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Holy Shit: Palace Revolution in Saudi Arabia

By TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce following x   2017 Nov 4, 5:48pm 4,904 views   69 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


As an alleged Houthi Missile was shot down over Saudi Arabia, King Salman and Crown Price Mohammed removed several figures, from the Army to the Navy.

King Salman Bin Abdul Aziz has sacked prince Moteib Bin Abdullah, Minister of the National Guard from his post on Saturday through a Royal order.

Prince Khalid bin Ayyaf has been appointed as minister for the National Guard.


A second Royal Order was issued to relieve Minister of Economy and Planning, Adel al-Faqieh, from his duties, and the appointment of Mohammed Al Tuwaijri as Minister of Economy and Planning.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gulf/2017/11/04/King-Salman-issues-Royal-Orders-relieves-Minister-of-the-National-Guard.html
They also arrested Saudi Billionaire and Trump Hater, Prince al-Waleed bin Talal,on corruption charges, along with several other ministers and former ministers.
LONDON — Saudi Arabia announced the arrest on Saturday night of the prominent billionaire investor Prince al-Waleed bin Talal, plus at least 10 other princes, four ministers and tens of former ministers.

The announcement of the arrests was made over Al Arabiya, the Saudi-owned satellite network whose broadcasts are officially approved.

The sweeping campaign of arrests appears to be the latest move to consolidate the power of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the favorite son and top adviser of King Salman.

The king had decreed the creation of a powerful new anticorruption committee, headed by the crown prince, only hours before the committee ordered the arrests.

Al Arabiya said that the anticorruption committee has the right to investigate, arrest, ban from travel or freeze the assets of anyone it deems corrupt.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-waleed-bin-talal.html



WOW. History in the making folks. And it was all waiting for a President that could backstop them during their reforms, who wasn't a Political Islamicist Sympathizer or Neoliberal, but a man of business.

#Saudi #SaudiArabia #EndOfWahabi

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30   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 25, 4:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anonymous says
A source reportedly told the Daily Mail that the group has since been subjected to “interrogations” carried out by “American mercenaries” brought in to work for the Crown Prince, 32, who is now the kingdom’s most powerful figure.

“They are beating them, torturing them, slapping them, insulting them. They want to break them down,” the source told the site.


I find this hard to believe. Why would the Crown Prince MBS, hire Americans to interrogate and torture? I'm sure the Saudis could find their own citizens to do the same thing. They would be able to maintain secrecy too. Nevertheless, I don't care what happens to those spoilt rotten billionaires. It's all stolen money that rightfully belongs to the people. A day will come when the Crown Prince will be overthrown, and he too will face the same punishment. In the meantime I fully support him.
31   Patrick   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 25, 4:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anonymous says
among them Prince Alwaleed bin Talal whose $US10 billion fortune makes him the 10th richest man on the planet.


What? A mere $10 billion is pathetic, making him about the the 156th richest man in the world:

https://www.therichest.com/top-lists/top-250-richest-people-in-the-world/page/4/
32   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 25, 7:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
anonymous says
among them Prince Alwaleed bin Talal whose $US10 billion fortune makes him the 10th richest man on the planet.


What? A mere $10 billion is pathetic, making him about the the 156th richest man in the world:


He tried to portray himself as a self made billionaire. ROFL ROFL.
33   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 25, 7:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Patrick says
anonymous says
among them Prince Alwaleed bin Talal whose $US10 billion fortune makes him the 10th richest man on the planet.


What? A mere $10 billion is pathetic, making him about the the 156th richest man in the world:


He tried to portray himself as a self made billionaire. ROFL ROFL.


A Saudi with intelligence? Very rare indeed.
34   bob2356   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 25, 9:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
A Saudi with intelligence? Very rare indeed.


KSA was smart enough to fuck over America for 50 years so far. They are using your money to pay terrorists to attack us as we speak.
35   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 26, 9:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Strategist says
A Saudi with intelligence? Very rare indeed.


KSA was smart enough to fuck over America for 50 years so far. They are using your money to pay terrorists to attack us as we speak.


