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Should we institute temp bans?

By Goran_K following x   2017 Nov 11, 8:05am 1,222 views   105 comments   watch   quote     share  


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So far I think the new rules are working. The deleting of personal attacks seems to be working a lot better than “uncivil”.

However certain members are still having a hard time understanding the new rule. I’ve had to delete 5 straight personal attacks from errrc.

Should we institute a 24 hour ban for repeated offenses? Like being deleted 3-4 times and warned with no improvement?

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41 anon_ded1e   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:19am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_25c83 says
Goran_K says
That’s fine. How have I failed as a moderator?


No one respects you. You have so many enemies that you are going to become the topic of every conversation. What was written above is a great example. This is why you should be removed.


Iwog, you really need to stop with the FALSE allegations. Haven't you learned yet?
42 anon_b67e3   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Onvacation says
anon_b67e3 says
baseless love-ins of Trump.

I for one do not love Trump.
But we did dodge the Hillary bullet.

So why are you posting a love-in of Trump in the other thread?
43 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 11, 9:26am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Goran_K says
Errrc why are you acting this way ?


If there ever was an example needed for a permanent ban, errc just displayed it.
44 Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:26am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
Should we institute a 24 hour ban for repeated offenses? Like being deleted 3-4 times and warned with no improvement?


@Goran_K yes, that's a good idea.

I'll work on that this morning.
45 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 11, 9:28am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

errc says
Yea you keep deleting my posts. They are SFW at my job


You work at a sewer treatment plant?
46 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 11, 9:30am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Goran_K says
In the end I’m trying to get the discussions way more civil. The new rules seem to be working.


But this new Anon policy isn't. It just lets so many more people hide and not have to take responsibility for what they post.
47 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 11, 9:31am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Onvacation says
anon_25c83 says
Let me explain the psychology of a bully. A bully doesn't want to get rid of his victims. A bully wants torment. You want the power to temp ban people when they piss you off. It will give you pleasure.

Iwog, is that you?


I thought the same thing.
48 anon_b67e3   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:33am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Patrick says
Goran_K says
Should we institute a 24 hour ban for repeated offenses? Like being deleted 3-4 times and warned with no improvement?


@Goran_K yes, that's a good idea.

I'll work on that this morning.

Yeah, such a good idea. Do you ever read any of these threads Patrick? What was your take away from the opinions expressed on here? That it was a good idea to let Goran ban people after he had deleted their posts? Iwog's gone. Dan's gone. Exactly what do you think will be left with you going down this path? You really aren't thinking this through, are you?
49 Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Nov 11, 9:33am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

anon_b67e3 says
Goran_K says
The recent threads have been much more readable in terms of content.

Hilarious. It's been dead, and it's just the usual suspects posting up a couple of their usual baseless love-ins of Trump.


Feel free to step in for Iwog and start a long list of TDS posts. What's stopping you?
50 anon_b67e3   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:36am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote        

Sniper says
Feel free to step in for Iwog and start a long list of TDS posts. What's stopping you?

Feeling sad and lonely now that Dan and Iwog have gone? You must be beside yourself. Your post count is certainly down. I wonder why.
51 anon_b67e3   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:37am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Sniper says
But this new Anon policy isn't. It just lets so many more people hide and not have to take responsibility for what they post.

You failed to mention that it fucks up your trolling as well.
52 anon_28090   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Goran_K says
If I’m a liar, attack my point, not me.


That's rich coming from you. When you trolled iwog you ALWAYS ran away from substantiating your point and reverted to attacking him personally. Hypocrite much? Uh huh. Sad. Carry on.
53 anon_28090   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:45am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_25c83 says
Goran_K says
But you’re back here checking and seeing the new and improved PatNet.


Kelly Anne? Is that you?
54 Onvacation   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

anon_b67e3 says

Haven't you got some fact free nonsense to post about climate change?

Sure. The IPCC has announced that 2016 is the hottest year on record.
56 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 10:13am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

anon_28090 says
Goran_K says
If I’m a liar, attack my point, not me.


