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New: moderators per topic

By anonymous following x   2017 Nov 5, 7:59pm 27,358 views   767 comments   watch   quote     share    


At the suggestion of the late Turtledove I'm trying to separate the site into distinct topics with a moderator for each topic.
#patnet

The first moderator is Iwog, who is in charge of Investing.

Currently, the only power a moderator has is ability to delete comments in that topic. But soon (like within the next week) I hope to implement these other abilities:

ability to delete whole posts in the topic
set or edit "About ${topic}" page
acceptance or rejection of posts waiting for moderation in topic
acceptance or rejection of comments waiting for moderation in topic
ability to free jailed comments in topic
user blacklist by ip or username for that topic
user whitelist for that topic (only those users would be allowed to comment)
ability to set a background image for the topic, and color scheme
ability to set up own donation link for the work

Anyone care to moderate a specific topic? @Dan8267 would you like #scitech or #science?

#patnet

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321   Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 1:02pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
errc says
What do you want from the site at this point?


Just civil productive conversation.


Not possible. You have posters that factually lie, you have several trolls who complain they are not trolls, you have posters so lock step in political line with the major parties that they rarely concede even when they are factually incorrect, and you’ve given the sites alpha troll the keys to the hen house.

You can kick ten prominent posters off, or you can remove the forums.
322   jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 1:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Onvacation says
This is way off topic but it does illustrate Iwog's dishonesty.

No it doesn't.

iwog says
there can be some accountability.

Some consequences other that you win MAGA. Lies are prevailing here by repetition and consensus.
323   Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 1:07pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

KimJongUn says
@Patrick, is it in line with your vision when moderator of #investing forum deliberately starts political thread in #investing instead of #politics in order to control the narrative (not my assesement - his own admission)?


No, I don't like this.

I'm going to have separate topics, and only a small number of them. Misplaced posts will be moved to the relevant topic.

Pity that I have a job. I wish I could do this all faster.
324   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 1:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Trolls win again.
325   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 1:17pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (6)     quote      

Patrick, you're taking all your advice from the absolute worst people on the board.

If you want to know why the site participation is declining, that's why.
326   anon_48a09   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 1:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says
If you want to know why the site participation is declining, that's why.


Who has left?
327   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 2:13pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
No, I don't like this.

I'm going to have separate topics, and only a small number of them. Misplaced posts will be moved to the relevant topic.

Pity that I have a job. I wish I could do this all faster.


I am pretty busy during the day, but I'm willing to help categorize topics if you write the front end to do so.
328   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 2:16pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says
Patrick, you're taking all your advice from the absolute worst people on the board.


You're either joking or just blind. The only one who has abused their moderating power (or even moderated anything) is you. Look in the mirror.
329   Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 2:31pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Goran_K says
iwog says
Patrick, you're taking all your advice from the absolute worst people on the board.


You're either joking or just blind. The only one who has abused their moderating power (or even moderated anything) is you. Look in the mirror.


This is absolute truth.

First action as s mod is to create a political thread in an investing forum.

Encyclopedia Dramatica definition of a troll.
330   jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 2:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Fucking White Male says
Encyclopedia Dramatica definition of a troll.

Iwog has invested too much time battling trolls. But his comments are steadfastly well conceived.
331   Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 2:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Anyone else interested in moderating #investing?

@BellinghamBill ?
332   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 2:58pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says
Patrick deserves to have the site he wants. I would never claim to suggest that he needs to follow my suggestions.

That being said, I sadly must join Dan and abandon the website to the trolls. They can have their circle jerk now and Goran deserves the job. He's a lying vile piece of shit and he'll fit right in. The only reason I stuck around was because Patrick emailed me and asked me to moderate, however I'm going to decline that now because having Goran moderate the politics forum is untenable and despite several well-liked people agreeing with me, I guess he's here to stay.

Peace everyone.


Sorry to see you go after so many years. Have a good life man.
333   anon_e5778   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 3:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I'm disgusted by how this was handled. People might have disagreed with iwog but he was arguably the most followed and most popular person on the board by far. I don't know what's going on but I think I'm done also.
334   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 3:02pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

anon_e5778 says
I'm disgusted by how this was handled. People might have disagreed with iwog but he was arguably the most followed and most popular person on the board by far. I don't know what's going on but I think I'm done also.


