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New: moderators per topic

By Patrick following x   2017 Nov 5, 7:59pm 7,089 views   767 comments   watch   quote     share  


At the suggestion of the late Turtledove I'm trying to separate the site into distinct topics with a moderator for each topic.
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The first moderator is Iwog, who is in charge of Investing.

Currently, the only power a moderator has is ability to delete comments in that topic. But soon (like within the next week) I hope to implement these other abilities:

ability to delete whole posts in the topic
set or edit "About ${topic}" page
acceptance or rejection of posts waiting for moderation in topic
acceptance or rejection of comments waiting for moderation in topic
ability to free jailed comments in topic
user blacklist by ip or username for that topic
user whitelist for that topic (only those users would be allowed to comment)
ability to set a background image for the topic, and color scheme
ability to set up own donation link for the work

Anyone care to moderate a specific topic? @Dan8267 would you like #scitech or #science?

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201 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 11:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says
No one believes you.

You vehemently attacked real estate as an investment all throughout 2013. I linked the threads. Then somehow amazingly in 2015 you returned to the site bragging about all the houses you sold at a profit. Or maybe it was 2016. Either way it just reeked of bullshit.

This is what I mean when I say you're extremely dishonest and nothing you say can be trusted.


Don't care what you think about my wealth. I've posted numerous screens of my accounts, gains, stocks I am in showing that I'm a multi-millionaire.

Thanks partially to Trump.

Here's another one to make you jealous, like I know you are.



... and that's when Apple was at 155.

What is it at now? I stopped counting at 170.
202 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 11:51am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Goran_K says
Don't care what you think about my wealth. I've posted numerous screens of my accounts showing that I'm a multi-millionaire.


I said nothing about your wealth. Not a single assertion.

All I did was prove you were a liar. Repeatedly.
203 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 11:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says
Germany has the 4th largest GDP in the entire world. So the 4th largest economy on earth is what you consider shambles?


Yes. For many reasons, but primarily because the Euro economy is propped up by ECB money and German guarantees of political and financial backing.

Right now Debt-to-GDP ratios are running close to 175 per cent in Greece and 160 per cent in Italy.

Guess who is breaking their back to make sure that doesn't collapse.

You guessed it.



But go ahead, I'm sure Iwog will put his money where his mouth is and invest his wealth into the 4th largest GDP of which he is completely confident of growth and profits galore.
204 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 12:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

wGoran_K says
Yes. For many reasons, but primarily because the Euro economy is propped up by ECB money and German guarantees of political and financial backing.


That means it's literally in shambles eh?

Funny because most people who are reasonable and not insane might save the term "literally in shambles" for a country such as Somalia or Haiti or Bangladesh or somewhere else where people are not able to get a job and live a happy life.
205 anon_7ebb1   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 12:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says

All the major Euro economies (France, Germany, Italy, UK) are literally in shambles. No we do not want that.


I've visited several western euro countries - did not notice any mad max dystopian "shambles." Restaurants are packed, museums have tons of tourists, famous tourist sites are swarming with people, pace of life moves at a natural beat, etc.

Also, if rightists don't want deleterious economic and cultural influence coming out of Europe and spreading into U.S. why align with Russia where standard of living is horrendous compared to western europe, elites run the country and people drop dead in their mid 60s if they are lucky?
206 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 7, 12:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

errc says
Which specific policies was Sanders attempting to bring to the U.S, from Venezuela?

Also, what first hand knowledge do you have of Venezuela? How do you know you’re perceptions aren’t derived completely from #FakeNews?


I guess I missed your response. What were the specific policies?
207 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 12:19pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says
That means it's literally in shambles eh?

Funny because most people who are reasonable and not insane might save the term "literally in shambles" for a country such as Somalia or Haiti or Bangladesh or somewhere else where people are not able to get a job and live a happy life.


See? Semantic stalling arguments. I literally called it half a dozen post ago. This is what you do when you get cornered on a subject where you're clearly wrong, then you begin to "argue" about the depth of the claim and word meanings.

