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27 RIGHT WING DEAD AND 30 INJURED IN TEXAS CHURCH SHOOTING

By jazz_music following x   2017 Nov 5, 12:56pm 1,116 views   77 comments   watch   quote     share  


The lack of information on this shooting is stunning. Authorities shut down all reporting on the incident other than it happened, the address and the un-named shooter is dead.

FBI is on scene controlling optics for the NRA. This is Texas where everybody has guns and most people carry them even in church. You can't blame them either. Trump says thoughts and prayers bla bla bla. Governor says "Evil act," so this must have been a white man.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41880511
http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-church-scene-shooting-sunday-report/story?id=50945596
https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-church-shooting-multiple-casualties-

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41 justme   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 6, 5:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

After reading this thread, I am STILL stunned by the lack of good information.
42 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 6, 5:21pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

justme says
After reading this thread, I am STILL stunned by the lack of good information.


Google doesn't work on your computer either?
43 joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 6, 5:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
After finding out the perp is an enraged soy boy who beats women and children, the MSM pivoted to Koi Feeding.


You've lost it McGee. MSM is covering this ad nauseum and wtf are you talking about soy boy.
44 Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 6, 5:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Patrick says
This is one of those dissident blogs!


So like the whole Trumpism, take credit for any favorable news, blame the opposition of all the bad doings and there is NO truth but a convenient slant to every occurrence. And to think of it that it is coming from the religious right. I am sure Jesus loves you for spitting all these lies.
45 anon_06961   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 6, 6:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

P N Dr Lo R says
Patrick says
June: Bernie Bro shoots Congressmen at baseball practice
Sept: Refugee shoots church attendees in Tennessee
Oct: Registered Dem kills 60 at country music concert
Nov: Atheist kills 27 attending Baptist Church
There does seem to be a pattern.


it's like some crazies are out to get Republicans. This is just gotten insane!
46 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 6, 6:49pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_06961 says
P N Dr Lo R says
Patrick says
June: Bernie Bro shoots Congressmen at baseball practice
Sept: Refugee shoots church attendees in Tennessee
Oct: Registered Dem kills 60 at country music concert
Nov: Atheist kills 27 attending Baptist Church
There does seem to be a pattern.


it's like some crazies LIBERALS are out to get Republicans. This is just gotten insane!


There, you made an error, I fixed it for you.
47 joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 6, 6:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Sniper says
anon_06961 says
P N Dr Lo R says
Patrick says
June: Bernie Bro shoots Congressmen at baseball practice
Sept: Refugee shoots church attendees in Tennessee
Oct: Registered Dem kills 60 at country music concert
Nov: Atheist kills 27 attending Baptist Church
There does seem to be a pattern.


it's like some crazies LIBERALS are out to get Republicans. This is just gotten insane!


There, you made an error, I fixed it for you.


lol--whatever you guys need to tell yourself. The first one may have been politically motivated, but the others have nothing to do with politics and the shooters were not liberals.
48 BayAreaObserver   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 12:04am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens.

SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, TX—In the hours following a violent rampage in Texas in which a lone attacker killed 27 individuals and seriously injured several others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Sunday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said Kansas resident Britt Mulvanos, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this individual from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what they really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past eight years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1820163660
49 BayAreaObserver   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 12:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Nation To Wait For More Facts On Texas Shooting Before Doing Absolutely Nothing About It.

WASHINGTON—In the wake of a shooting in Sutherland Springs, TX that left at least 26 people dead and 20 wounded, the nation declared its intent Monday to wait for more facts on the mass slaughter before doing absolutely nothing about it. “We don’t want to jump to conclusions and get the facts wrong before we start ignoring it completely,” said Enid, OK resident Roger Benson, echoing the sentiments of 324 million other Americans who added they weren’t willing to do nothing whatsoever to address the country’s mass shooting epidemic until they learned more about the killer, including his possible connection to the church and his mental health background. “People have been speculating on social media, but that doesn’t do us any good unless we know the truth about his family life, and how and why he was able to acquire an assault weapon—otherwise, there’s just no way to neglect to address this shooting in the larger context of gun violence in America. We all need to take a deep breath, gather as much information as we can, and then sit with our hands folded indefinitely.” At press time, the nation conceded that even if a couple facts remained unknown, that shouldn’t stand in way of a concerted effort to simply wait for the next bloodbath.

