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This is why leftism in America is so dangerous. There is no such thing as a free lunch. You work, you eat. Basic fundemental truth that has rung true for over 2,000,000 years of homonsapien history.

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101   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 8:57am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

errc says
Huh? How is this a response to What i said?

You’re not doing a good job of unbiased moderation. You should mark his uncivil comment as such, just as you did mine

And answer the question


First off I didn't mark all of your comments uncivil or delete your comments in this thread.

Secondly, do you think you're being treated unfairly? You should have been banned for your racist comments. If we were "being fair", I'd delete a few perhaps off color comments but then I should go and institute a 24 hour ban on your account for your racist anger filled tirade that you posted 2-3 days ago.

Right now, Patrick has given us leeway to let discussions progress until they become back and forth personal attacks (which so far this conversation has yet to become).

So, please, answer the question, do you think you've been treated unfairly? I don't personally believe you have been, in fact I think you've been given incredible leeway given your past actions. Do you disagree?
102   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 9:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

So I'm guessing the lack of a response means you haven't been treated unfairly?
103   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 9:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

Goran_K says
errc says
Huh? How is this a response to What i said?

You’re not doing a good job of unbiased moderation. You should mark his uncivil comment as such, just as you did mine

And answer the question


First off I didn't mark all of your comments uncivil or delete your comments in this thread.

Secondly, do you think you're being treated unfairly? You should have been banned for your racist comments. If we were "being fair", I'd delete a few perhaps off color comments but then I should go and institute a 24 hour ban on your account for your racist anger filled tirade that you posted 2-3 days ago.

Right now, Patrick has given us leeway to let discussions progress until they become back and forth personal attacks (which so far this conversation has yet to become).

So, please, answer the question, do you think you've been treated unfairly? I don't personally believe you...


Are you drunk already , or just higher than usual? Are you sniffing glue?

Obviously I’m being treated unfairly.

You marked those posts as uncivil, and Patnet has a long history of allowing racist comments.

When Sniper posted “Bye Bye nigger boy!” As Obama left office, the post got more likes than dislikes
104   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 9:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Strategist says
errc says
You should mark his uncivil comment as such, just as you did mine


There is no comparison to what you said, and what I said. It's been beyond apples and oranges.


How do you figure?

It’s either civil or uncivil. Very simple
105   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 9:31am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

errc says
Are you drunk already , or just higher than usual? Are you sniffing glue?

Obviously I’m being treated unfairly.

You marked those posts as uncivil, and Patnet has a long history of allowing racist comments.

When Sniper posted “Bye Bye nigger boy!” As Obama left office, the post got more likes than dislikes


Alright, I've entertained your case long enough. You haven't made a real convincing case that you've been treated unfairly, and I'll leave your reasoning up for all to read and see and decide for themselves.

But after this point, keep your stuff civil, and no back and forth attacks. Thanks.
106   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 14, 9:37am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

errc says
Strategist says
errc says
You should mark his uncivil comment as such, just as you did mine


There is no comparison to what you said, and what I said. It's been beyond apples and oranges.


How do you figure?

It’s either civil or uncivil. Very simple


One was a vicious and vulgar personal attack. The other was just poking fun at someone.
107   Starsky   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 14, 9:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

errc says
Strategist says
errc says
You should mark his uncivil comment as such, just as you did mine


There is no comparison to what you said, and what I said. It's been beyond apples and oranges.


How do you figure?

It’s either civil or uncivil. Very simple


Can't you see? We don't want you here.
108   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 9:40am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

Goran_K says
errc says
Are you drunk already , or just higher than usual? Are you sniffing glue?

Obviously I’m being treated unfairly.

You marked those posts as uncivil, and Patnet has a long history of allowing racist comments.

When Sniper posted “Bye Bye nigger boy!” As Obama left office, the post got more likes than dislikes


Alright, I've entertained your case long enough. You haven't made a real convincing case that you've been treated unfairly, and I'll leave your reasoning up for all to read and see and decide for themselves.

