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Police shooting deaths: 80 percent threatened cops

By me123 following x   2017 Oct 10, 11:39am 287 views   46 comments   watch   quote     share  

Nearly all of the 58 people shot and killed by New Jersey police in the last decade died while attacking officers, with many committing "suicide by cop," a review of once-secret police records show.

The USA Today Network/New Jersey examined more than 200 police shooting incidents since 2010. In nearly three of four cases, a subject was either injured or killed. The shots were fired by 228 officers, with 14 — including an immigration officer — injuring more than one person over the last eight years.

In 79 percent of the fatal shootings, the suspect brandished a gun or knife or used it to shoot at or attack responding officers, according to the reports.

Of the 58 people killed by police from 2010 through August 2017, the reports stated that:

21 brandished, pointed or grabbed for a gun
13 brandished or attacked with a knife
12 shot at police officers
4 attacked officers with a car
4 physically attacked officers
3 attacked officers with a blunt object
1 prisoner tried to escape custody

Half of all subjects killed by police were black. White people made up 36 percent of all fatal police shootings, while 14 percent of those killed were Hispanic.

(How does 6% of the population (black males) make up 50% killed by cops? Those cops must all be racists.)



http://www.app.com/story/news/local/public-safety/2017/10/09/nj-officer-police-shooting-deaths-suicide-accidental-use-of-force/739388001/

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1 NuttBoxer   2017 Oct 10, 11:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
I hear the latest chemical weapon used against police is apple cider vinegar. Those brave boys in blue!

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2017/10/05/st-louis-county-police-finally-admit-apple-cider-vinegar-is-apple-cider-vinegar
2 errc   2017 Oct 10, 11:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
So says the murderous cops. Funny how you just take them at their word, one can only hope for your comeuppance
3 Goran_K   2017 Oct 10, 12:04pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
errc says
So says the murderous cops. Funny how you just take them at their word, one can only hope for your comeuppance


Wow you're hoping that he's the victim of a police shooting just because you disagree with his data?

You're a sick individual.
4 errc   2017 Oct 10, 12:07pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Goran_K says
errc says
So says the murderous cops. Funny how you just take them at their word, one can only hope for your comeuppance


Wow you're hoping that he's the victim of a police shooting just because you disagree with his data?

You're a sick individual.


Comeuppance is a negative outcome which is JUSTLY deserved

I root for everyone to get their comeuppance. It’s the purest form of justice.
5 me123   2017 Oct 10, 1:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Goran_K says
errc says
So says the murderous cops. Funny how you just take them at their word, one can only hope for your comeuppance


Wow you're hoping that he's the victim of a police shooting just because you disagree with his data?


Liberal tolerance at it's best.
6 Goran_K   2017 Oct 10, 1:14pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
errc says
Comeuppance is a negative outcome which is JUSTLY deserved

I root for everyone to get their comeuppance. It’s the purest form of justice.


Sure, but you said "one can only hope for your comeuppance". You're literally hoping for someone to be the victim of a police shooting or violence.

That's sad that you are so indoctrinated by leftist ideals and dogma that you wish harm upon someone you don't even know. As much as I think Iwog is a total clown, I would never wish for harm to come upon him or his family. I actually hope Iwog is doing alright as the King of Concord.

You should really rethink what you said and how it reflects upon you as a human being.
7 errc   2017 Oct 10, 1:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
I have a zero tolerance policy for anti-American morons
8 Goran_K   2017 Oct 10, 1:18pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
errc says
I have a zero tolerance policy for anti-American morons


Pointing out data gathered by the FBI/CDC/NIH is anti-american?

Blacks commit 50% of the violent crime in the United States and only represent 13% of the population. I find it hard to believe that all of the black people dying by a policeman's gun are completely innocent. You don't believe that do you? Did Michael Brown really have his hands up?

Use common sense man.
9 errc   2017 Oct 10, 1:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Common Sense, from any true American, is that even one innocent person dying at the hands of cowardly police officers, is one too many.