https://www.theonion.com/nation-to-wait-for-more-facts-on-texas-shooting-before-1820186609
50 epitaph   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 12:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

He was really mental, should not have been able to buy any firearms. Government failure is to blame imo. Crazies are everywhere (especially on patnet) but they aren't suppose to be able to buy firearms.
51 BayAreaObserver   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 12:51am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Crazies are everywhere (especially on patnet)

The "crazies" are extremely well represented in Congress and virtually every state government by loonie tunes more loonie than the electorate.
52 APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   ignore (5)   2017 Nov 7, 6:10am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

A REAL PRECEDENT! would have stuffed the carp into his ass and ordered the little savage chieftain to eat it from his ASSHOLE!

FAIL!
53 bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 7:07am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

epitaph says
He was really mental, should not have been able to buy any firearms. Government failure is to blame imo. Crazies are everywhere (especially on patnet) but they aren't suppose to be able to buy firearms.


From a gun dealer. Private sales and guns shows don't do back round checks except where some states require it. But it's widely ignored. If a dealer turned him away how hard would it be to make a private buy in texas? Be serious.
54 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 7:45am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

bob2356 says
epitaph says
He was really mental, should not have been able to buy any firearms. Government failure is to blame imo. Crazies are everywhere (especially on patnet) but they aren't suppose to be able to buy firearms.


From a gun dealer. Private sales and guns shows don't do back round checks except where some states require it. But it's widely ignored. If a dealer turned him away how hard would it be to make a private buy in texas? Be serious.


So tell us, Bullshit Bobby, what NEW laws would have prevented him from buying a weapon. For that matter, do you know which CURRENT laws he broke when buying those rifles?

As we all know, criminals always follow all the laws, right?
55 bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 8:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Sniper says
So tell us, Bullshit Bobby, what NEW laws would have prevented him from buying a weapon. For that matter, do you know which CURRENT laws he broke when buying those rifles?


Yawn. Get a life.
56 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 8:15am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

bob2356 says
Sniper says
So tell us, Bullshit Bobby, what NEW laws would have prevented him from buying a weapon. For that matter, do you know which CURRENT laws he broke when buying those rifles?


Yawn. Get a life.


Typical, I didn't think you could answer.

You and Joey the TROLL are LONG on hyperbole and bullshit but SHORT on facts and honesty.

Why is that?
57 bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 10:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Sniper says


Typical, I didn't think you could answer.


Yawn, get a life piggy. I never said anyone could stop a very determined crazy stop making bullshit non arguments.
58 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 11:49am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

bob2356 says
Sniper says


Typical, I didn't think you could answer.


I never said anyone could stop a very determined crazy stop making bullshit non arguments.


But you did say this:

bob2356 says
Private sales and guns shows don't do back round checks except where some states require it. But it's widely ignored. If a dealer turned him away how hard would it be to make a private buy in texas?


Did the shooter buy his gun at a gun show or private seller? You going back to your strawman sales narrative again, which has NOTHING to do with this situation? You claimed all criminals get their guns from strawman sales thru legal gun owners. Is your dementia really getting bad?
59 joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 5:22pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Sniper says
So tell us, Bullshit Bobby, what NEW laws would have prevented him from buying a weapon. For that matter, do you know which CURRENT laws he broke when buying those rifles?

As we all know, criminals always follow all the laws, right?


I think that's what the liberals keep forgetting. Bad people are going to do bad things no matter what the laws say.

If they got their way, everyone would be eating with plastic spoons, since metal utensils are far too dangerous. Don't forget to ban pressure cookers, crock pots, pocket knives, automobiles and other standard items.
60 joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 5:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joshuatrio says
Bad people are going to do bad things no matter what the laws say.


So why have laws against rape or murder then?
61 jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 7, 5:34pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_06961 says
it's like some crazies are out to get Republicans. This is just gotten insane!