But after this point, keep your stuff civil, and no back and forth attacks. Thanks.


Wouldn’t the definition of being treated unfairly, include marking my posts as uncivil and removing them, while allowing others to comment at and around me in an uncivil fashion?
109   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 14, 9:40am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Strategist says
One was a vicious and vulgar personal attack.


Goran could easily have responded in kind, but did not. That takes a lot of class.
110   Starsky   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 14, 9:41am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Wow finally people who get it. This site is great
111   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 9:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

errc says
Wouldn’t the definition of being treated unfairly, include marking my posts as uncivil and removing them, while allowing others to comment at and around me in an uncivil fashion?


No comments have been deleted or marked uncivil by myself today. You've gotten plenty of leeway.
112   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 9:48am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

errrc. this isn't the forum and thread to start "errc's grivances topics". If you have a problem with moderation, or other issues with uncivil, start a topic under the #patnet subtopic and tag Patrick.

You are derailing multiple topics now in various sub forums. Please start a new thread to discuss your grievances with the management, thanks.
113   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 10:47am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says
Goran_K says
errrc. this isn't the forum and thread to start "errc's grivances topics". If you have a problem with moderation, or other issues with uncivil, start a topic under the #patnet subtopic and tag Patrick.

You are derailing multiple topics now in various sub forums.


Wow, how many threads has he derailed so far 5, 6, 7, more, with his grievances?

It's going "parabolic".


Derail? I’m asking questions

Very rich coming from you after years of attempting to destroy this forum by yourself and your various alias, after Patrick banned you.

I wonder if that picture that Patrick always liked of the runner shitting himself that was attributed to you and your posts, is still considered civil
114   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 10:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

Guys, let's keep it on topic.
115   Quigley   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 11:02am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

He’s complaining about Sniper cluttering up the board while he posts two dozen posts of absolute whiny drivel and self justification for intolerant and hateful attacks on other members. I saw the post he made attacking your wife, Goran, and I was offended for my own reasons. He should have gotten a ban for a week.
I’ve liked his posts and we’ve spent lots of time arguing, but this new angry and aggro errc is just annoying. He’s made himself CiC 2.0
116   Onvacation   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 14, 11:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

errc says
Strategist says
errc says
Jazz Music made a great point yesterday, that it’s likely that people like Goran and CiC are females


Jazz? LOL. He must have also said Dan is a macho man.


Is this civil?

No. But it is humorous.
You should have marked jazz uncivil for calling Goran a woman.
117   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 11:10am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

So you don’t find it offensive when Sniper/Ironman posted “Bye Bye Nigger boy!!!” At The President, because racism doesn’t exist?

You’ve also never once complained about him disrupting most every thread with personal attacks, but if I ask questions and point out inconsistencies, I should be banned?

That’s some strange reasoning
118   Onvacation   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 14, 11:10am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Strategist says

One was a vicious and vulgar personal attack. The other was just poking fun at someone.

There is that.
119   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 11:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

errc says
So you don’t find it offensive when Sniper/Ironman posted “Bye Bye Nigger boy!!!” At The President, because racism doesn’t exist?


I never saw him post that. I'm sure Patrick deleted it if that did happen.
120   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 11:13am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Goran_K says
errc says
So you don’t find it offensive when Sniper/Ironman posted “Bye Bye Nigger boy!!!” At The President, because racism doesn’t exist?


I never saw him post that. I'm sure Patrick deleted it if that did happen.


Your credibility is deteriorating.

Patrick definitely didn’t delete it. Hell, he may have been one of the Likes. Patrick also denies that racism exists lol
121   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 11:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

errc says
Your credibility is deteriorating.

Patrick definitely didn’t delete it. Hell, he may have been one of the Likes. Patrick also denies that racism exists lol


Show me the post.
122   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 11:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Goran_K says
errc says
Your credibility is deteriorating.

Patrick definitely didn’t delete it. Hell, he may have been one of the Likes. Patrick also denies that racism exists lol


Show me the post.