Do you agree that Police Officers should be acting in fear?
10 errc   2017 Oct 10, 1:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Goran_K says
errc says
Comeuppance is a negative outcome which is JUSTLY deserved

I root for everyone to get their comeuppance. It’s the purest form of justice.


Sure, but you said "one can only hope for your comeuppance". You're literally hoping for someone to be the victim of a police shooting or violence.

That's sad that you are so indoctrinated by leftist ideals and dogma that you wish harm upon someone you don't even know. As much as I think Iwog is a total clown, I would never wish for harm to come upon him or his family. I actually hope Iwog is doing alright as the King of Concord.

You should really rethink what you said and how it reflects upon you as a human being.


It makes me a Great American, to stand up against what’s wrong, while the rest of you sit by idly.

Maybe you don’t understand the definition of comeuppance?
11 Goran_K   2017 Oct 10, 1:26pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
errc says
Common Sense, from any true American, is that even one innocent person dying at the hands of cowardly police officers, is one too many.

Do you agree that Police Officers should be acting in fear?


Can you blame them? Have you stepped into the shoes of a law enforcement office during a stop?

Did you see what happened when an anti-police BLM activist tried to be a cop for a day?


The fact is, if you are not resisting arrest, and compliant during a stop, your chances of being shot to death by a police officer are less than 1% of 1% (literally).
12 errc   2017 Oct 10, 1:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
That's sad that you are so indoctrinated by leftist ideals and dogma

—————-

Hahahahahahahaha that’s the funniest crap I’ve heard in a long time.

How on Earth could I ever have been indoctrinated by leftist ideals and dogma?

Where would I even ever of had a chance to be subjected to it?
13 Goran_K   2017 Oct 10, 1:28pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
errc says
Hahahahahahahaha that’s the funniest crap I’ve heard in a long time.

How on Earth could I ever have been indoctrinated by leftist ideals and dogma?

Where would I even ever of had a chance to be subjected to it?




So when did you decide that police violence against innocent people was a big huge deal? You certainly didn't learn that by yourself since you don't care about the actual statistics.
14 errc   2017 Oct 10, 1:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Goran_K says
errc says
Hahahahahahahaha that’s the funniest crap I’ve heard in a long time.

How on Earth could I ever have been indoctrinated by leftist ideals and dogma?

Where would I even ever of had a chance to be subjected to it?




So when did you decide that police violence against innocent people was a big huge deal? You certainly didn't learn that by yourself since you don't care about the actual statistics.


From real world experience.

A kid from my neighborhood was beaten to death by police in the middle of a city street in broad daylight. And countless other instances.

Like I said, even one instance is one too many, for any Real American who cares about Freedom.

What conclusion do you think people draw from these posted “statistics”?

You do understand that the study says that this is “according to the police who committed the murders”, right? How would this pan out if we heard both sides of the story?
15 Goran_K   2017 Oct 10, 1:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
errc says
From real world experience.

A kid from my neighborhood was beaten to death by police in the middle of a city street in broad daylight. And countless other instances.

Like I said, even one instance is one too many, for any Real American who cares about Freedom.

What conclusion do you think people draw from these posted “statistics”?

You do understand that the study says that this is “according to the police who committed the murders”, right? How would this pan out if we heard both sides of the story?


Okay, so you have one anecdotal incident. Do you have any other accounts of what happened besides yourself?
16 errc   2017 Oct 10, 1:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Speaking of being indoctrinated, where did you learn to always trust the police at their word, every single time they are lying to cover up their crimes?
17 Goran_K   2017 Oct 10, 2:34pm   ↑ like (4)   ↑ dislike (4)     quote        
errc says
Speaking of being indoctrinated, where did you learn to always trust the police at their word, every single time they are lying to cover up their crimes?


Who says that I trust all police at their word?

There are obvious pigs out there who break the law, but you have to show me where the wrong doing is, not just presume it's there every time.