Are you trying to provoke me into hating the Saudis? I already hate them. Not because they are Saudis, because they practice a rotten religion that is nothing but trouble.
The next 50 years will see the collapse of Islam. And it will be the Saudis who will do the most damage to Islam. All thanks to our new best friend, MBS the Prince of Arabia.
36   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2017 Nov 26, 11:46am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rew says
LOL. Trumpcucks are embracing another authoritarian regime. Nothing new here really.


You mean the regime that gave millions and millions to the Clinton Foundation, right? Except that wasn't the current leadership, but the Wahabi Exporting Old Guard that just got thrown out of power.

anonymous says
Insider claims Saudi princes and billionaires ‘tortured and insulted’ following brutal crackdown. SAUDI royalty and billionaires are being strung up by their feet and beaten by American private security contractors, according to insider reports.


I doubt that is happening, but beating Wahabi Exporters and Twitter Censors is doing God's work.
37   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 4, 6:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anonymous says
There is no doubt that 80 odd years of oil pumping has created a very mixed society in Saudi Arabia with indescribable wealth balanced against a struggling Saudi underclass. The young people are revolting – as everywhere, and want part of the action. The state has been increasingly paying out vast amounts to keep Saudis in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed. The oil price collapse has driven home the fact that no country, not even Saudi, can afford to just pay its people to do nothing.


The whole population of Saudi is basically on oil welfare. Technology is replacing crude oil with renewable energy. When the oil checks stop coming, and they will stop coming quicker than most people believe, what will the Saudis do? They are not very bright, extremely lazy, and have no natural talents. We can't educate them, nor can we quickly civilize them. They will resort to violence, and that is when we will have the greatest terrorism problem ever. Our only choice is to control them through puppets like the Crown Prince MBS.
38   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2017 Dec 4, 6:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

That's why they've divested in Countries all over the world.
39   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 4, 6:46pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
That's why they've divested in Countries all over the world.


Their investments with a population doubling every 25 years won't last long. They are already facing a huge deficit, and have started tapping into their investments.
They are no different than the lottery winners who squander their winnings in a few short years.
40   bob2356   ignore (3)   2017 Dec 4, 6:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
All thanks to our new best friend, MBS the Prince of Arabia.
Strategist says
Our only choice is to control them through puppets like the Crown Prince MBS.


You guys are really funny. How many radical imans around the world have been stopped from preaching terrorism? How many radical madras (aka terrorist training schools) around the world have been shut down? How many saudi's nave been arrested for sending out money to terrorists? The answer would be zero/zilch/nada/none.

The people arrested have only 2 traits. They have big bank accounts to confiscate and they have enough power to oppose MBS. The whole thing is a power grab, nothing to do with reform of any kind.

But hey keep on dreaming.
41   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 4, 7:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Strategist says
Our only choice is to control them through puppets like the Crown Prince MBS.


You guys are really funny. How many radical imans around the world have been stopped from preaching terrorism? How many radical madras (aka terrorist training schools) around the world have been shut down? How many saudi's nave been arrested for sending out money to terrorists? The answer would be zero/zilch/nada/none.


Good evening Bob. Hope you are keeping warm in ice country.
Like Rome, Islam was not created in a day. Like Rome, Islam will eventually be destroyed.
Unlike Rome, which was destroyed by the barbarians, Islam will be destroyed by the civilized.
It will happen because we will make it happen. We have no choice.
42   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 4, 7:08pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
The people arrested have only 2 traits. They have big bank accounts to confiscate and they have enough power to oppose MBS. The whole thing is a power grab, nothing to do with reform of any kind.

But hey keep on dreaming.


Power grab comes first if you want your own puppet in power.
43   bob2356   ignore (3)   2017 Dec 5, 5:33am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says


Good evening Bob. Hope you are keeping warm in ice country.


Totally toasty, really enjoying the cooler weather. No ice to be seen except at the ski area's. Ski day 19 today. Should make the 100 day club by late march.

Strategist says


Power grab comes first if you want your own puppet in power.


How do you figure the saudi prince in power de jour is our puppet? More the other way around, trump is his puppet. The bullshit talk of reform will die the second aramco goes public and KSA aka the prince banks the money.

Let me know when some reforms that actually reign in saudi sponsored radical islam around the world happen. Not that anyone born in the 20th or 21st century is going to live long enough to see that happen.