Find it yourself. It’s in the Trump inauguration thread
123   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 11:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

errc says
Find it yourself. It’s in the Trump inauguration thread


I don't believe the post exist and do not believe Patrick would leave such a post up. So why would I look for something that I know doesn't exist?
124   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 11:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Goran_K says
errc says
Find it yourself. It’s in the Trump inauguration thread


I don't believe the post exist and do not believe Patrick would leave such a post up. So why would I look for something that I know doesn't exist?



I bumped the thread. So now what do you have to say?

You have a lot of nerve calling me a liar. Not very civil coming from a moderator

You said you know it doesn’t exist. Why do you feel the need to lie?
125   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 11:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says
Goran_K says
errc says
Find it yourself. It’s in the Trump inauguration thread


I don't believe the post exist and do not believe Patrick would leave such a post up. So why would I look for something that I know doesn't exist?


Sadly, errc is trying to use the Liberal tactic of "Projecting" and blame others to try and justify his behavior lately.

It's not working.


Are you denying you posted that when you were here as Ironman?

What happened, you regretting what you said now?
126   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 11:58am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

I just checked the thread. Patrick not only deleted the post, he deleted the actual user account. I knew Patrick wouldn't leave such a post up despite your claims.

errc says

Patrick definitely didn’t delete it. Hell, he may have been one of the Likes. Patrick also denies that racism exists lol


So yes, you were dishonest, and it's a shame that you feel the need to act this way.
127   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 12:01pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Goran_K says
I just checked the thread. Patrick not only deleted the post, he deleted the actual user account. I knew Patrick wouldn't leave such a post up despite your claims.

errc says

Patrick definitely didn’t delete it. Hell, he may have been one of the Likes. Patrick also denies that racism exists lol


So yes, you were dishonest, and it's a shame that you feel the need to act this way.


Incorrect. Patrick banned Sniper when he posted as Ironman. He never deleted the actual comment, it was collateral damage when he banned his account.

Please stop lying, that is uncivil @Patrick
128   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 14, 12:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

In addition to ironman calling Barack Obama a nigger, he also called Michelle a monkey and a dude. There was a surprising amount of traction on the Michelle being a dude concept.
Patrick deleted the user account because of the doxxing. It had nothing to do with the nigger comments.
129   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 12:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says
errc says
You have a lot of nerve calling me a liar. Not very civil coming from a moderator

You said you know it doesn’t exist. Why do you feel the need to lie?


Speaking of lies, why do you continually accuse people of things, but can't provide a single piece of EVIDENCE to support your accusations?

Got any proof?


Yep i bumped the thread with the quote that captured your post calling the President a nigger.

Are you denying that now?

Change of heart?
130   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 14, 12:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

errc says
Goran_K says
errc says
Find it yourself. It’s in the Trump inauguration thread


I don't believe the post exist and do not believe Patrick would leave such a post up. So why would I look for something that I know doesn't exist?



I bumped the thread. So now what do you have to say?

You have a lot of nerve calling me a liar. Not very civil coming from a moderator

You said you know it doesn’t exist. Why do you feel the need to lie?

To be fair, he said that he didn't think that the post exists in one sentence. He then said that he knew it didn't exist in the next sentence. That is the kind of clear thinking and excellent writing that we should all strive to achieve.
131   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 12:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

YesYNot says
errc says
Goran_K says
errc says
Find it yourself. It’s in the Trump inauguration thread


I don't believe the post exist and do not believe Patrick would leave such a post up. So why would I look for something that I know doesn't exist?



I bumped the thread. So now what do you have to say?

You have a lot of nerve calling me a liar. Not very civil coming from a moderator

You said you know it doesn’t exist. Why do you feel the need to lie?

To be fair, he said that he didn't think that the post exists in one sentence. He then said that he knew it didn't exist in the next sentence. That is the kind of clear thinking and excellent writing that we should all strive to achieve.


Either way he’s lying.

