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Now Democrats have a Russia problem


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2017 Oct 24, 1:45pm   7,527 views  64 comments

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Lefty cheers for Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in US politics may soon fade now that he’s reportedly looking into a top Democratic lobbyist.

NBC reports that Tony Podesta (the brother of Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta) and his firm are the subjects of a criminal investigation by the special prosecutor.

Team Hillary has long denied that she was a target of the spy ring, but an FBI source told The Hill: “There is not one shred of doubt from the evidence that we had that the Russians had set their sights on Clinton’s inner circle.”

All this, of course, follows reports the Obama administration knew Russia was engaged in a campaign of bribery and extortion — yet allowed a deal to go through giving Moscow control of one-fifth of America’s uranium.

Yes, there’s something to investigate here. But it goes way beyond Donald Trump.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/23/now-democrats-have-a-russia-problem/

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1   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 24, 2:02pm  

Who are the sources. No names = FAKE NEWS
2   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Oct 24, 2:45pm  

joeyjojojunior says
Who are the sources


Official Filings, such as the Podesta Group's restatement of money they got from the same client as Manafort. Very suspicious!

Also, there will be Uranium One hearings in Congress.

You wanted to talk about Russian Influence, you got it! Enjoy!
3   Tenpoundbass   2017 Oct 24, 3:55pm  

Trump is like every likable French character in any tolerable French movie ever made in the 90's. His Serendipitous happenstance of issuing comeuppance to his political foes and rivals while appearing as an incompetent interloper. Are you not Entertained?
4   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 24, 4:37pm  

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Official Filings, such as the Podesta Group's restatement of money they got from the same client as Manafort. Very suspicious!


And how do those official filings implicate the Dems?

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Also, there will be Uranium One hearings in Congress.

You wanted to talk about Russian Influence, you got it! Enjoy!


Unlike you guys, I'm all for finding the truth and getting to the bottom of Russian influence, wherever it may lead.
5   bob2356   2017 Oct 24, 5:05pm  

me123 says
NBC reports that Tony Podesta (the brother of Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta) and his firm are the subjects of a criminal investigation by the special prosecutor.


That's some weak shit. Clintons campaign managers brother's lobbying firm? WTF?

With any luck maybe Podesta (the one that had nothing to do with clinton) and Manafort can share a cell. Put them all in jail. They knew they were supposed to register before stuffing their pockets with foreign money.
6   WookieMan   2017 Oct 24, 5:18pm  

You guys (everyone that's posted so far) sure do like beating a dead horse. The back and forth on these topics daily is the same thing over and over. I mentioned it in another thread. There's the OP and then it's in the gutter one comment in. As someone that's not going to get involved in these threads (most of the time), no one is really providing much convincing evidence or information 80-90% of the time. It's really who can piss on the other person the longest in that particular thread. You all have some terrific bladders, that's for sure. Kudos.
7   anonymous   2017 Oct 24, 5:45pm  

Someone please create a thread:

"Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier" by WaPo. I can't link as Anon.

So, if FISA warrant was granted based on DNC "research" (smear) then Obama admin ought to be in deep shit trouble.
8   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 24, 5:50pm  

anonymous says
"Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier" by WaPo. I can't link as Anon.

So, if FISA warrant was granted based on DNC "research" (smear) then Obama admin ought to be in deep shit trouble.


FISA warrants are not granted by the President or his administration. That is done on purpose-the whole point of FISA is to create a check and balance against government intrusion.

If a warrant was issued, it means there was other evidence that corroborated the dossier. Which stands to reason as we know most of it has already been independently confirmed.
10   anonymous   2017 Oct 24, 6:05pm  

Joey you're employer is corrupt as fuck. You shouldn't actually be able to get sleep at night, but somehow you do.
11   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 24, 6:08pm  

anonymous says
Joey you're employer is corrupt as fuck. You shouldn't actually be able to get sleep at night, but somehow you do.


