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New: moderators per topic

By Patrick following x   2017 Nov 5, 7:59pm 17,462 views   767 comments   watch   quote     share    


At the suggestion of the late Turtledove I'm trying to separate the site into distinct topics with a moderator for each topic.
#patnet

The first moderator is Iwog, who is in charge of Investing.

Currently, the only power a moderator has is ability to delete comments in that topic. But soon (like within the next week) I hope to implement these other abilities:

ability to delete whole posts in the topic
set or edit "About ${topic}" page
acceptance or rejection of posts waiting for moderation in topic
acceptance or rejection of comments waiting for moderation in topic
ability to free jailed comments in topic
user blacklist by ip or username for that topic
user whitelist for that topic (only those users would be allowed to comment)
ability to set a background image for the topic, and color scheme
ability to set up own donation link for the work

Anyone care to moderate a specific topic? @Dan8267 would you like #scitech or #science?

#patnet

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321 Onvacation   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 12:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

jazz_music says

You win. Enjoy your prize. MAGA

Thank you. Thank you very much.

I was just making the point that Iwog often accuses others of what he does all the time.

And the ideal temp is an important question to expose the climate change fraud.
322 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 12:13pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Onvacation says
I was just making the point that Iwog often accuses others of what he does all the time.


Except you're lying about it. You're a troll and you are what makes this place a shithole.

That question of yours has been answered ad nauseam over and over again by at least 3 people and the fact you come back and lie about it again and again.

Patrick I know it's a chore however if the final arbitrator of who is screwing up the form rests on you, you're going to have to do things like go back and look at the discussion and see who's wantonly lying.

Right now the trolls run the board.
323 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 12:16pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote        

These are NOT personality conflicts. These are QUANTIFIABLE differences in the people who are here to troll and the people who are here to have a discussion.
324 Onvacation   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 12:18pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says

I answered you with about 5 paragraphs.

A temperature does not require paragraphs.
If you alarmists can measure the world average temp and know that it is catastrophically rising why can't you commit to an ideal average temp? Dan did before he disappeared.
This is way off topic but it does illustrate Iwog's dishonesty.
325 KimJongUn   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 12:19pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

@Patrick, is it in line with your vision when moderator of #investing forum deliberately starts political thread in #investing instead of #politics in order to control the narrative (not my assesement - his own admission)?
326 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 12:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote        

KimJongUn says
@Patrick, is it in line with your vision when moderator of #investing forum deliberately starts political thread in #investing instead of #politics in order to control the narrative (not my assesement - his own admission)?


I think you're seeing a demonstration of what happens to a thread when the trolls are prevented from trolling.

They go haywire and desperately attempt to stop the moderation.

I'd like to continue with this experiment, in fact if Patrick would let me moderate the entire board for a week, you'd see an amazing change.
327 KimJongUn   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 12:24pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says

I think you're seeing a demonstration of what happens to a thread when the trolls are prevented from trolling.


All I see is an abuse of moderatorial power. You were given the permission to moderate #investing subforum, not to turn it into #iwog.net on the day one.
328 Onvacation   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 12:25pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

@patrick
Why not sell patnet to Iwog? He can make it the safe space he desires to rule over with an iron fist and you can have some cash to start a new free speech site.
329 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 12:27pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote        

Onvacation says
He can make it the safe space he desires


I'm not looking for a safe space. I'm looking to have some intelligent moderation so when you lie your ass off, there can be some accountability.

Honestly for this site to start to attract reasonable people again, a lot of you pure trolls need to leave. THAT'S the secret formula and it's why y'all are wailing and gnashing your teeth.

I want one fucking thread to moderate in politics and look at how much misery and screaming and complaining and crying it has caused.
330 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 12:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

KimJongUn says
All I see is an abuse of moderatorial power. You were given the permission to moderate #investing subforum, not to turn it into #iwog.net on the day one.


I have 35 followers on this board. Next is Patrick with 22 and the next after that is APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch with just 9.

I haven't played this card before but now that Patrick is testing moderation, I'd like a little deference to be shown to me on this issue.
331 zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 12:31pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

When I comment about how Iwog is misusing the investing tag in a political thread, he deletes that comment pretty quickly. I didn't even write anything political!

That's Iwog censorship.
332 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 12:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote        

zzyzzx says
When I comment about how Iwog is misusing the investing tag in a political thread, he deletes that comment pretty quickly. I didn't even write anything political!


One of Patrick's rules is stay on topic. I'm actually trying to do this. Consider this an experiment in cleaning up the board starting with a single thread.

What SHOULD be talked about here is the actual TOPIC which for 10 fucking months has been "DA POLLS ARE ALL LIBERAL!!!!" and then when one giant data point appears contradicting this, none of you want to talk about it.
333 Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 1:02pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick says
errc says
What do you want from the site at this point?


Just civil productive conversation.


Not possible. You have posters that factually lie, you have several trolls who complain they are not trolls, you have posters so lock step in political line with the major parties that they rarely concede even when they are factually incorrect, and you’ve given the sites alpha troll the keys to the hen house.

You can kick ten prominent posters off, or you can remove the forums.
334 jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 1:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Onvacation says
This is way off topic but it does illustrate Iwog's dishonesty.

No it doesn't.

iwog says
there can be some accountability.

Some consequences other that you win MAGA. Lies are prevailing here by repetition and consensus.
335 Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 1:07pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

KimJongUn says
@Patrick, is it in line with your vision when moderator of #investing forum deliberately starts political thread in #investing instead of #politics in order to control the narrative (not my assesement - his own admission)?