Like with Michael Brown, the entire BLM narrative around his death was fabricated and made up. CNN was reporting Brown was shot in the back. I waited for the facts. The coroner released a report that showed based on Brown's wounds, he couldn't have been shot in the back running away. Those are FACTS. You look at the facts and decide "Well it looks like Brown was the aggressor and the officer defended himself."

Basic statistical sampling shows us that even with a margin of error those who resist arrest are going to get shot a lot more than those who are compliant. Plus it's just common sense.

Are you really trying to argue that this is not the reality of how the world works? That's the very essence of indoctrination.
18 socal2   2017 Oct 10, 3:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Goran_K says
Like with Michael Brown, the entire BLM narrative around his death was fabricated and made up. CNN was reporting Brown was shot in the back. I waited for the facts. The coroner released a report that showed based on Brown's wounds, he couldn't have been shot in the back running away. Those are FACTS. You look at the facts and decide "Well it looks like Brown was the aggressor and the officer defended himself."


Pretty much the entire BLM movement sprang up from this fake story.

"*Hands up, don't shoot' ranked one of biggest 'Pinocchios' of 2015*"
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/hands-up-dont-shoot-false-216736
19 me123   2017 Oct 10, 3:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
errc says
How on Earth could I ever have been indoctrinated by leftist ideals and dogma?

Where would I even ever of had a chance to be subjected to it?


You live in Philadelphia.
20 me123   2017 Oct 10, 3:08pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
Goran_K says
errc says
From real world experience.

A kid from my neighborhood was beaten to death by police in the middle of a city street in broad daylight. And countless other instances.

Like I said, even one instance is one too many, for any Real American who cares about Freedom.

What conclusion do you think people draw from these posted “statistics”?

You do understand that the study says that this is “according to the police who committed the murders”, right? How would this pan out if we heard both sides of the story?


Okay, so you have one anecdotal incident. Do you have any other accounts of what happened besides yourself?


He's just like Dan, who focuses on the "needle" instead of the "haystack". These two pick out ONE instance and yell, "see ALL cops are criminals, there's your proof".
21 errc   2017 Oct 10, 3:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
me123 says
errc says
How on Earth could I ever have been indoctrinated by leftist ideals and dogma?

Where would I even ever of had a chance to be subjected to it?


You live in Philadelphia.


Wrong. Are you ever right about anything?
22 errc   2017 Oct 10, 3:13pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
me123 says
Goran_K says
errc says
From real world experience.

A kid from my neighborhood was beaten to death by police in the middle of a city street in broad daylight. And countless other instances.

Like I said, even one instance is one too many, for any Real American who cares about Freedom.

What conclusion do you think people draw from these posted “statistics”?

You do understand that the study says that this is “according to the police who committed the murders”, right? How would this pan out if we heard both sides of the story?


Okay, so you have one anecdotal incident. Do you have any other accounts of what happened besides yourself?


He's just like Dan, who focuses on the "needle" instead of the "haystack". These two pick out ONE instance and yell, "see ALL cops are criminals, there's your proof".


What is your acceptable number of innocent Americans to be shot by police?

Mine is zero
23 me123   2017 Oct 10, 3:21pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
errc says
What is your acceptable number of innocent Americans to be shot by police?


You seriously have reading comprehension issues. PUT DOWN THE BONG!!

me123 says
In 79 percent of the fatal shootings, the suspect brandished a gun or knife or used it to shoot at or attack responding officers, according to the reports.


Should the cops serve these guys pizza instead of defending themselves?
24 errc   2017 Oct 10, 3:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
me123 says
errc says
What is your acceptable number of innocent Americans to be shot by police?


You seriously have reading comprehension issues. PUT DOWN THE BONG!!

me123 says
In 79 percent of the fatal shootings, the suspect brandished a gun or knife or used it to shoot at or attack responding officers, according to the reports.


Should the cops serve these guys pizza instead of defending themselves?


According to the cops who are committing the crimes, aka criminals.