High profile Republicans have been threatening civil war with great fanfare in the news. What if they were the ones that get shot? The first thing that would happen would be less threats, eh?
62 Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 6:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
joshuatrio says
Bad people are going to do bad things no matter what the laws say.


So why have laws against rape or murder then?


To put them in prison so they can do no more harm to the general public.
64 KimJongUn   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 10:57pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

bob2356 says
epitaph says
He was really mental, should not have been able to buy any firearms. Government failure is to blame imo. Crazies are everywhere (especially on patnet) but they aren't suppose to be able to buy firearms.


From a gun dealer. Private sales and guns shows don't do back round checks except where some states require it. But it's widely ignored. If a dealer turned him away how hard would it be to make a private buy in texas? Be serious.


He lied on his background check application form which is a prosecutable offense. So, if existing laws were followed he would've been in jail now.
65 joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 5:14am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Sniper says


There are over 300 federal guns laws on the books now (and that doesn't include additional different state laws), if we only had 301 laws, this shooting would never of happened, right, Joey the TROLL?


Good point. LOL
66 joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 6:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joshuatrio says
Sniper says


There are over 300 federal guns laws on the books now (and that doesn't include additional different state laws), if we only had 301 laws, this shooting would never of happened, right, Joey the TROLL?


Good point. LOL


Yes, I'll second that it's not a good point. CIC often falls into the logical trap of if a new law wouldn't 100% stop everything, it's not worth enacting. If a new gun law saves 300 lives/year, I'd say it's worth it. Even if it doesn't stop all gun crime.
67 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 8, 7:28am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says

Yes, I'll second that it's not a good point. CIC often falls into the logical trap of if a new law wouldn't 100% stop everything, it's not worth enacting. If a new gun law saves 300 lives/year, I'd say it's worth it. Even if it doesn't stop all gun crime.


Oh Joey the TROLL, your logic is such nonsense. If a criminal is going to break one of the 300 EXISTING laws now, how does 300 NEW laws prevent him from breaking any in the future?

How's all those STRICT state gun laws working out in your backyard of Shitcago?
68 joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 7:30am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Sniper says

How's all those STRICT state gun laws working out in your backyard of Shitcago?


Actually, not bad. The problem is that the laws aren't so strict elsewhere so the majority of guns used in Chicago came from out of state.
69 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 8, 7:49am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
Sniper says

How's all those STRICT state gun laws working out in your backyard of Shitcago?


Actually, not bad. The problem is that the laws aren't so strict elsewhere so the majority of guns used in Chicago came from out of state.


So does that mean shooting people with an illegal gun acquired from somewhere else is LEGAL in Shitcago?

You do know that most killings now in Shitcago is by guns beings passed between gang members, right? Why didn't they have a background check in Shitcago before they transffered them to another person? How do you fix that loophole?
70 bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 8:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Sniper says

You do know that most killings now in Shitcago is by guns beings passed between gang members, right? Why didn't they have a background check in Shitcago before they transffered them to another person? How do you fix that loophole?


Did all those guns pop up like magic out of thin air into gang members hands like manna from heaven in blue steel?? Immaculate possession? You are too funny piggy.

I know this is really really hard for you to grasp. But if a criminal has a gun then other than the occasional case where a gun was stolen (don't even bother to put up the completely discredited nonsense criminals only steal guns) somewhere along the line a legal gun owner sold a gun to someone who would not be able to buy one if they had back round check who was either a criminal or was going to sell the gun to a criminal. Perfectly legally in most states.

Now I know this is even harder for you to think through, but guns are mobile objects. You can take them places. Really it's true, google it. Do you suppose that given enough profit there might be people who take guns to criminals in Chicago pretty much making local gun control meaningless? I mean it's not that those kinds of things happen with drugs or anything.
71 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 8, 4:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

bob2356 says
Now I know this is even harder for you to think through, but guns are mobile objects. You can take them places.


