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Should we institute temp bans?

By anonymous following x   2017 Nov 11, 8:05am 2,850 views   103 comments   watch   quote     share    


#patnet

So far I think the new rules are working. The deleting of personal attacks seems to be working a lot better than “uncivil”.

However certain members are still having a hard time understanding the new rule. I’ve had to delete 5 straight personal attacks from errrc.

Should we institute a 24 hour ban for repeated offenses? Like being deleted 3-4 times and warned with no improvement?

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1   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 11, 8:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

How about permanent bans.
2   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:11am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Errrc why are you acting this way ?
3   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:15am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

That may be true but the new PatNet is about debating ideas not individuals. If I’m a liar, attack my point, not me. Then I won’t be forced to delete your stuff and you’ll be less angry overall.

Excessive anger and stress has been linked to increased risk of stroke.
4   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:25am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

@Patrick

Suggestions?
5   anon_25c83   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 11, 8:28am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (5)     quote      

Goran_K says
@Patrick

Suggestions?


My suggestion is that you be removed as a moderator. This is a civil comment so lets see what you do with it.
6   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_25c83 says
Goran_K says
@Patrick

Suggestions?


My suggestion is that you be removed as a moderator. This is a civil comment so lets see what you do with it.


That’s fine. How have I failed as a moderator? Shouldn’t promotions or conversely demotions be based on performance?
7   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Nov 11, 8:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

The greatest personal attack: PATNETTER!
8   anon_25c83   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 11, 8:32am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (6)     quote      

Goran_K says
That’s fine. How have I failed as a moderator?


No one respects you. You have so many enemies that you are going to become the topic of every conversation. What was written above is a great example. This is why you should be removed.
9   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:34am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_25c83 says
Goran_K says
That’s fine. How have I failed as a moderator?


No one respects you. You have so many enemies that you are going to become the topic of every conversation. What was written above is a great example. This is why you should be removed.


But so far I’ve not moderated anything unfairly, correct?
10   anon_25c83   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 11, 8:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

the fact you asked tat question proves you don't even know what I'm talking about.
11   anon_d2af7   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

Goran_K says
That’s fine. How have I failed as a moderator? Shouldn’t promotions or conversely demotions be based on performance?

You're already trying to implement bans on people who clearly don't like you. More laughable to me, is you making an appeal to attack your points. People do that and have done that on so many occasions I've lost count. When do you ever respond? You do exactly what Iwog said you do. We all know it, and that's why a good number of us don't respect you and don't want you as moderator.
This site is over basically. Patrick may as well just pull the plug for all the difference it makes now.
12   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 11, 8:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Goran_K says
anon_25c83 says
Goran_K says
That’s fine. How have I failed as a moderator?


No one respects you. You have so many enemies that you are going to become the topic of every conversation. What was written above is a great example. This is why you should be removed.


But so far I’ve not moderated anything unfairly, correct?


Yea you keep deleting my posts. They are SFW at my job
13   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:39am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_d2af7 says
Goran_K says
That’s fine. How have I failed as a moderator? Shouldn’t promotions or conversely demotions be based on performance?

You're already trying to implement bans on people who clearly don't like you. More laughable to me, is you making an appeal to attack your points. People do that and have done that on so many occasions I've lost count. When do you ever respond? You do exactly what Iwog said you do. We all know it, and that's why a good number of us don't respect you and don't want you as moderator.
This site is over basically. Patrick may as well just pull the plug for all the difference it makes now.

So nothing moderated unfairly?

I thought so.
14   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:39am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

errc says
Goran_K says
anon_25c83 says
Goran_K says
That’s fine. How have I failed as a moderator?


No one respects you. You have so many enemies that you are going to become the topic of every conversation. What was written above is a great example. This is why you should be removed.


But so far I’ve not moderated anything unfairly, correct?


Yea you keep deleting my posts. They are SFW at my job


Your post are not SFW when they are asking others to “suck their dick”. Keep it clean and I won’t delete them.
15   anon_25c83   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 11, 8:41am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

You create a thread asking patrick to give you more power over other users and you wonder why people hate you so much.
16   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:44am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_25c83 says
You create a thread asking patrick to give you more power over other users and you wonder why people hate you so much.


I’m not asking for power. It could be automated. If you make 4-5 straight deleted attacks then you automatically get say a 12 hour ban to “cool off”. Then 24 hours, then 3 days. Then if it continues the account could be permenantly disabled. This is not a new system when it comes to discussion websites.
17   anon_b67e3   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (4)     quote      

Goran_K says
So nothing moderated unfairly?

I thought so.

As always you completely dodge the points raised. Paint me unsurprised.
18   anon_25c83   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 11, 8:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Let me explain the psychology of a bully. A bully doesn't want to get rid of his victims. A bully wants torment. You want the power to temp ban people when they piss you off. It will give you pleasure.
19   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:47am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

In the end I’m trying to get the discussions way more civil. The new rules seem to be working. The recent threads have been much more readable in terms of content.
20   anon_b67e3   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Goran_K says
If you make 4-5 straight deleted attacks then you automatically get say a 12 hour ban to “cool off”

Yeah, yeah, and guess who's doing the deleting.
21   Onvacation   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:49am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_25c83 says
Let me explain the psychology of a bully. A bully doesn't want to get rid of his victims. A bully wants torment. You want the power to temp ban people when they piss you off. It will give you pleasure.