Who is watching the watchmen?
25 Goran_K   2017 Oct 10, 4:10pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
errc says
According to the cops who are committing the crimes, aka criminals.

Who is watching the watchmen?


Who is watching the 50 black males who are killed by other black males in Chicago every month?

Certainly isn't BLM, or any of the other anti-police protesters who cried over Michael Brown.
26 Dan8267   2017 Oct 11, 1:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
me123 says
Police shooting deaths: 80 percent threatened cops


If 80 percent of the people I killed had threatened me, then I'd be arrested and prosecuted for the 20% that I murdered who didn't.

me123 says

He's just like Dan, who focuses on the "needle" instead of the "haystack". These two pick out ONE instance and yell, "see ALL cops are criminals, there's your proof".


20% is a needle in a haystack?

Furthermore, I never said ALL cops are criminals. I said the majority of cops are criminals when you could the cops who cover up and protect cops committing other crimes. And yes, aiding and abating a felony is a crime. Obstruction of justice is a crime. Perjury is a crime.

Since your entire counter-argument is that I'm claiming there isn't a single exception is false, you have no case at all.

Finally, let me put this in terms that even Call It Crazy will understand.

27 Dan8267   2017 Oct 11, 1:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
errc says
What is your acceptable number of innocent Americans to be shot by police?

Mine is zero


That's not even what the outrage is about. First, people aren't outraged about the cops shooting the occasional innocent person. They are outrage about cops targeting innocent persons. They are outraged at other cops witnessing that and instead of arresting the criminal cop helping that cop commit the crime by preventing others from stopping the crime. And they are outraged at the cops tampering with evidence, planting false evidence, committing perjury, obstructing justice, covering up crimes of other cops, and having zero remorse for all these crimes. Finally, they are outraged over the courts refusing to prosecute such criminal cops.

If every cop who committed an unlawful murder was prosecuted like any citizen Joe, then there would be no outrage. Grief yes, but no outrage. The only thing that is analogous to the tolerant of criminal cops would be if the courts and police refuse to arrest or prosecute black men who raped and murdered your daughter because, well, it's hard being a black man. If that happened time and time again every single day of the year for over a century, then it would be like the blue wall of silence. So anyone who isn't outraged over the lack of prosecution of these crimes even when the evidence is indisputable is a fucking racist who deserves zero respect.

Furthermore, the only way to protect your rights and the lives of your loved ones is to protect everyone else. Your white skin won't keep your daughter from being raped during a traffic stop. By the time she has a cop's finger up her ass and vagina -- perfectly legal rape -- it will be too late to complain. That is why you must not tolerate today's crimes. There is NO excuse for not prosecuting criminals regardless of how funny they dress. There is NO argument in favor of the status quo. But hey, prove me wrong. Prove to me that your daughter's rape and the lack of prosecution of her rapist is justified for any reason. Go on. This is not a rhetorical question.

I don't care how fucking rare you think rape or murder is. We don't prosecute rape and murder because they are common. We prosecute them because they are horrific harms.
28 me123   2017 Oct 11, 2:00pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Dan8267 says
If 80 percent of the people


Dan8267 says
20% is a needle in a haystack?


Seriously, you need to go back to 3rd grade and learn math.

me123 says
Nearly all of the 58 people shot and killed by New Jersey police in the last decade died while attacking officers, with many committing "suicide by cop," a review of once-secret police records show.


me123 says
Of the 58 people killed by police from 2010 through August 2017, the reports stated that:

21 brandished, pointed or grabbed for a gun
13 brandished or attacked with a knife
12 shot at police officers
4 attacked officers with a car
4 physically attacked officers
3 attacked officers with a blunt object
1 prisoner tried to escape custody


Where does that compute to 20%?

You can stop making yourself from looking like a total asshole by learning reading comprehension and math.
29 Strategist   2017 Oct 11, 5:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
errc says
Do you agree that Police Officers should be acting in fear?


