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Should we institute temp bans?

By Goran_K following x   2017 Nov 11, 8:05am 1,231 views   105 comments   watch   quote     share  


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So far I think the new rules are working. The deleting of personal attacks seems to be working a lot better than “uncivil”.

However certain members are still having a hard time understanding the new rule. I’ve had to delete 5 straight personal attacks from errrc.

Should we institute a 24 hour ban for repeated offenses? Like being deleted 3-4 times and warned with no improvement?

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81 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 9:09pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_d2af7 says
mell says
They weren't that far apart. But somewhere somehow feelings were hurt and now he's Iwogs arch enemy and thus also the arch enemy of his loyal fanboys. Don't you have your own opinions/minds? There's plenty of other topics and people to discuss with, so what the fuck gives?!

No, many people on here are against him because they don’t like his approach to posting and his obvious lack of sincerity. He’s simply a poor choice as moderator and that is borne out by the reaction to it (and for many just the idea of him having the power to delete others’ posts is anathema - little better than say CiC doing it). Now he’s got Patrick to ban people based on his deleting policy. It’s ludicrous. People don’t like him. They react. He deletes. They react. He keeps deleting and gets them banned. Yeah, obviously a great way to run a site. You simply don’t pick someone who is so disliked by a large number of ...


You know what’s awesome about the new system? I’ll never be able to defend deleting a comment or banning anyone if a personal attack is not involved. It’s a pretty neat system.
82 Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 11, 9:54pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says

You know what’s awesome about the new system? I’ll never be able to defend deleting a comment or banning anyone if a personal attack is not involved. It’s a pretty neat system.


Maybe that’s what has the leftists so up in arms. There’s an actual standard and the bar can’t be moved without it being noticeable.
83 Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 10:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
You know what’s awesome about the new system? I’ll never be able to defend deleting a comment or banning anyone if a personal attack is not involved. It’s a pretty neat system.


That's a great point.
84 mell   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 11, 10:08pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Fucking White Male says
Goran_K says

You know what’s awesome about the new system? I’ll never be able to defend deleting a comment or banning anyone if a personal attack is not involved. It’s a pretty neat system.


Maybe that’s what has the leftists so up in arms. There’s an actual standard and the bar can’t be moved without it being noticeable.


I'm still baffled by this development, maybe I shouldn't but I would have not pegged everyone that invested in their views to cause such a rift when finally an objective standard is used - though I was fine with no (except for illegal stuff) moderation which is still my preference. Even if somebody would be baiting or polarizing, there is a rule in place that is easy to follow with a bit of self-control. The whole point of laws and rules is that they are not pegged to certain personalities ("asshole", "smug", "sjw" etc.). They simply are neutral and have to be followed by everybody. It would also be logical that mods would be chosen more or less randomly across the spectrum, similar to a jury.
85 anon_84d68   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 12:40am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Sniper says
anon_d2af7 says
It’s ludicrous. People don’t like him. They react. He deletes. They react. He keeps deleting and gets them banned.


So, you think Goran shouldn't have deleted all of errc's (one of iwog's fanboys) temper tantrums of comments this morning? Do you think errc's comments were OK? Or, are you another one of iwog's fanboys too, and are just parroting his comments because Goran isn't a member of your "tribe"?

Most of your comments should be deleted but aren't. You were 'deleted' and are somehow back posting up the same tired old shite. Errc was just making a point. His posting history is infinitely superior to yours, so I'd avoid getting on your high horse if I was you.
86 anon_04cbc   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 7:48am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

anon_b67e3 says
Feeling sad and lonely now that Dan and Iwog have gone? You must be beside yourself. Your post count is certainly down. I wonder why.


He'll languish without the ugliness requisite to interest him. Actually he's posing as iwog and Dan in order to insult himself and staart an argument. It's so important to him he'll eventually forget it's himself he's screaming at. Sad. How mature. Must be drunk. Lonely. Out of welfare checks.

PLEASE IWOG, COME BACK AND VALIDATE ME!!!!!!!
87 Onvacation   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 8:01am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

anon_84d68 says
Errc was just making a point.

Errc was being vulgar, obnoxious, and rude. There are rules against uncivility around here and he broke them.
88 anon_98513   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 8:13am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Onvacation says
anon_84d68 says
Errc was just making a point.

Errc was being vulgar, obnoxious, and rude. There are rules against uncivility around here and he broke them.

Apparently that doesn’t stretch to libtard comments, racism, etc., etc.
89 anon_13ce6   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 9:01am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_98513 says
Onvacation says
anon_84d68 says
Errc was just making a point.

Errc was being vulgar, obnoxious, and rude. There are rules against uncivility around here and he broke them.

Apparently that doesn’t stretch to libtard comments, racism, etc., etc.


Why doesn't it stretch to libtard. It's name calling and uncivil so all comments with it should be marked uncivil.
90 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 12, 9:11am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”
91 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 12, 9:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Onvacation says
anon_84d68 says
Errc was just making a point.