Iwog, is that you?
22   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_b67e3 says
Goran_K says
If you make 4-5 straight deleted attacks then you automatically get say a 12 hour ban to “cool off”

Yeah, yeah, and guess who's doing the deleting.


Patrick, zzyzzx, Wookie and myself. Doesn’t seem like anyone is debating that the deleted content has not been justly nuked.
23   anon_b67e3   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

Goran_K says
Patrick, zzyzzx, Wookie and myself. Doesn’t seem like anyone is debating that the deleted content has not been justly nuked.

You're doing the deleting in the most visited thread. Many of the people on here don't like you and you know it. And now you're asking for people to be banned after YOU've deleted them. Let's just say I'm unimpressed by your sincerity or intentions.
24   Onvacation   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:57am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_b67e3 says
Let's just say I'm unimpressed by your sincerity or intentions.


Iwog, is that you?

All these anons make it confusing.
25   anon_b67e3   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

Onvacation says
Iwog, is that you?

All these anons make it confusing.

No, but why don't you try a new line of posting as that one is getting pretty damn tired?
26   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Nov 11, 9:00am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

All patnetters are on Time Out for one hour,maybe this will allow you to realize you are not a genius & are stuck in your value system.

It took me 68 years.
27   anon_b67e3   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:01am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

Goran_K says
The recent threads have been much more readable in terms of content.

Hilarious. It's been dead, and it's just the usual suspects posting up a couple of their usual baseless love-ins of Trump.
28   Onvacation   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:04am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_b67e3 says
baseless love-ins of Trump.

I for one do not love Trump.
But we did dodge the Hillary bullet.
29   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:06am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_b67e3 says
Goran_K says
The recent threads have been much more readable in terms of content.

Hilarious. It's been dead, and it's just the usual suspects posting up a couple of their usual baseless love-ins of Trump.


But you’re back here checking and seeing the new and improved PatNet.
30   anon_b67e3   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

Goran_K says
But your back here checking and seeing the new and improved PatNet.

Dropping in in exactly the same way people slow down to see a car crash you mean. PatNet is not improved with you as a moderator. It's lost 2, possibly more, of its most interesting posters, and is now utterly dominated by trolls and Trump apologists unwilling to support their claims with any kind of reasoned debate. Improved indeed, but only in your imagination.
31   anon_25c83   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 11, 9:13am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Goran_K says
But you’re back here checking and seeing the new and improved PatNet.


Haha I'm another iwog! iwogs all over the place haunting your dreams.
32   anon_b67e3   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:14am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Onvacation says
anon_b67e3 says
baseless love-ins of Trump.

I for one do not love Trump.
But we did dodge the Hillary bullet.

Haven't you got some fact free nonsense to post about climate change?
33   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:15am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Goran_K says
Patrick, zzyzzx, Wookie and myself. Doesn’t seem like anyone is debating that the deleted content has not been justly nuked.

I haven't deleted anything just so everyone knows. I can only do that in housing and will give warnings so everyone can see my moderation tactics, if I even use moderation. It's pretty dead over there in housing, nothing like politics, so we'll see. Site definitely has shifted from it's original purpose, as most of you already know. So my job is not too intensive at this point.
34   anon_ded1e   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:19am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_25c83 says
Goran_K says
That’s fine. How have I failed as a moderator?


No one respects you. You have so many enemies that you are going to become the topic of every conversation. What was written above is a great example. This is why you should be removed.


Iwog, you really need to stop with the FALSE allegations. Haven't you learned yet?
35   anon_b67e3   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Onvacation says
anon_b67e3 says
baseless love-ins of Trump.

I for one do not love Trump.
But we did dodge the Hillary bullet.

So why are you posting a love-in of Trump in the other thread?
36   Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:26am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Goran_K says
Should we institute a 24 hour ban for repeated offenses? Like being deleted 3-4 times and warned with no improvement?


@Goran_K yes, that's a good idea.

I'll work on that this morning.
37   Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 11, 9:30am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Goran_K says
In the end I’m trying to get the discussions way more civil. The new rules seem to be working.


But this new Anon policy isn't. It just lets so many more people hide and not have to take responsibility for what they post.
38   anon_b67e3   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:33am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Patrick says
Goran_K says
Should we institute a 24 hour ban for repeated offenses? Like being deleted 3-4 times and warned with no improvement?


@Goran_K yes, that's a good idea.

I'll work on that this morning.

Yeah, such a good idea. Do you ever read any of these threads Patrick? What was your take away from the opinions expressed on here? That it was a good idea to let Goran ban people after he had deleted their posts? Iwog's gone. Dan's gone. Exactly what do you think will be left with you going down this path? You really aren't thinking this through, are you?
39   Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 11, 9:33am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

anon_b67e3 says
Goran_K says
The recent threads have been much more readable in terms of content.

Hilarious. It's been dead, and it's just the usual suspects posting up a couple of their usual baseless love-ins of Trump.


Feel free to step in for Iwog and start a long list of TDS posts. What's stopping you?
40   anon_b67e3   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:36am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

Sniper says
Feel free to step in for Iwog and start a long list of TDS posts. What's stopping you?

Feeling sad and lonely now that Dan and Iwog have gone? You must be beside yourself. Your post count is certainly down. I wonder why.

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