That's rich coming from you. When you trolled iwog you ALWAYS ran away from substantiating your point and reverted to attacking him personally. Hypocrite much? Uh huh. Sad. Carry on.


Iwog was a great member. Sad to see him “leave” but glad you guys are taking up his banner.
58 anon_c1934   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 10:24am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Goran_K says
Iwog was a great member. Sad to see him “leave” but glad you guys are taking up his banner.

Mr. Sincere. Truly a fit and proper person to be a moderator.
59 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 10:45am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

anon_c1934 says
Goran_K says
Iwog was a great member. Sad to see him “leave” but glad you guys are taking up his banner.

Mr. Sincere. Truly a fit and proper person to be a moderator.


Thank you!
60 Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 11:05am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Goran_K says
But so far I’ve not moderated anything unfairly, correct?


Right, Goran has been a fine moderator so far imho.
61 anon_7c0c9   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 11:17am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Patrick says
Right, Goran has been a fine moderator so far imho.


You mean besides constantly trolling the shit out of everyone? You can't see it apparently.
62 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 11:22am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

PCGyver says
Patrick says
Goran_K says
But so far I’ve not moderated anything unfairly, correct?


Right, Goran has been a fine moderator so far imho.


@patrick if someone is a liar and you call them a liar, how is that a personal attack if it's true that the individual is truly a liar?


Who determines who is a liar/moron/idiot/etc ?

It’s a slippery slope. If you think you need to express yourself by name calling, just keep it to yourself.
64 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 11, 12:20pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

You guys are pretending there’s no context. Maybe Patrick ought to lay of smoking pot if he can’t remember anything that’s happened here over the past twelve years.

You guys are likely the same people who can’t begin to understand why an animal born and raised in captivity can’t stand a day in the wild. Iwog was right again, it’s Idiocracy
65 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 12:58pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

PCGyver says
If Goran wants to make statements that he can't back up, maybe he is not a good choice as a moderator.


That’s fine. Just keep the content clean and insult free and you won’t get post deleted.
66 Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 11, 1:13pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

PCGyver says
If Goran wants to make statements that he can't back up, maybe he is not a good choice as a moderator.



“Your statement is false because....”

Takes care of the issue, doesn’t it?
67 Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 4:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Patrick says
Goran_K says
Should we institute a 24 hour ban for repeated offenses? Like being deleted 3-4 times and warned with no improvement?


@Goran_K yes, that's a good idea.

I'll work on that this morning.


Also @WookieMan : note that moderators can now ban users from commenting in their topic for 24 hours.

Just go to their user page (click on their icon or name) and the ban link is at top. Let me know if it doesn't work.

Thanks for the suggestion, Goran.
68 WookieMan   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 5:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick says
Also @WookieMan

FYI, usually I get email notifications on these and I didn't on this one for some reason.

At this point I don't have much need for the feature as the limited #housing comments have been solid so far. We'll see in the future.
69 Ceffer   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 5:21pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Dan and Iwog can't stand being perverted anonymous lurkers. They'll be back as their dander rises.
70 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 6:40pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick says
Also @WookieMan : note that moderators can now ban users from commenting in their topic for 24 hours.

Just go to their user page (click on their icon or name) and the ban link is at top. Let me know if it doesn't work.

Thanks for the suggestion, Goran.


I really don't want to use the feature but it's a necessary part of keeping things clean. Thanks for all the hard work Patrick.
71 mell   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 6:47pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

PCGyver says
If Goran wants to make statements that he can't back up, maybe he is not a good choice as a moderator.