Keep dreaming.
44   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 5, 5:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
How do you figure the saudi prince in power de jour is our puppet? More the other way around, trump is his puppet. The bullshit talk of reform will die the second aramco goes public and KSA aka the prince banks the money.

Trump is their puppet? ha ha ha Trump does not need the Saudi regime to survive. The Saudi regime needs Trump for their survival. They need our weapons to defeat Iran. Without American weapons the Saudis would get barbecued by the Iranians.
I believe your thinking is a bit frozen. Throw another log on the fire will ya.

bob2356 says
Let me know when some reforms that actually reign in saudi sponsored radical islam around the world happen. Not that anyone born in the 20th or 21st century is going to live long enough to see that happen.

Have patience. Let MBS become king first.
45   bob2356   ignore (3)   2017 Dec 5, 7:03pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

Trump is their puppet? ha ha ha Trump does not need the Saudi regime to survive. The Saudi regime needs Trump for their survival. They need our weapons to defeat Iran. Without American weapons the Saudis would get barbecued by the Iranians.


So thats why trump scrambled to make KSA his first foreign visit as president and kuscher and company have been running a commuter service over there. Because they need us Just look at how many trips the needy king has taken to see trump here. Did you ever consider making objective reality align with what you post? It's just a thought.

Strategist says

Have patience. Let MBS become king first.


He had no trouble arresting and confiscating all the money from the most powerful people in the KSA. Yet he can't shut down rag bag mosques and madras schools in third world shitholes. Nor can he stop the flow of money to terrorists in a country where the government controls every financial transaction? How does that work?. Did you ever consider making objective reality align with what you post? It's just a thought.
46   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 5, 7:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Strategist says

Trump is their puppet? ha ha ha Trump does not need the Saudi regime to survive. The Saudi regime needs Trump for their survival. They need our weapons to defeat Iran. Without American weapons the Saudis would get barbecued by the Iranians.


So thats why trump scrambled to make KSA his first foreign visit as president and kuscher and company have been running a commuter service over there. Because they need us Just look at how many trips the needy king has taken to see trump here. Did you ever consider making objective reality align with what you post? It's just a thought.

Irrelevant, deceptive, and false. You are comparing "kuscher and company" vs the Saudi King. They are not equivalent heads of state.
Please throw a second log into the fire.

bob2356 says
Strategist says

Have patience. Let MBS become king first.


He had no trouble arresting and confiscating all the money from the most powerful people in the KSA. Yet he can't shut down rag bag mosques and madras schools in third world shitholes.

Confiscating the money from all those Prince's was the right thing to do. They stole the oil money, not earned it. It belongs to the people. His actions tells us this is the guy we need to support. MBS could be an atheist in the closet. I pray to Allah that he is. :)
47   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 5, 7:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

You want to support the people that fund and create Radical Islamic Terrorism?
48   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 5, 8:14pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

errc says
You want to support the people that fund and create Radical Islamic Terrorism?


I want to support the people who are willing to destroy radical Islam.
49   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 5, 8:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
errc says
You want to support the people that fund and create Radical Islamic Terrorism?


I want to support the people who are willing to destroy radical Islam.


You are terribly confused, then.
50   bob2356   ignore (3)   2017 Dec 6, 4:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Confiscating the money from all those Prince's was the right thing to do. They stole the oil money, not earned it. It belongs to the people. His actions tells us this is the guy we need to support.


The prince got his money from the tooth fairy leaving a really big lump under his pillow is what you are saying? Even more lame. If you look around the poker table and can't see the sucker then the sucker is you.
51   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 6, 9:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Strategist says
Confiscating the money from all those Prince's was the right thing to do. They stole the oil money, not earned it. It belongs to the people. His actions tells us this is the guy we need to support.


The prince got his money from the tooth fairy leaving a really big lump under his pillow is what you are saying? Even more lame. If you look around the poker table and can't see the sucker then the sucker is you.


They have hundreds of Prince's. All of them looting the treasury in broad daylight. You think they have what it takes to earn billions?
52   bob2356   ignore (3)   2017 Dec 6, 12:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

They have hundreds of Prince's. All of them looting the treasury in broad daylight.