Weak.
208 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 12:20pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_7ebb1 says
why align with Russia where standard of living is horrendous compared to western europe


No right winger I know aligns with Russia. Democrats on the other hand.............



I've visited several western euro countries - did not notice any mad max dystopian "shambles." Restaurants are packed, museums have tons of tourists, famous tourist sites are swarming with people, pace of life moves at a natural beat, etc.


It ain't as good as here. If it were, millionaires wouldn't be leaving by the tens of thousands and coming to the United States.

209 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 12:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Goran_K says
See? Semantic stalling arguments.


This isn't an argument. This is you making up the definitions of words because you're a liar. You do it on the fly so you never have to have any accountability for anything you say.

Really pathetic.
210 anon_7ebb1   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 12:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
No right winger I know aligns with Russia. Democrats on the other hand.............


Many right wingers sure as hell do especially the alt right equivalent of osama bin laden known as richard spencer.
211 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 2:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_7ebb1 says
No right winger I know aligns with Russia. Democrats on the other hand.............


Name me 10 right wing personalities who openly support and align with Russia. Go.
212 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 2:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Goran_K says
Name me 10 right wing personalities who openly support and align with Russia. Go.


Wow I can't believe you'd ask this question.

Secretary of State who wear's Putin's medal? Trump's son in law? Flynn, Manafort, Tiller, Kushner, Page?

Or are these not "personalities" in your book as if it matters a single fuckwit? The ENTIRE Russian investigation including at least one conviction and a lot of indictments are entirely about Republicans openly supporting and aligning with Russia. Speaking of personalities who align with Russia, how about Donald Trump who was apologizing for Putin during his own convention?
213 anon_313db   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 2:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Some of the most notorious ones who are clearly aligned with russia are:

Richard Spencer
Jared Taylor
Sam Dickson
Alex Jones
Matthew Heimbach
David Duke
Harold Covington\
Mike Cernovich
214 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 7, 3:12pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Why was Jeff Sessions lying under oath about meeting with Russians?
215 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 3:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_313db says
Alex Jones




Okay, I thought this was going to be a serious conversation. Sorry my expectations were misaligned.
217 anon_8a3dc   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 5:13pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
Luckily this next generation of young adult is slated to be one of the most moderate and conservative in over 70 years.


I didn’t realize libertarian actually meant conservative.
218 anon_8a3dc   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 5:14pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

I think you need to decide which one you are, or does it change depending on the needs of your argument?
219 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 7, 5:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

anon_8a3dc says
I think you need to decide which one you are, or does it change depending on the needs of your argument?


Never Leftism...not even once.
But never voted Republican, ever.
But only open to the possibility of criticizing Democrats

It’s either the Politically Conflicted Party, or just Republican as hell but ashamed to own it
220 joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 5:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

errc says
Never Leftism...not even once.
But never voted Republican, ever.
But only open to the possibility of criticizing Democrats

It’s either the Politically Conflicted Party, or just Republican as hell but ashamed to own it


Goran is the reason that polls oversample Dems (according to piggy). But pollsters aren't as stupid as him so they know that there are a lot of folks like Goran who pretend to be independent or Libertarian because they think it's cooler than simply saying they vote a straight R ticket every 4 years.
221 anon_8a3dc   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 5:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
anon_7ebb1 says
All the major Euro economies (France, Germany, Italy, UK) are literally in shamble...


Hilarious. Did you actually check your facts before posting that? 3 out of 4 of those countries have better ratios than the US, so does that mean the US is an utter shambles? Japan actually has by far the highest ratio and Bangladesh one of the lowest, so let’s just say you might be better served finding a different barometer for what indicates a country being a shambles.
222 joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 5:31pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick, can you just ban the anonymous posting feature? Even with the increment values, it's being abused.
223 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 5:33pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

joshuatrio says
Patrick, can you just ban the anonymous posting feature? Even with the increment values, it's being abused.


