no SJWs or IHLs.You've obviously never been to Boston.
But the larger cost is estimated at $65 billion in residential property alone.
Climate change is an economy killer.
The economy will reap the benefit of 65 billion worth of new housing construction, not to mention commercial rebuilding and unemployment dropping due to massive reconstruction effort.Dan8267 saysBut the larger cost is estimated at $65 billion in residential property alone. Dan8267 says Climate change is an economy killer.
but if these events are indeed from global warming, they're very likely to have a positive impact on GDP. Three hurricanes, two hit US states and two ravaged multiple US territories. Massive property loss from fires in the West. 2017 Q4 with the holidays and all this rebuilding could be a big number.
Correct. I bet the insurance companies hate it, but if these events are indeed from global warming, they're very likely to have a positive impact on GDP.
Replacing destroyed goods does not increase the wealth of a society.
Why is it every thread turns into climate change?
So if I break the windows in everyone's houses, the GDP goes up?
Replacing destroyed goods does not increase the wealth of a society. It does not even maintain the wealth of the society because of the Second Law of Thermodynamics. No, breaking a window and replacing it, burning a house and building a new one, getting cancer and curing it results in a net loss of wealth to society.
It's not magic. It's arithmetic.
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