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NJ and Virginia Races

By TwoScoopsMcGee following x   2017 Nov 7, 1:56pm 710 views   63 comments   watch   quote     share  


Allegedly a test of Trump, but I doubt they mean anything.

1. VA is chock full of Government Bureaucrats commuting into DC, now outnumbering the rural parts of the State.
2. NJ is a solid blue state.

Clinton won both states.

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1 joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 1:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

lol--McGee turning into a political hack trying to reduce expectations before the results come in.

Well done.
2 YesYNot   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 2:04pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

VA is going to be much closer than I thought. VA is not as blue as people might think. It wasn't a lock in this election, and probably went Clinton as much as it did due to the anti-establishment nature of Trump's candidacy. I believe that Gillespie has done a good job playing up certain aspects of Trumpism without the Trump personality issues. He is also very establishment. It's probably going to be a close one. All that said, it will be a big black eye for the Dems if they cannot win VA with Trump polling as low as he is.
3 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 2:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
lol--McGee turning into a political hack trying to reduce expectations before the results come in.


Trump won married people, whites with and without college education. They used to be 92% of Virginia voters, but after neoliberal corporate wage crushing imports, only 67%.
4 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 2:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

YesYNot says
VA is going to be much closer than I thought. VA is not as blue as people might think. It wasn't a lock in this election, and probably went Clinton as much as it did due to the anti-establishment nature of Trump's candidacy. I believe that Gillespie has done a good job playing up certain aspects of Trumpism without the Trump personality issues. He is also very establishment. It's probably going to be a close one. All that said, it will be a big black eye for the Dems if they cannot win VA with Trump polling as low as he is.


From 538 to Larry Sabato to local polling by UVa, everybody had VA in the Hillary Camp.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/virginia/
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/7/uva-political-handicappers-predict-clinton-win/
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/virginia-election-forecast.html

The Dems only have 14 governorships out of 50 states.
5 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 7, 2:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

The Dems only have 14 governorships out of 50 states.

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With 72% of state governorships
100% control of Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches, why is it so hard for Republicans to get anything done?
And why do some people still blame anything on ‘libruls’?
6 anon_313db   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 2:23pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

errc says
With 72% of state governorships
100% control of Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches, why is it so hard for Republicans to get anything done?
And why do some people still blame anything on ‘libruls’?


They do what the AM talk radio says to do and hate what the AM radio says to hate. If they grew up in middle east, they would be perfect suicide bomber material.
7 theoakman   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 2:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

The dems have the NJ governorship locked up. Christie did some real damage here by not showing up to work for 8 straight years.
8 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 2:52pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

theoakman says
The dems have the NJ governorship locked up. Christie did some real damage here by not showing up to work for 8 straight years.


Nope, there's just more brain dead Dems than brain dead Repubs. Murphy is going to ram it up everyone's ass, and that's without KY.

NJ is fucked.
10 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 2:55pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Allegedly a test of Trump, but I doubt they mean anything.


Nah, Trump has no bearing on either one.

I'm more interested to see what the final outcome is versus what the polls were saying going in. Let's see if the polling companies learned anything after November.
11 YesYNot   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 4:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Turnout is up in VA race. That's a good sign for democrats.
12 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 4:28pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

If the democrats don't win both states, it's a shock.

Democrats have held 3/4 of VA gubernatorial seats so far this century. The NJ Candidate has a steep hill to climb in a deep blue state with an unpopular Christie leaving office.
13 APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   ignore (5)   2017 Nov 7, 4:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Poll snipers would have taken care of these races and delivered them to AMERICAN!s

FAIL!, AMERICA!
14 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 7, 4:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
If the democrats don't win both states, it's a shock.

Democrats have held 3/4 of VA gubernatorial seats so far this century. The NJ Candidate has a steep hill to climb in a deep blue state with an unpopular Christie leaving office.


Yea but Christie is a yuge Trump guy so the Republican should win bigly
15 theoakman   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 4:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Sniper says
theoakman says
The dems have the NJ governorship locked up. Christie did some real damage here by not showing up to work for 8 straight years.


Nope, there's just more brain dead Dems than brain dead Repubs. Murphy is going to ram it up everyone's ass, and that's without KY.

NJ is fucked.


That's not the reason. Christie was elected twice while the Dem base hated his guts. Most people are voting Murphy because he's not the same team as Christie.
16 joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 4:59pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

theoakman says
Christie was elected twice while the Dem base hated his guts.