Why is it being abused? The comment above is spot on accurate. If anyone is abusing logic and reason, it's Goran for insisting that Germany's economy is in shambles. Ever drive a Mercedes or a BMW or a Volkswagon? What a wreck that place is!!
224 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 7, 5:34pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
errc says
Never Leftism...not even once.
But never voted Republican, ever.
But only open to the possibility of criticizing Democrats

It’s either the Politically Conflicted Party, or just Republican as hell but ashamed to own it


Goran is the reason that polls oversample Dems (according to piggy). But pollsters aren't as stupid as him so they know that there are a lot of folks like Goran who pretend to be independent or Libertarian because they think it's cooler than simply saying they vote a straight R ticket every 4 years.


Stop mislabeling him!

This is the reason he can’t share his special ideas with anyone!

You liberals are so mean and violent that he needs to remind you, if you poke fun at the lack of ideas, he’ll go grab his bullets!!
225 anon_8a3dc   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 5:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

errc says
anon_8a3dc says
I think you need to decide which one you are, or does it change depending on the needs of your argument?


Never Leftism...not even once.
But never voted Republican, ever.
But only open to the possibility of criticizing Democrats

It’s either the Politically Conflicted Party, or just Republican as hell but ashamed to own it

My comment was directed at Gorman. He started the thread banging on about being libertarian and then posted that comment about youth/conservative/luckily. I was just making the point that Inwas unaware libertarian actually meant conservative.
226 joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 5:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says
Why is it being abused? The comment above is spot on accurate.


Trying to distinguish different anon values across multiple threads gets old.

If people really want to comment, a profile and an avatar do wonders on conversational forums. The anonymous feature (imo) take the community feel out of a forum.

For that matter, I really could give two shits if the comment was spot on or not, I just don't like the anon12345 feature. My 2 cents.
227 anon_8a3dc   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 5:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Sorry, Goran. Auto correct...
228 anon_8a3dc   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 5:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Actually, were you just summarizing Goran’s political stance? It’s so hard on the internet sometimes to get the thrust of someone’s post.
229 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 7, 5:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

anon_8a3dc says
Actually, were you just summarizing Goran’s political stance? It’s so hard on the internet sometimes to get the thrust of someone’s post.


Yes
230 anon_8a3dc   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 5:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

errc says
anon_8a3dc says
Actually, were you just summarizing Goran’s political stance? It’s so hard on the internet sometimes to get the thrust of someone’s post.


Yes

Obvious in retrospect. Skim reading...
231 anon_8a3dc   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 5:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

So is Goran a moderator now? I have to say that I also don’t find him to be the best possible candidate. Mind, I don’t think anyone on here is given the seemingly arbitrary nature of the position as it stands. May as well go the whole hog and make CiC a moderator for the trolling section. Actually...
232 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 7, 5:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

joshuatrio says
iwog says
Why is it being abused? The comment above is spot on accurate.


Trying to distinguish different anon values across multiple threads gets old.

If people really want to comment, a profile and an avatar do wonders on conversational forums. The anonymous feature (imo) take the community feel out of a forum.

For that matter, I really could give two shits if the comment was spot on or not, I just don't like the anon12345 feature. My 2 cents.


I can see that, if you value the messenger more than the message, but if that’s the case, why not just stick to Facebook?

Anonymous is a force filter, that takes away the ability to poison the well with preconceived notions you hold about a poster. It forces you to only focus on the message. It castrates the trolls because no personal attacks. Not to mention, with all the people whinging about how they have great ideas, but they’re unable to share them because they don’t exist, I mean, because violent leftists are suppressing their free speech, problem solved
233 mell   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 6:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says
If anyone is abusing logic and reason, it's Goran for insisting that Germany's economy is in shambles.