How is paying for opposition research corrupt? Pretty sure every Presidential campaign does this.

You can try to spin it, but this is a big nothingburger.
12   WookieMan   2017 Oct 24, 6:08pm  

anonymous says
I can't link as Anon.

Then start an account and you can start posts. Protonmail.com Get an email address there. Use a VPN. If anonymity was important, you would have these things already.
13   anonymous   2017 Oct 24, 6:12pm  

So Trump campaign can fabricate a dossier in 2020 and then be able to wiretap his opponent? Cool beans.
14   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 24, 6:23pm  

anonymous says
So Trump campaign can fabricate a dossier in 2020 and then be able to wiretap his opponent? Cool beans.


Nope. But they can pay for opposition research that provides evidence of a potential crime, get independent confirmation from the US intelligence services, present said evidence in front of the FISA court, and if the evidence is compelling enough to convince a judge, then they can get a wiretap against the suspect in question.
15   HEY YOU   2017 Oct 24, 6:33pm  

joeyjojojunior says
Unlike you guys, I'm all for finding the truth and getting to the bottom of Russian influence, wherever it may lead.

Only if it leads to hanging.

me123 says
We need to name these two "The TROLL Brothers".


patrick.net's new name: "The TROLL CLAN".
16   anonymous   2017 Oct 24, 6:34pm  

That piece of garbage was never verified, but it was used a tool (hey, just like you Joey) by Comey and Lynch to convince FISA to grant the warrant.
17   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 24, 6:36pm  

anonymous says
That piece of garbage was never verified, but it was used a tool (hey, just like you Joey) by Comey and Lynch to convince FISA to grant the warrant.


Actually most of it has been verified. I have posted the links on pat.net several times.
18   MrMagic   2017 Oct 24, 6:40pm  

joeyjojojunior says
How is paying for opposition research corrupt?


Opposition research or making up fake shit on an opponent?
19   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 24, 6:41pm  

me123 says

Opposition research or making up fake shit on an opponent?


Well, since most of it has been independently verified, clearly it's oppo research.
22   mell   2017 Oct 24, 7:40pm  

Handcuffs at last! MAGA!
23   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 24, 8:01pm  

me123 says

Notice how Dems/Liberals like to accuse others of EXACTLY what they were guilty of. How long have we heard the Russia, Russia, Russia from certain posters here? Talk about having something blow up in your face!


lol--it was and still may be Russia. How did anything blow up in anyone's face?
24   MrMagic   2017 Oct 24, 9:39pm  

joeyjojojunior says
lol--it was and still may be Russia.


Yep, just with a DIFFERENT political party.


joeyjojojunior says
How did anything blow up in anyone's face?


Clueless. LoL


25   anonymous   2017 Oct 24, 9:54pm  

The dossier was 100% unverified and absolutely considered salacious. So when the FBI Director and Attorney General get some "intelligence folks" to corroborate "parts of the raw intel gathering" as sufficient to convince (reasonable people realize that the fucking FBI Director and Attorney General pushing this through is as politicized and forced as it gets) a FISA judge (these hearings are not held before the public) to issue a warrant to spy on an opposing presidential campaign, candidate, and then president elect - we've hit rock bottom as a democracy.

Congrats, DNC!
26   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Oct 24, 10:45pm  

joeyjojojunior says
How did anything blow up in anyone's face?



Mueller Now Investigating Democratic Lobbyist Tony Podesta

WASHINGTON — Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group are now the subjects of a federal investigation being led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, three sources with knowledge of the matter told NBC News.

The probe of Podesta and his Democratic-leaning lobbying firm grew out of Mueller's inquiry into the finances of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, according to the sources. As special counsel, Mueller has been tasked with investigating possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mueller-now-investigating-democratic-lobbyist-tony-podesta-n812776
Remember how Podesta and Manafort were paid by the same Pro-Russian/Pro-Yankuvytch client? Turns out Manafort worked FOR Podesta on Lobbying.