Errc was being vulgar, obnoxious, and rude. There are rules against uncivility around here and he broke them.


Since when?

I’ve been reading Patnet off and on since 2005. Patrick allowed a few posters to be so beyond rude and disruptive that it’s ridiculous to ask that all of a sudden, everyone else change course.

It’s akin to releasing the last few Jews from Auschwitz, and then telling them that their captors will be tasked with making sure that the Jews are civil. It’s an unrealistic expectation
92 anon_98513   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 9:18am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

While ‘you libtards’ or anything along those lines is perfectly acceptable, because err, well fuck I don’t know.
93 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 12, 9:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_98513 says
Goran_K says
You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

While ‘you libtards’ or anything along those lines is perfectly acceptable, because err, well fuck I don’t know.


Show me the post.
94 anon_98513   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 9:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Goran_K says
anon_98513 says
Goran_K says
You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

While ‘you libtards’ or anything along those lines is perfectly acceptable, because err, well fuck I don’t know.


Show me the post.

Pretty much every post ever made by TPB for starters.
95 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 12, 9:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_98513 says
Goran_K says
anon_98513 says
Goran_K says
You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

While ‘you libtards’ or anything along those lines is perfectly acceptable, because err, well fuck I don’t know.


Show me the post.

Pretty much every post ever made by TPB for starters.


That’s not specific enough. We have a pretty good standard here of what gets zapped and what doesn’t. Show me a post and if it fails the standard, it gets zapped.
96 Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 12, 9:31am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_98513 says
Goran_K says
You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

While ‘you libtards’ or anything along those lines is perfectly acceptable, because err, well fuck I don’t know.


So the actual problem isn’t the policy, it’s that you don’t understand the policy.

Or more accurately you’re playing at being obtuse because you think it makes a point(it doesn’t)
97 Onvacation   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 9:32am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

errc says
Patrick allowed a few posters to be so beyond rude and disruptive that it’s ridiculous to ask that all of a sudden, everyone else change course.

Maybe Patrick now wants a site where people are NOT vulgar, rude, and obnoxious.

I could be wrong about the vulgar part.

@patrick Do you consider vulgarity uncivil?

I do.
98 anon_98513   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 9:41am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Onvacation says
errc says
Patrick allowed a few posters to be so beyond rude and disruptive that it’s ridiculous to ask that all of a sudden, everyone else change course.

Maybe Patrick now wants a site where people are NOT vulgar, rude, and obnoxious.

I could be wrong about the vulgar part.

@patrick Do you consider vulgarity uncivil?

I do.

Yeah, pretty much at the time he let CiC back. Oh, hang on...
99 anon_98513   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 9:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Fucking White Male says
anon_98513 says
Goran_K says
You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

While ‘you libtards’ or anything along those lines is perfectly acceptable, because err, well fuck I don’t know.


So the actual problem isn’t the policy, it’s that you don’t understand the policy.

Or more accurately you’re plying at being obtuse because you think it makes a point(it doesn’t)

No, because the “rules” are not remotely applied even-handedly. The mere fact that you’ve popped up to chip in pretty much underscores my point given your posting history.
101 Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 12, 11:24am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

anon_98513 says
Fucking White Male says
anon_98513 says
Goran_K says
You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

While ‘you libtards’ or anything along those lines is perfectly acceptable, because err, well fuck I don’t know.


So the actual problem isn’t the policy, it’s that you don’t understand the policy.

Or more accurately you’re plying at being obtuse because you think it makes a point(it doesn’t)

No, because the “rules” are not remotely applied even-handedly. The mere fact that you’ve popped up to chip in pretty much underscores my point given your posting history.


The rules, in practice, just popped up.

Now you are being unintentionally obtuse. Not to mention disingenuous.
102 Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 12, 3:47pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Onvacation says
patrick Do you consider vulgarity uncivil?


Not necessarily. Vulgarity can be good natured. Consider AF. Usually vulgar, but rarely if ever uncivil.

The essence of civility is a subtext of good will toward the other users.
103 Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 12, 4:36pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick says

Not necessarily. Vulgarity can be good natured. Consider AF. Usually vulgar, but rarely if ever uncivil.


He is a good barbarian. I like him.
104 Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 12, 6:43pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Strategist says
Patrick says

Not necessarily. Vulgarity can be good natured. Consider AF. Usually vulgar, but rarely if ever uncivil.


He is a good barbarian. I like him.


I agree. He's opposite of me on the political spectrum, but he is by far the funniest poster on Patrick.net.

I see quite a few have him(her?) on ignore, and I think they are missing out.
105 mell   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 12, 7:03pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Fucking White Male says
Strategist says
Patrick says

Not necessarily. Vulgarity can be good natured. Consider AF. Usually vulgar, but rarely if ever uncivil.


He is a good barbarian. I like him.


I agree. He's opposite of me on the political spectrum, but he is by far the funniest poster on Patrick.net.

I see quite a few have him(her?) on ignore, and I think they are missing out.


Agreed.

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