Fear is a human instinct, which we can't get rid of. If you were a police officer put in a life or death situation, I'm sure you would have shot the criminal.
30 Strategist   2017 Oct 11, 5:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Dan8267 says
That's not even what the outrage is about. First, people aren't outraged about the cops shooting the occasional innocent person. They are outrage about cops targeting innocent persons.


I don't believe cops go around targeting innocent people. The bad cops who do, get prosecuted. They even get prosecuted for using bad judgement.
31 Dan8267   2017 Oct 11, 5:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
me123 says
Dan8267 says
If 80 percent of the people


Dan8267 says
20% is a needle in a haystack?


Seriously, you need to go back to 3rd grade and learn math.


Wow, you are really trying to argue that 100% minus 80% isn't 20%?

Need I remind you that your claim in the title of the original post is

me123 says
Police shooting deaths: 80 percent threatened cops


If you are wrong, then you need to learn how to do math.
32 HEY YOU   2017 Oct 11, 5:57pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
As long as police kill Republican voters,I have no problem.
33 socal2   2017 Oct 11, 6:09pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Dan8267 says
hat's not even what the outrage is about. First, people aren't outraged about the cops shooting the occasional innocent person. They are outrage about cops targeting innocent persons. They are outraged at other cops witnessing that and instead of arresting the criminal cop helping that cop commit the crime by preventing others from stopping the crime. And they are outraged at the cops tampering with evidence, planting false evidence, committing perjury, obstructing justice, covering up crimes of other cops, and having zero remorse for all these crimes. Finally, they are outraged over the courts refusing to prosecute such criminal cops.


Got it.

So this isn't a race thing? It's a bad cop thing.

Then what is up with the whole BLM movement, tearing down statues and kneeling at football games all about?
34 me123   2017 Oct 11, 7:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Dan8267 says
Need I remind you that your claim in the title of the original post is

me123 says
Police shooting deaths: 80 percent threatened cops


If you are wrong, then you need to learn how to do math.


Seriously?? Now we know you have MAJOR reading comprehension issues:

me123 says
In 79 percent of the fatal shootings, the suspect brandished a gun or knife or used it to shoot at or attack responding officers, according to the reports.


Is it that difficult for you to read past the thread title?
35 Goran_K   2017 Oct 11, 7:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
HEY YOU says
As long as police kill Republican voters,I have no problem.


At least you’re honest, now you should convince your team to stop hiding behind fake human decency. We all know the left has none.
36 Strategist   2017 Oct 11, 7:33pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Dan8267 says


Criminals are 100% poison. I think we would need a bigger bowl to accomodate all the criminals. A bowl large enough for 10 million criminals. I would flush it all down the toilet.
37 Dan8267   2017 Oct 11, 11:58pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
socal2 says
So this isn't a race thing? It's a bad cop thing.


Those aren't mutually exclusive. There is hard core evidence that many cops have targeted innocent blacks for assault and murder. I'm talking video evidence of the cops stating their plans before going out and committing their crimes. To deny that racism isn't a part of this problem would be dishonest.
38 Dan8267   2017 Oct 11, 11:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
me123 says
me123 says
In 79 percent of the fatal shootings, the suspect brandished a gun or knife or used it to shoot at or attack responding officers, according to the reports.


Is it that difficult for you to read past the thread title?


Not at all.

me123 says
Police shooting deaths: 80 percent threatened cops


You clearly don't even believe what you wrote, so why should anyone else?
39 Dan8267   2017 Oct 11, 11:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Strategist says
Criminals are 100% poison. I think we would need a bigger bowl to accomodate all the criminals. A bowl large enough for 10 million criminals. I would flush it all down the toilet.


Sure, as long as you include the criminal cops.
40 APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   2017 Oct 12, 2:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Pre-pensioners have a right to be entertained before they start drawing their pensions.

Sometimes that includes shooting suspects in the face and having a smoke and watching them die.

Freedom has its costs.

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