Most Republicans despise Christie now.
17 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 5:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

If the Dems don't win by 5% or more, it's actually forecasts future trouble for them - Hillary won by 5 pts in Virginia.
18 joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 5:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Just called it. Northam

Looks like a big win

Guess all the NRA money wasn't enough
19 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 7, 5:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

joshuatrio says
theoakman says
Christie was elected twice while the Dem base hated his guts.


Most Republicans despise Christie now.


Like I said, he’s a Trumpublican.

Take a look at their base. Surprised that they’re easily duped, and sloooow to come around? Really?
20 joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 5:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

errc says

Take a look at their base. Surprised that they’re easily duped, and sloooow to come around? Really?


Christie actually appeared to do a good job at first. Then his lazy fat self got in the way and he turned into an entitled prick.

I'm actually pleased with Trump so far because he actually has a pair of nuts to say what's on his mind. Granted his tweets can be extreme :) After 8 years of Obama's political correctness, race baiting, identity politics etc... it's a nice change.

Only time will tell how Trump does long term.
21 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 7, 5:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Only time will tell how Trump does long term.

—————

Huh? You guys have been attributing Obamas economic momentum to Trump for over a year now (even though he hasn’t done anything)

There’s plenty a body of work to make a value judgment of him at this point
22 joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 7, 6:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

What's really amazing is the Virginia House--right now it looks like the Dems have a real shot at taking over the House which seemed impossible due to extreme gerrymandering. Very strong showing by Dems tonight.

It shows that the special election results from earlier in the year were pretty good foreshadowing for what was really going on in the electorate.
23 lostand confused   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 6:12pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Well he is slowly losing his base.
One with this whole Hilalry revelations-if he is not competent enough to appoint a special prosecutor after this much-I have no clue what he is doing-don't blame sessions.
2) He is beginning to cave on immigration-without anything in return-at this point negotiations-but if he does-he is toast.
24 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 7, 6:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Don’t blame Sessions for what?

Attempting to be Attorney General while perjuring himself over his meetings with the Russians?
25 anon_61c8a   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 6:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

The lol result is that a tranny won a seat. That will sting.
26 lostand confused   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 7, 6:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Hillary deleted her emails after a subpeona from congress-there is no if buts about that. it is time to get a special prosecutor and the uranium one.If not he is being incompetent-when he projected to be a fighter-punch back harder kinda guy. He tweets like an opposition candidadte-do something-you are the frigging President.
27 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 8:17pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

theoakman says
Most people are voting Murphy because he's not the same team as Christie.


That's true, he's a hell of a lot WORSE.

NJ just went to the Communists.
28 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 8:20pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
Just called it. Northam

Looks like a big win

Guess all the NRA money wasn't enough


Wrong.

The people in VA didn't want a GOPe as a governor.
29 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 7, 8:22pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joshuatrio says
Christie actually appeared to do a good job at first.


Christie had a Dem controlled legislature both terms. It's amazing he got anything accomplished.

Remember all the whiners here crying that Obama couldn't get anything done because he had a Repub congress? It's the same thing.
30 APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   ignore (5)   2017 Nov 8, 12:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

TRUMPLIGULA! is doubtless Annoyed.

So Annoyed HE! will have to hit NJ and VA with his purse!

Thank GOD! AMERICA! has a PLENIPOTENTIARY! with the resolve and love of country to MAGA!
31 joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 5:06am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Sniper says
joeyjojojunior says
Just called it. Northam

Looks like a big win

Guess all the NRA money wasn't enough


Wrong.

The people in VA didn't want a GOPe as a governor


I know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, but you agreed with my statement. So that makes me right, not wrong.

Sniper says
NJ just went to the Communists.


So, which is it piggy. Sometimes you post a weird picture stating both parties are the same, but then now you are saying Dems are Communists. Are both parties Communists then?
32 lostand confused   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 5:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

The dems had a good night. I don't know if this is a trend, but at soem point, trump needs to put up or shut up about Hilalry. He hired an incompetent Jeff sessions, deal with it. I am happy with TPP, NAFTA-will wait till I see the product of renegotiation etc.

But this whole Russian thing over nothing is incompetent that he allowed to get this far-when the real collusion is the dems and Hilalry paid 9 million to collude with the Russians. If you can't get her for that and uranium one while the swamp critters have made so much ado about you-well that does not inspire much confidence.

Immigration -he really cannot give away the store for nothing. Don't come on stage with people who lost kids to illegals and say you will fix it and then turn back on promises-hat is too much emotion-heart stuff.