No, I don't like this.

I'm going to have separate topics, and only a small number of them. Misplaced posts will be moved to the relevant topic.

Pity that I have a job. I wish I could do this all faster.
337 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 1:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Trolls win again.
338 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 1:17pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (5)     quote        

Patrick, you're taking all your advice from the absolute worst people on the board.

If you want to know why the site participation is declining, that's why.
339 anon_48a09   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 1:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says
If you want to know why the site participation is declining, that's why.


Who has left?
340 Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 2:13pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick says
No, I don't like this.

I'm going to have separate topics, and only a small number of them. Misplaced posts will be moved to the relevant topic.

Pity that I have a job. I wish I could do this all faster.


I am pretty busy during the day, but I'm willing to help categorize topics if you write the front end to do so.
341 Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 2:16pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says
Patrick, you're taking all your advice from the absolute worst people on the board.


You're either joking or just blind. The only one who has abused their moderating power (or even moderated anything) is you. Look in the mirror.
342 Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 2:31pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
iwog says
Patrick, you're taking all your advice from the absolute worst people on the board.


You're either joking or just blind. The only one who has abused their moderating power (or even moderated anything) is you. Look in the mirror.


This is absolute truth.

First action as s mod is to create a political thread in an investing forum.

Encyclopedia Dramatica definition of a troll.
343 jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 2:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Fucking White Male says
Encyclopedia Dramatica definition of a troll.

Iwog has invested too much time battling trolls. But his comments are steadfastly well conceived.
345 Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 2:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Anyone else interested in moderating #investing?

@BellinghamBill ?
346 Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 2:58pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says
Patrick deserves to have the site he wants. I would never claim to suggest that he needs to follow my suggestions.

That being said, I sadly must join Dan and abandon the website to the trolls. They can have their circle jerk now and Goran deserves the job. He's a lying vile piece of shit and he'll fit right in. The only reason I stuck around was because Patrick emailed me and asked me to moderate, however I'm going to decline that now because having Goran moderate the politics forum is untenable and despite several well-liked people agreeing with me, I guess he's here to stay.

Peace everyone.


Sorry to see you go after so many years. Have a good life man.
347 anon_e5778   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 3:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

I'm disgusted by how this was handled. People might have disagreed with iwog but he was arguably the most followed and most popular person on the board by far. I don't know what's going on but I think I'm done also.
348 Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 3:02pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

anon_e5778 says
I'm disgusted by how this was handled. People might have disagreed with iwog but he was arguably the most followed and most popular person on the board by far. I don't know what's going on but I think I'm done also.


Bye Iwog.
349 anon_7c0c9   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 3:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
Bye Iwog.


One more troll for the road eh? Sorry to disappoint you buddy but I think theres gonna be a few more gone by the end of the day.
350 joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 3:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

I agree. If the trolls are going to win, them I think I'm done as well.

It's too bad-I learned a lot from the likes of Iwog, Bellingham Bill, Bob, and even Nomograph back in the day.
351 Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 3:07pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

anon_7c0c9 says
One more troll for the road eh? Sorry to disappoint you buddy but I think theres gonna be a few more gone by the end of the day.


Will your "wife" and "son" also be leaving Iwog?
352 Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 3:30pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

iwog says
Patrick deserves to have the site he wants. I would never claim to suggest that he needs to follow my suggestions.

That being said, I sadly must join Dan and abandon the website to the trolls. They can have their circle jerk now and Goran deserves the job. He's a lying vile piece of shit and he'll fit right in.



Ah one of your more hypocritical moments. Patrick states he wants Civil discussion and this is your response.
353 Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 3:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Goran_K says
anon_7c0c9 says
One more troll for the road eh? Sorry to disappoint you buddy but I think theres gonna be a few more gone by the end of the day.


Will your "wife" and "son" also be leaving Iwog?



Lololol!
354 Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 3:32pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
I agree. If the trolls are going to win, them I think I'm done as well.

It's too bad-I learned a lot from the likes of Iwog, Bellingham Bill, Bob, and even Nomograph back in the day.


Your not done until the DNC says you are.
355 Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 3:33pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

jazz_music says
Fucking White Male says
Encyclopedia Dramatica definition of a troll.

Iwog has invested too much time battling trolls. But his comments are steadfastly well conceived.


If you can’t see that IWOG IS the troll...
356 jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 3:39pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

I've been sticking up a lot here for iwog, I'd do it for Dan, marcus and a few others too, because I've enjoyed their comments and marveled at iwog's skills in rational argument.

I'm been done here with the grown up stuff. Pretty much for some time now. I might look for shits and giggles sake, but nothing serious.

I'm sure done submitting myself for taunts by some of the worst pricks ever. I don't know why I never got around to putting Goran_K, KimJongUn, Onvacation on ignore.

Jackasses have to keep changing their names to get an audience.
357 RC2006   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 3:44pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Jeeze Iwog, we got on here almost the same time. Bailing after a long run, would be better to just understand that the thread you made was wrong and flew in the face of the whole moderator attempt.
358 Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 3:56pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

This might be the biggest meltdown I've ever witnessed on a forum. I'm really surprised at how fast Iwog went off the deep end. TDS really does exist.
359 Strategist   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 3:58pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Politics on Patnet is worse than politics in Washington DC.
They should make a Netflix serial out of Patnet.
360 Sniper   ignore (7)   2017 Nov 8, 4:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_e5778 says
I'm disgusted by how this was handled. People might have disagreed with iwog but he was arguably the most followed and most popular person on the board by far. I don't know what's going on but I think I'm done also.


After one total post, you are going to leave?

So sad.

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