Bye Iwog.
335   anon_7c0c9   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 8, 3:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Goran_K says
Bye Iwog.


One more troll for the road eh? Sorry to disappoint you buddy but I think theres gonna be a few more gone by the end of the day.
336   joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 3:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I agree. If the trolls are going to win, them I think I'm done as well.

It's too bad-I learned a lot from the likes of Iwog, Bellingham Bill, Bob, and even Nomograph back in the day.
337   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 3:07pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

anon_7c0c9 says
One more troll for the road eh? Sorry to disappoint you buddy but I think theres gonna be a few more gone by the end of the day.


Will your "wife" and "son" also be leaving Iwog?
338   Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 3:30pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says
Patrick deserves to have the site he wants. I would never claim to suggest that he needs to follow my suggestions.

That being said, I sadly must join Dan and abandon the website to the trolls. They can have their circle jerk now and Goran deserves the job. He's a lying vile piece of shit and he'll fit right in.



Ah one of your more hypocritical moments. Patrick states he wants Civil discussion and this is your response.
339   Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 3:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Goran_K says
anon_7c0c9 says
One more troll for the road eh? Sorry to disappoint you buddy but I think theres gonna be a few more gone by the end of the day.


Will your "wife" and "son" also be leaving Iwog?



Lololol!
340   Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 3:32pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

joeyjojojunior says
I agree. If the trolls are going to win, them I think I'm done as well.

It's too bad-I learned a lot from the likes of Iwog, Bellingham Bill, Bob, and even Nomograph back in the day.


Your not done until the DNC says you are.
341   Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 3:33pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

jazz_music says
Fucking White Male says
Encyclopedia Dramatica definition of a troll.

Iwog has invested too much time battling trolls. But his comments are steadfastly well conceived.


If you can’t see that IWOG IS the troll...
342   jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 3:39pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

I've been sticking up a lot here for iwog, I'd do it for Dan, marcus and a few others too, because I've enjoyed their comments and marveled at iwog's skills in rational argument.

I'm been done here with the grown up stuff. Pretty much for some time now. I might look for shits and giggles sake, but nothing serious.

I'm sure done submitting myself for taunts by some of the worst pricks ever. I don't know why I never got around to putting Goran_K, KimJongUn, Onvacation on ignore.

Jackasses have to keep changing their names to get an audience.
343   RC2006   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 3:44pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Jeeze Iwog, we got on here almost the same time. Bailing after a long run, would be better to just understand that the thread you made was wrong and flew in the face of the whole moderator attempt.
344   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 3:56pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

This might be the biggest meltdown I've ever witnessed on a forum. I'm really surprised at how fast Iwog went off the deep end. TDS really does exist.
345   Strategist   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 3:58pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Politics on Patnet is worse than politics in Washington DC.
They should make a Netflix serial out of Patnet.
346   anon_e5778   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 4:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

rpanic01 says
Jeeze Iwog, we got on here almost the same time. Bailing after a long run, would be better to just understand that the thread you made was wrong and flew in the face of the whole moderator attempt.


I don't think that's why he left. I think he left because Goran was put in charge of the politics threads which is something I still don't understand. Then Patrick invites Bill to do investing moderating without realizing that bill hates Gor even more than iwog does.

This is all really crazy and I think the guy who said this is about politics is on to something. IMO the most popular guy at patrick.net was treated like s***.
347   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 4:04pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Strategist says
Politics on Patnet is worse than politics in Washington DC.
They should make a Netflix serial out of Patnet.


Funny thing is, back when PatNet was just a housing website, Iwog was actually not that bad.

After Trump won the election, it's like Iwog lost his mind. Sad.
348   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 4:26pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sniper says
Iwog, is that you??


That was that guy's second post. Pretty clear Iwog hasn't "left".
349   Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 4:44pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

rpanic01 says
Jeeze Iwog, we got on here almost the same time. Bailing after a long run, would be better to just understand that the thread you made was wrong and flew in the face of the whole moderator attempt.