It's pointless to engage with a bunch of anon alt accounts, so maybe you can give a coherent answer as to what you want besides running your own forum. I declined moderating investing due to lack of time and agreed, almost encouraged iwog as moderator instead. Now he apparently is gone in protest and you guys are running wild because someone else moderates another topic?? WTF? This clearly proves that you guys won't stop until you run your own site or can claim some bogus bizarre govt law based on muh feelings and opinions on who is a liar and who isn't. Reminds me of the modern left. Protest and scream and point fingers until only people you approve run everything. I remember Goran buying a house back then and agreeing on Iwogs bullish stance. They weren't that far apart. But somewhere somehow feelings were hurt and now he's Iwogs arch enemy and thus also the arch enemy of his loyal fanboys. Don't you have your own opinions/minds? There's plenty of other topics and people to discuss with, so what the fuck gives?!
72 anon_d2af7   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 7:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

mell says
They weren't that far apart. But somewhere somehow feelings were hurt and now he's Iwogs arch enemy and thus also the arch enemy of his loyal fanboys. Don't you have your own opinions/minds? There's plenty of other topics and people to discuss with, so what the fuck gives?!

No, many people on here are against him because they don’t like his approach to posting and his obvious lack of sincerity. He’s simply a poor choice as moderator and that is borne out by the reaction to it (and for many just the idea of him having the power to delete others’ posts is anathema - little better than say CiC doing it). Now he’s got Patrick to ban people based on his deleting policy. It’s ludicrous. People don’t like him. They react. He deletes. They react. He keeps deleting and gets them banned. Yeah, obviously a great way to run a site. You simply don’t pick someone who is so disliked by a large number of the remaining posters to moderate the busiest thread. It’s beyond stupid.
73 anon_d2af7   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 7:16pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
Patrick says
Also @WookieMan : note that moderators can now ban users from commenting in their topic for 24 hours.

Just go to their user page (click on their icon or name) and the ban link is at top. Let me know if it doesn't work.

Thanks for the suggestion, Goran.


I really don't want to use the feature but it's a necessary part of keeping things clean. Thanks for all the hard work Patrick.

No, it’s not. Patrick could simply ban the obvious trolls like CiC, but he doesn’t. That individual has done more than anyone to bring this site to its knees and yet Patrick just lets him roll back in, instead going down this path... in the process driving away two of the more interesting posters (what’s that, about 10% of the total regular posters?). He’s shooting himself in the foot once again. Things are just getting worse now with you trying to usurp more and more power. People will be up in arms for a while and then will simply drift away. You’ll be left with a small handful of right wingers posting fact free praise of your supposed great leader. And CiC will be long gone.
74 anon_d2af7   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 7:21pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Ceffer says
Dan and Iwog can't stand being perverted anonymous lurkers. They'll be back as their dander rises.

Perverted anonymous users? FFS, everyone on here is anonymous. The only difference now is that all those people who spent their time attacking posters rather than argue points are left scrambling around going “Oh X, is Iwog, Y is Dan...”
75 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 7:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_d2af7 says
No, it’s not. Patrick could simply ban the obvious trolls like CiC, but he doesn’t. That individual has done more than anyone to bring this site to its knees and yet Patrick just lets him roll back in, instead going down this path... in the process driving away two of the more interesting posters (what’s that, about 10% of the total regular posters?). He’s shooting himself in the foot once again. Things are just getting worse now with you trying to usurp more and more power. People will be up in arms for a while and then will simply drift away. You’ll be left with a small handful of right wingers posting fact free praise of your supposed great leader. And CiC will be long gone.


Can someone tell me what CiC means or stands for?
76 anon_d2af7   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 7:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
Can someone tell me what CiC means or stands for?

What does it matter? Are you pretending that you don’t know who that poster is? How many times have you asked this? How many times have people pointed out that you know fine well who it is? You have to laugh.
77 anon_d2af7   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 7:40pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

And it stands for call it crazy if I remember correctly, not that it matters a damn.
78 BlueSardine   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 11, 7:55pm   ↑ like (7)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

I think Dan and iwog are on their honeymoon in chile...
80 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 9:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_d2af7 says
And it stands for call it crazy if I remember correctly, not that it matters a damn.
Thanks. Barely remember that guy. Him and Renting for half the cost used to be great allies I believe.

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