Bobby Bullshit, I already said that:

Sniper says
You do know that most killings now in Shitcago is by guns beings passed between gang members, right?


bob2356 says
But if a criminal has a gun then other than the occasional case where a gun was stolen (don't even bother to put up the completely discredited nonsense criminals only steal guns) somewhere along the line a legal gun owner sold a gun to someone who would not be able to buy one if they had back round check who was either a criminal or was going to sell the gun to a criminal.


Are you going to start this bullshit again?? We already went over that, again and again.

If someone (a legal gun owner) sells a gun to a criminal (your straw man claim), THEY are already a criminal, even before they transfer the gun. So a criminal gave a gun to another criminal.

You still going to play semantics?
72 anon_e144f   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 4:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Sniper says

If someone (a legal gun owner) sells a gun to a criminal (your straw man claim), THEY are already a criminal, even before they transfer the gun. So a criminal gave a gun to another criminal.


Knowingly sell to a criminal. Since there is no requirement to ask then they obviously ( to everyone but you) aren't a criminal because they didn't know. So how exactly in your pink sky world do criminals get all their guns Manna from heaven. I've posted at least 6-8 different studies showing how, but either you didn't read them or they were beyond your reading comprehension. .

Who is playing semantic bullshit?
73 curious2   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 4:51pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

"Mom of slain 16-year-old: 'I wish I wouldn't have taken her to church that morning'"

Don't let this happen to you. Never bring a child to church.
74 Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 5:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

curious2 says
"Mom of slain 16-year-old: 'I wish I wouldn't have taken her to church that morning'"

Don't let this happen to you. Never bring a child to church.


Take them to a science museum instead.
75 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 8, 6:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_e144f says
Knowingly sell to a criminal. Since there is no requirement to ask then they obviously ( to everyone but you) aren't a criminal because they didn't know.


You really believe the crap you post??

Legal gun owners are just going to sell a gun to someone they don't know, just because they're a nice guy? Do you think selling a gun to someone is the same as selling a used baby stroller on Craigslist? Are you really that clueless?


anon_e144f says
I've posted at least 6-8 different studies showing how, but either you didn't read them or they were beyond your reading comprehension. .


You haven't posted jack shit, because if you did, it would be really easy to re-post them to prove your point. Why didn't you do that?

Hey Bobby, just how bad is your dementia getting?


anon_e144f says
So how exactly in your pink sky world do criminals get all their guns Manna from heaven.


Talk about reading comprehension issues, here I'll repost MY comment again, maybe you can get your son to explain it to you:

Sniper says
Sniper says
You do know that most killings now in Shitcago is by guns beings passed between gang members, right?


Now, for all the criminals that did the recent mass shootings, they bought their guns legally with the required background checks. What are you going to do about them?
76 anon_03507   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 7:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Sniper says


You haven't posted jack shit, because if you did, it would be really easy to re-post them to prove your point. Why didn't you do that?


No need to keep reposting the same thing time and time again for some senile old clam digger. You will forget in 10 minutes anyway. Isn't it about time for you and the rest of the nursing home to get a diaper change, put in your teeth, and eat a little dinner? I hear it's creamed spinach and prunes tonight. Yum yum.

Sniper says
Talk about reading comprehension issues, here I'll repost MY comment again, maybe you can get your son to explain it to you:


Maybe you can get a not very bright 6 year old to explain the problem with your statement to you. Where did the guns come from that gang members are passing back and forth? Did they fall down from heaven? Are there gun trees growing in chicago where they can be picked like apples? Did Aliens bring them from alpha centurie? Transmutation? Alchemy? Magic? Were they artifacts found in the ancient catacombs below Chicago?

Sniper says

Now, for all the criminals that did the recent mass shooting


Lots of focus problems for you tonight. You opened the subject to chicago guns, not me. Oh right that was outside the 10 minute memory window. Never mind. If you ask really nicely I'm sure they will give you a second helping of prunes. Being regular is very important for people your age.
77 Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 7:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Strategist says
curious2 says
"Mom of slain 16-year-old: 'I wish I wouldn't have taken her to church that morning'"

Don't let this happen to you. Never bring a child to church.


Take them to a science museum instead.


Went to the Vatican last month. Awesome, wonderful, interesting, exciting.
Pope was there. Sorry, God was not there.

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