Healthcare-am really looking for proposals and how to get them going.

Tax cuts-ok but really disappointed that there is no releif for 8 million Americans abroad from the draconian laws Obama enacted-while giving relief to corporations-that is what you ran for-helping middle class. At least try. Obama was nasty and that only affected individuals and small business-not coporations-for Trump to do the same is just not good.

Like oBama, my expectation at this point is he needs to get down and fix it. This is not a campaign anymore and it has almost been a year-don't be tweeting about the justice dept-when it reports to you-did you forgot that is atty general you appointed?

I still like him when compared to the stupid dems who scream like banashees and have no idea, except mass immigration, feminazism etc. I weas beginning to like the dem candidate for Gov in IL and now he starts about not deporting illegals, Obamacare support and I am like -wtf. I just don't know why dems can't be logical and discuss the millions of men who are affected by divorce and child support, the hopeless, the foreign dwellers and be America first-always some ism, with them -illogical loons. Oh and higehr taxes and public sector unions are Kings and not public servants.

It is ok to get stuck and fail, but you have to recognize and change tactics-the issues that trump ran on are still valid and carry a lot of resonance and he needs to man up and get things done. Like my expectations on OBmaa-you knew what you were getting into-don't blame the dems or RINOs or justice dept for not getting things done-that is so Obama the annointed one. lets see if he has some tactics ahead ? If he doesn't change and get things doen and explain to people, I predict the stupid dems will egt elected, because the base stays awaya nd then it will be Rosie O'Donnel enslaving men and making them pull her buggy in central park.
33 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 8, 7:18am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
Wrong.

The people in VA didn't want a GOPe as a governor


I know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, but you agreed with my statement. So that makes me right, not wrong.


Joey the TROLL, I know you're a little bit slow on most topics, but I'll try and explain it to you. VA Repub voters didn't want a NeverTrumper and member of the GOPe as a governor, they wanted CHANGE, like they got with Trump. Gillespie was vocal about NOT supporting Trump, he paid the price for it. He lost by a bigger margin then Trump did in the general.
34 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 8, 7:20am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
Sniper says
NJ just went to the Communists.


So, which is it piggy. Sometimes you post a weird picture stating both parties are the same, but then now you are saying Dems are Communists. Are both parties Communists then?


Joey the TROLL, are you really this stupid or does it take years of training? You should really hold off on posting in the morning until you get your first two cups of coffee in you.
35 joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 7:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Sniper says
Joey the TROLL, I know you're a little bit slow on most topics, but I'll try and explain it to you. VA Repub voters didn't want a NeverTrumper and member of the GOPe as a governor, they wanted CHANGE, like they got with Trump. Gillespie was vocal about NOT supporting Trump, he paid the price for it. He lost by a bigger margin then Trump did in the general.


Perhaps. And that agrees with my statements that Northam won. And the NRA money wasn't enough to help Republicans.

If you persist in disagreeing, please tell me what is wrong with the above statements.
36 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 8, 7:22am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

lostand confused says
The dems had a good night.


No they didn't. They won in areas where they were expected to win. Nothing to see here. There were no "surprises" in any of them.
37 joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 8, 7:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Sniper says
No they didn't. They won in areas where they were expected to win. Nothing to see here. There were no "surprises" in any of them.


lol---you must be kidding. The Virginia House turning blue is a HUGE surprise.

The Georgia districts flipping blue was a big surprise. It was a blue wave yesterday.

You know it was a good night for Dems when McGee is silent during election returns. And when Gillespe underperforms even McGee's drastically lowered expectations.
38 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 8, 7:41am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
lol---you must be kidding. The Virginia House turning blue is a HUGE surprise.


Really?

The polls had Gillespe ahead all the time? Can you please post those polls, it wasn't what I was seeing.
39 Rew   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 8, 7:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

There were many candidates running on Neo-confederate Trumpisim: aka protect the statues and the other candidate wants MS-13 to come rape your daughter.

They all lost.

The Dems unseated a lost cause seat by 68 votes. 68 votes in deep red territory! Watch for voter suppression moves and calls of bused in fake votes now.

If you don't think this is a backlash against Trump, you are not paying attention.

Trump himself losing? He did that when he was sworn in. Inevitable. This is a Greek tragedy.
40 Tenpoundbass   ignore (7)   2017 Nov 8, 7:51am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
but I doubt they mean anything.


No please let them go on. NPR said this morning.
"They won on a Anti Trump message. Should the Democrats reinforce that message in the 2018 elections?"

To which I say God Yes! Please!

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