Of which MBS is top of the list of looters. Do you think he paid for his 425 million euro yacht with grocery store redemption stamps? You, trump, and two scoops getting played big time. At least trump is going to put a shitload of money in his pocket. What are the patnet twins getting?
53   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 6, 3:38pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Strategist says

They have hundreds of Prince's. All of them looting the treasury in broad daylight.


Of which MBS is top of the list of looters. Do you think he paid for his 425 million euro yacht with grocery store redemption stamps? You, trump, and two scoops getting played big time.

MBS probably is the biggest looter. I'm willing to look the other way as long as he remains our puppet. It's not even my money.

bob2356 says
At least trump is going to put a shitload of money in his pocket. What are the patnet twins getting?

Trump isn't getting paid, and neither am I. I wish I was getting something out of it, though. I take bribes. :)
54   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (35)   2018 May 29, 5:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Arm the chicks and encourage them to kill mullahs in the nude.
55   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 May 29, 9:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Feux Follets says
“The business case is hard to make for manufacturing and light industry in Saudi Arabia,” says Karen Young, a senior resident scholar at the Arab Gulf States Institute in Washington.

The Neom development is the flagship project of Prince Mohammed’s plan. He unveiled the scheme at a glitzy investor conference in October where he wooed some of the world’s top bankers and executives. Neom is far more ambitious than the six economic cities launched in the 2000s: it will cover 26,000 sq m and targets attracting investment in new technologies, including renewable energy and robotics. Its goal is to contribute $100bn to GDP by 2030.

Prince Mohammed will personally oversee the project, and it is be financed by a combination of government spending, funding from the Public Investment Fund, the $230bn sovereign wealth fund, and private sector investment.

Similar diversification plans have been tried many times before and stumbled. But Saudi officials insist they have heeded ...


Nice article. Thanks for posting.
I wish MBS the best, and want him to succeed. I just don't see him succeeding even if he throws billions more at his pet projects. The Saudi people just don't have what it takes to succeed without oil money and foreigners. The Saudis are basically lazy, unskilled, not very bright and uneducated. It's not gonna change in 12 years. They will be counting on outside help to make anything work.
56   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 30, 5:47am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yah I agree with Strategist. Your people are your best resource, so when those people are lazy, unmotivated to accomplish anything in this life other than jihad, and incredibly fatalistic, they won’t create much that they aren’t commanded to create. Unless the prince manages to reduce the sway of Islam in that most Islamic nation, he has precious little hope of advancing his people past the barbarian stage.
57   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (35)   2018 May 30, 5:55am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

KILL! THE! MULLAHS!

AND! FUCKING! BAPTISE! THEM! ALL!
58   HEYYOU   ignore (23)   2018 May 30, 10:35am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It's not news unless there was a slaughter.
59   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (35)   2018 Jun 10, 2:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Arm the chicks.

Every Saudi lady that can lift M134 should have one.
60   bob2356   ignore (3)   2018 Jun 10, 5:37am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Feux Follets says
Prince Muhammad’s strategy of suppressing dissent while loosening up in some areas appears calculated. He has made many enemies by sidelining fellow royals, shaking down businessmen, locking up liberals and alienating religious leaders. But few question his rule. Saudis seem to be adapting to the likelihood that one unaccountable man will rule them for decades to come.


Yet another leader for life ruthless strongman that trump gushes over. Unlike those weak democratically elected leaders who are actually accountable to the voters.

Anyone want to take a bet on when we will start hearing that limiting the president to 2 terms is a bad deal for America? That we need to overturn the 2 term limit to MAGA.
61   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jun 10, 10:20am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Feux Follets says
Prince Muhammad’s strategy of suppressing dissent while loosening up in some areas appears calculated. He has made many enemies by sidelining fellow royals, shaking down businessmen, locking up liberals and alienating religious leaders. But few question his rule. Saudis seem to be adapting to the likelihood that one unaccountable man will rule them for decades to come.


Yet another leader for life ruthless strongman that trump gushes over. Unlike those weak democratically elected leaders who are actually accountable to the voters.

Islamic countries are not ready for democracy. The best we can expect is an American friendly puppet, and we have that in Saudi Prince MBS.

bob2356 says

Anyone want to take a bet on when we will start hearing that limiting the president to 2 terms is a bad deal for America? That we need to overturn the 2 term limit to MAGA.