The post still exists in the form of a captured quote. You yourself corroborated that you bared witness
132   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 12:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says
errc says
Sniper says
errc says
You have a lot of nerve calling me a liar. Not very civil coming from a moderator

You said you know it doesn’t exist. Why do you feel the need to lie?


Speaking of lies, why do you continually accuse people of things, but can't provide a single piece of EVIDENCE to support your accusations?

Got any proof?


Yep i bumped the thread with the quote that captured your post calling the President a nigger.

Are you denying that now?

Change of heart?


How is that proof?

How do we know you didn't go in and edit that comment that guy made when you quoted it? You probably changed his quote just so you could make some obscure point.

Also, why are you so bu...


We know because we saw it with our own eyes.

I’m curious why you’re denying it now. Do you wish to renege on what you said? Or are you too high to remember posting it?

You seemed to have such conviction back in January, that you felt calling The President a nigger was civil and added something to the thread
133   justme   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 12:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Strategist says
Bernie is an idiot. According to him, if everyone makes Zero, you are better off because you are equal.


Is it ok to call this for what it is -- a LIE?
134   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 12:37pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

justme says
Strategist says
Bernie is an idiot. According to him, if everyone makes Zero, you are better off because you are equal.


Is it ok to call this for what it is -- a LIE?


Hell no! That would be uncivil, because you aren’t a protected right winger. No soup for you!
135   justme   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 12:46pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

errc says
Many of us came here for a civil exchange of ideas, driven by a thirst for knowledge. What happened over time, in your opinion? Why was civility lost and who is responsible?


The above is why I came here, too. I wanted facts that I could not find elsewhere. I wanted insight. I wanted knowledge. I wanted the stuff that was not in the newspaper because the newspapers were completely controlled by Realtor advertising dollars. But apparently knowledge is no longer what this site is about. The only way to get back to the good old days is to throttle the volume (which I think is the true meaning of the word "moderation" ) of threads and comments. Then the crap content will die a natural death.
136   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 12:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

justme says
Strategist says
Bernie is an idiot. According to him, if everyone makes Zero, you are better off because you are equal.


Is it ok to call this for what it is -- a LIE?


Sure. Now explain why you believe it’s a lie.
137   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 1:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

Sniper says
errc says
We know because we saw it with our own eyes.


Who's "we"? Do you have multiple Alts here?

errc says
Do you wish to renege on what you said?


Who's "you"?

You missed this question;

Sniper says
Also, why are you so butthurt over a comment that was made almost a year ago? Are you really that sensitive?


Errc, for someone who likes to swear at people and call them all types of vulgar names, you seem to be a bit hypocritical, right?


You asked how can we know, are you admitting to having multiple aliases and alts?


I responded with we because YesYNot corroborated and even expanded on what I said

You are projecting here, now stop being uncivil
138   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 1:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

Sniper says
justme says
The above is why I came here, too. I wanted facts that I could not find elsewhere. I wanted insight. I wanted knowledge. I wanted the stuff that was not in the newspaper because the newspapers were completely controlled by Realtor advertising dollars. But apparently knowledge is no longer what this site is about.


So, you think coming to a PRIVATELY owned forum full of anonymous posters should be the source for accurate facts and knowledge?

You do get plenty here that's not in the newspapers, and not found elsewhere, so why are you upset about that?


You think returning to a forum that you were banned from is civil?
139   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 14, 1:04pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

errc says

Either way he’s lying.

The post still exists in the form of a captured quote. You yourself corroborated that you bared witness

Yes. To be clear, I agree that you are correct. Goran wrote something very unclear, which it appears (to me) is common for him. That is not a personal attack. It's just something that I've noticed and pointed out a couple of times. He then called you dishonest, even though you were actually correct in spirit. Oh dear. I see that CIC is still refusing to fess up about who he is. By the way, I remember him calling Obama a nigger, because it was a bit of a stretch, even for him.
140   Sniper   ignore (11)   2017 Nov 14, 1:22pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

errc says
I always assumed he did it intentionally to be uncivil.


Speaking of uncivil

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