Yes, that.
350   Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 4:44pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

rpanic01 says
Jeeze Iwog, we got on here almost the same time. Bailing after a long run, would be better to just understand that the thread you made was wrong and flew in the face of the whole moderator attempt.


Troll 101 teaches that trolls never ever ever admit they are wrong.

Jazz music doesn’t actually understand what a troll is(nor does he understand that he’s an unintentional troll.

Oh btw, reading Pat.net got more enjoyable once i put Hey You on ignore.
351   anon_e5778   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 4:53pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Anyone else see the irony of cic of all people and the new political forum moderator being buddy-buddy and continue to troll iwog after he's gone?
352   anon_e5778   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 4:57pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
Yes, that.


So you just ignored the entire conversation all day about it being unacceptable for goran to moderate. An opinion expressed by several different long time members and now you think he left because you wouldn't let him run his own thread? What's going on here. I'm not kidding this is craziness.
353   Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 8, 5:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

anon_e5778 says
Patrick says
Yes, that.


So you just ignored the entire conversation all day about it being unacceptable for goran to moderate. An opinion expressed by several different long time members and now you think he left because you wouldn't let him run his own thread? What's going on here. I'm not kidding this is craziness.


The only craziness here is spewed by you anon.

Ba hahahaha!
354   TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 5:26pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Missed this thread. Anybody got a synopsis?
355   BlueSardine   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 5:36pm   ↑ like (7)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Libbies are ultrasensative people who are prone to wet the bed at the first sign of nonconformance...
TwoScoopsMcGee says
Missed this thread. Anybody got a synopsis?
356   anon_e5778   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 5:41pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

All I know is that a troll with no followers and no friends and a total Troll and liar was given the right to moderate the threads of the most popular and followed person on patrick.net.

Why did he leave? Who knows.
357   anon_e5778   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 5:43pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Oh sorry I forgot one bit. Then piggy and goran decided to troll iwog for over an hour after he left. Obviously without any moderation whatsoever. You can't make this stuff up.
358   anon_bfe40   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 5:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Goran_K says
anon_7c0c9 says
One more troll for the road eh? Sorry to disappoint you buddy but I think theres gonna be a few more gone by the end of the day.


Will your "wife" and "son" also be leaving Iwog?

He was perfectly transparent about that, but you just can’t help yourself, can you? I’ve been reading this forum for over 10 years, but I gave up on it a while ago and have just been checking In from time to time to see if things had improved. They haven’t. And for Patrick to make you a moderator clearly demonstrates that. This site is done. And the fact that two of the most prolific and interesting posters have left (and that coming from someone who disagreed with plenty that they said) clearly demonstrates that.
You’ve let in slide into an echo chamber of stupidity Patrick. Well done.
359   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 5:48pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Missed this thread. Anybody got a synopsis?

My take. A lot of the usual you see on most threads here. LOTS of everyone trying to piss on each other. iwogs out, done it appears with the forum. I also take from some of the comments that Dan and iwog may communicate on the outside and Dan called it quits a while back or iwog guessed at that.

We also had some other idiots feeding the frenzy the other way. Literally people arguing over nothing. No one was going to win, yet that was the outcome everyone wanted, a win. You CAN'T win in an online argument. It's impossible. Unfortunately idiots and smart people alike cannot figure this out. Sad.

Just the usual overall though. A bunch of grown men (maybe women) acting like complete and utter fags. Hopefully most the men will reattach their dicks at some point. FYI - this is directed a pretty much all the comments on this thread outside maybe a few.
360   anon_bfe40   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 5:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Goran_K says
This might be the biggest meltdown I've ever witnessed on a forum. I'm really surprised at how fast Iwog went off the deep end. TDS really does exist.

Don’t be ridiculous. This has been in the making a very long time for him and plenty of others, many of whom gave up long ago. But hey, well done. You’ve got a nice safe space where you can shout your inanities at one another without contradiction. You’ll be bored as shit in no time.

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