Hey, that's a great idea. How come I did not thunk it.
62   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Jun 10, 10:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Yet another leader for life ruthless strongman that trump gushes over. Unlike those weak democratically elected leaders who are actually accountable to the voters.


Whereas under Obama, King Abdullah was a beacon of democracy. And nary a peep was heard from Obama or his secretary of state, Hillary Clinton.
63   bob2356   ignore (3)   2018 Jun 10, 10:41am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
bob2356 says
Yet another leader for life ruthless strongman that trump gushes over. Unlike those weak democratically elected leaders who are actually accountable to the voters.


Whereas under Obama, King Abdullah was a beacon of democracy. And nary a peep was heard from Obama or his secretary of state, Hillary Clinton.


So you are in favor of Trump continuing the offical US policy of sucking Saudi dick? What happened to Trump fixing Obama's mistakes? You can't have it both ways, although god knows you certainly try.
64   bob2356   ignore (3)   2018 Jun 10, 10:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

Hey, that's a great idea. How come I did not thunk it.


Be carful what you wish for you may get it.
65   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jun 10, 10:57am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
So you are in favor of Trump continuing the offical US policy of sucking Saudi dick? What happened to Trump fixing Obama's mistakes? You can't have it both ways, although god knows you certainly try.


No Bob no. You don't understand real life politics.
Obama implemented policies to suck Saudi dick. We all saw Obama bow down towards the King's dick, didn't we? Trump changed the policy to making Saudi Kings bend over, and now they know what a big dick Trump has.
66   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Jun 10, 11:13am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
So you are in favor of Trump continuing the offical US policy of sucking Saudi dick? What happened to Trump fixing Obama's mistakes? You can't have it both ways, although god knows you certainly try.


Have you noticed what's been happening in Saudi Arabia since Trump became President?

First Female Driver, Wrestling and Music Events, Women unbanned from many Public Events, etc.

We tried "Shock Liberalism" before and it's failed. But a nice, decent pace of reform HITHERTO UNSEEN in Saudi Arabia is preceding nicely.
67   bob2356   ignore (3)   2018 Jun 10, 11:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
No Bob no. You don't understand real life politics.
Obama implemented policies to suck Saudi dick. We all saw Obama bow down towards the King's dick, didn't we? Trump changed the policy to making Saudi Kings bend over, and now they know what a big dick Trump has


TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
Have you noticed what's been happening in Saudi Arabia since Trump became President?

First Female Driver, Wrestling and Music Events, Women unbanned from many Public Events, etc.


This all makes us safer from Saudi sponsered and financied terrorism world wide how exactly? When radical wahabbi madras schools and mosques around the world start shutting down and radical imans defunded then I'll be believe MBS is something other than a power grabbing opportunist. Not before. Actions speak louder than words. There is zero evidence Saudi funding of terrorists world wide has changed. Never going to happen. The last thing in the world MBS wants is for these people to come back to KSA. They spent a lot of time and money getting them out in the first place.
68   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Jun 10, 11:24am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
When radical wahabbi madras schools and mosques around the world start shutting down and radical imans defunded then I'll be believe MBS is something other than a power grabbing opportunist.


Boom - Saudi Arabia breaks with ultra conservative Mosque.
BRUSSELS/RIYADH (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia has agreed to give up control of Belgium’s largest mosque in a sign that it is trying to shed its reputation as a global exporter of an ultra-conservative brand of Islam.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-attacks-belgium-saudi-insight/giving-up-control-of-brussels-mosque-saudi-arabia-sends-a-signal-idUSKBN1FW0R3
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/surrendering-brussels-mosque-saudi-break-ultra-conservatism/
69   bob2356   ignore (3)   2018 Jun 10, 11:37am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says

Boom - Saudi Arabia breaks with ultra conservative Mosque.


The Belgians threw them out for christ sakes. Saudi's "ageed" to be thown out to save face. This started last year anyway, when MBS was first appointed. Nothing to do with MBS or his policies. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/the-mosque-is-belgiums-biggest-officials-say-its-a-hotbed-for-extremism/2017/11/10/8a6d7746-b849-11e7-9b93-b97043e57a22_story.html?utm_term=.35a593ed8256

Try again.

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