The AP obtained emails showing that Manafort and his deputy, Rick Gates, directed the work of the Podesta Group and another lobbying firm, Mercury.

Podesta Group CEO Kimberly Fritts said in a statement that the firm relied on assurances from the think tank, the European Centre for Modern Ukraine, that it was not controlled or financed by a foreign government or political party. Based on that information, the firm disclosed its work to Congress rather than to the Justice Department.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/paul-manafort-lobbying-ukraine-podesta-group-237163
Keep in mind not only was Podesta the lead for Hillary's Campaign, he was also involved with Obama in 2008 and handled placing Citigroup/Big Pharma/Big Agra multinational-preferred candidates as various top level Department posts.
27   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 25, 4:06am  

You mean posesta’s brother.
29   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 25, 7:59am  

me123 says

The group was founded by BOTH brothers.


Only one of which is being investigated.
31   anonymous   2017 Oct 25, 8:56am  

Joey, nothing was verified in the dossier. In fact, it is well understood that it was a pile of trash.

However, Comey and Lynch ran with it anyway and persuaded FISA that "parts of the raw intel gathering" were sufficient probable cause to investigate via wiretap.

BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, and total failure of the democratic process.
32   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 25, 8:58am  

anonymous says
Joey, nothing was verified in the dossier. In fact, it is well understood that it was a pile of trash.


Wrong. I've posted many, many articles listing exactly what has been verified.

The only bullshit is your posts.
33   anonymous   2017 Oct 25, 9:00am  

Just a quick question. What's the difference between paying money for dirt and paying for dirt with favors and influence to a foreign power? Does anyone who voted for Trump know the answer?
34   anonymous   2017 Oct 25, 9:00am  

Just a quick question. What's the difference between paying money for dirt and paying for dirt with favors and influence to a foreign power? Does anyone who voted for Trump know the answer?
36   anonymous   2017 Oct 25, 9:03am  

Prove it! Post the links.

Here's one quote from Business Insider 4/19/2017

"The FBI reportedly used the explosive, unverified dossier detailing President Donald Trump's alleged ties to Russia to bolster its case for a warrant that would allow it to surveil Carter Page, an early foreign-policy adviser to Trump's campaign."
37   anonymous   2017 Oct 25, 9:06am  

You're finished Joey - get a new job, sir!
38   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Oct 25, 9:08am  

anonymous says
"The FBI reportedly used the explosive, unverified dossier detailing President Donald Trump's alleged ties to Russia to bolster its case for a warrant that would allow it to surveil Carter Page, an early foreign-policy adviser to Trump's campaign."


Wow, so the Clinton Campaign paid for a fake salacious dossier that was then used by the Obama DOJ to get a FISA to spy on Trump.

Dirty and Dangerous to Democracy! Steele is filing like a mad man in the UK, where the defamation laws are much tougher. Paging Michael Cohen.

I bet when Steele dropped fake news anonymously, it was reported as a "HIgh Ranking Intelligence Source."
39   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2017 Oct 25, 9:15am  

TwoScoopsMcGee says
anonymous says
"The FBI reportedly used the explosive, unverified dossier detailing President Donald Trump's alleged ties to Russia to bolster its case for a warrant that would allow it to surveil Carter Page, an early foreign-policy adviser to Trump's campaign."


Wow, so the Clinton Campaign paid for a fake salacious dossier that was then used by the Obama DOJ to get a FISA to spy on Trump.

Dirty and Dangerous to Democracy! Steele is filing like a mad man in the UK, where the defamation laws are much tougher. Paging Michael Cohen.

I bet when Steele dropped fake news anonymously, it was reported as a "HIgh Ranking Intelligence Source."


Yep. The leftists on Pat.net don’t seem to care. Hmmm.
40   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 25, 9:17am  

anonymous says
Just a quick question. What's the difference between paying money for dirt and paying for dirt with favors and influence to a foreign power? Does anyone who voted for Trump know the answer?


One is legal and the other isn't?

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