They are doing relatively well, but the common worker or retiree may not (pension payments are paltry). There are no big infrastructure breakdowns yet, nice cars and things are still mostly working. However they have taken on a lot of debt and too many refugees and criminal immigrants. There are parts were police has partially lost control and were the nice picture falls apart. Generally still a great country to live in if you pick the right city, but I'd say its state is in between Goran's and yours characterization.
234 WookieMan   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 6:42pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joshuatrio says


Trying to distinguish different anon values across multiple threads gets old.

If people really want to comment, a profile and an avatar do wonders on conversational forums. The anonymous feature (imo) take the community feel out of a forum.

I agree, but Patrick is trying to grow more users. Some people unfortunately don't want to stand by their word. I don't like anonymous users as much as the next person, but you can at least see their history now. While I didn't and don't like using the ignore feature, anonymous users, that are abusing the site are much easier to spot now. There was a good two week span before Patrick banned (not 100% sure he went through with this) China because of the shit that was coming from there. Much of it through anonymous users.

So if Patrick wants to have anonymous users, there's at least some flexibility on our end to ignore and avoid. Quite honestly, I hope some of these pussies come out from behind anonymous and create usernames and have avatars. It's an online forum where you can easily create a burner email account and have nothing personal linked to this forum. So not sure why so many are afraid to just set up a username.

I was a proponent of adding the gibberish at the end, where previously (for a short while) there was just "anonymous" as users. 100 different people were the same username. Bots, trolls, Rhodes Scholars, etc were all the same user. That sucked. That said, assuming they're unique new users, there does seem to be a few more people chiming in. So I'm cool with the experiment. We'll see. I have some fun here, learn a few new things, but we do need more people here. Rambling over.
235 anon_8a3dc   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 7:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

mell says
iwog says
If anyone is abusing logic and reason, it's Goran for insisting that Germany's economy is in shambles.


They are doing relatively well, but the common worker or retiree may not (pension payments are paltry). There are no big infrastructure breakdowns yet, nice cars and things are still mostly working. However they have taken on a lot of debt and too many refugees and criminal immigrants. There are parts were police has partially lost control and were the nice picture falls apart. Generally still a great country to live in if you pick the right city, but I'd say its state is in between Goran's and yours characterization.


It’s strange that you seem to consider Germany’s debt an issue - Germany has a ratio of 68.3 as of Dec 2016, while the US figure stands at 106.1. You must be beside yourself with concern about the levels for the US. Are tax hikes on the wealthy your number one priority?
236 Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 7:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_8a3dc says
It’s strange that you seem to consider Germany’s debt an issue - Germany has a ratio of 68.3 as of Dec 2016, while the US figure stands at 106.1. You must be beside yourself with concern about the levels for the US. Are tax hikes on the wealthy your number one priority?


The German economy is very well managed. They are considered the locomotive engine of Europe. It's the other EU countries like Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal that are basket cases. The unfortunate Germans have to keep bailing them out.
237 anon_8a3dc   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 7:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Strategist says
anon_8a3dc says
It’s strange that you seem to consider Germany’s debt an issue - Germany has a ratio of 68.3 as of Dec 2016, while the US figure stands at 106.1. You must be beside yourself with concern about the levels for the US. Are tax hikes on the wealthy your number one priority?


The German economy is very well managed. They are considered the locomotive engine of Europe. It's the other EU countries like Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal that are basket cases. The unfortunate Germans have to keep bailing them out.

Cherry picking other countries when the country being singled out was Germany doesn’t bolster your argument.
238 Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 7:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joshuatrio says
For that matter, I really could give two shits if the comment was spot on or not, I just don't like the anon12345 feature. My 2 cents.


What if I just go back to generating random combinations of words for non-registered users, like WineHorror or CatClimber?

Those would be easier to remember, and the anon user would still not have to enter an email address (which is a big impediment to getting new users).
239 Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 7:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

WookieMan says
Patrick banned (not 100% sure he went through with this) China because of the shit that was coming from there


China is still banned. And it worked. That robot "oil" and his many aliases can no longer post.
240 WookieMan   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 7:51pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick says
China is still banned. And it worked. That robot "oil" and his many aliases can no longer post.

Boom! Digital high 5.

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