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ISIS on Last Legs, thanks Trump

By TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce following x   2017 Nov 12, 6:18pm 1,896 views   25 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


On In January of 2014, this statement was made by Barak Obama about the AQ Affiliates (that soon merged into ISIS) in Iraq:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/01/27/going-the-distance-david-remnick
Falluja was the first ISIL/ISIS conquest of a city, in January 2014. Obama flippantly dismisses Falluja as a "Profoundly Conservative Sunni City." in the above piece.

In June, ISIL had completed a merger with several Al Qaeda affiliates, and then broke with the Al Qaeda organization.

Here is ISIS, 2014-2015:


Like lightening, ISIS conquered Mosul and Ramadi, prompting a huge crisis in Iraq. Then they followed up with the seizure of Palmyra, and further encircled Aleppo.

An article from BI captures the sense of "Shock and Awe" at the rapid expansion of the "JV Team" in May 2015.
http://www.businessinsider.com/isis-gains-in-syira-and-iraq-2015-5
Russia began intervening on behalf of Syrian Government forces in the Fall of 2015.

Aleppo and Palmyra were finally liberated in late 2016, the key combats during and after the Elections, much to the chagrin of the Neoliberals and their Media Machine (see posts to follow, I just found more evidence that Samantha Power, Sunstein's wife, is a total Cunt, btw).

Mosul was declared liberated in July of 2017 by the Iraqi Government.

Here is ISIS today, in late 2017:


Thanks to the magic powers drawn by the Orb of Cofeve:


... and letting Arab Special Forces, Kurds, and Russians, along with US air support and advisers, work their magic without interference from Neoliberals and Political Islam symps.

#Politics #ISIS

The defeats of ISIS under Trump's watch is a major accomplishment; Obama reacted very late to the crisis and indeed apologizes for ISIS' early gains in 2014-2015.
1   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 12, 6:28pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It helps that Obama isn’t able to give the “good terrorist” weapons anymore.
2   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 12, 7:13pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Care to explain who actually defeated the main forces of ISIS? Thought not. To single out Trump for praise is just ridiculous and shows a glaring lack of awareness (or more likely deliberate misrepresentation ) of what actually happened.
3   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 12, 7:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

How about starting by explaining the radical shifts in policy that Trump implemented back in May? You know, those things that made all the difference to the campaign as distinct from the Iraqi army finally being sufficiently combat ready to drive ISiS out of Mosul (for example).
4   Strategist   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 12, 7:34pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
It helps that Obama isn’t able to give the “good terrorist” weapons anymore.


There are Good terrorists, Bad terrorists, and Ugly terrorists. Actually, they are all UGLY terrorists. Have you seen their faces?
As long as they are willing to kill each other, let's give them lots of weapons.
5   Strategist   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 12, 7:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anon_6331c says
Care to explain who actually defeated the main forces of ISIS? Thought not.


It wasn't Obama, was it?
6   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 12, 7:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Goran_K says
It helps that Obama isn’t able to give the “good terrorist” weapons anymore.


There are Good terrorists, Bad terrorists, and Ugly terrorists. Actually, they are all UGLY terrorists. Have you seen their faces?
As long as they are willing to kill each other, let's give them lots of weapons.


Until they use those weapons against us and our own allies.
7   bob2356   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 12, 10:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Aleppo and Palmyra were finally liberated in late 2016, the key combats during and after the Elections,


What trump policies in late 2016 lead to this liberation?
9   BlueSardine   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 24, 7:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
What trump policies in late 2016 lead to this liberation?
10   bob2356   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 24, 8:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (4)   quote   flag        

BlueSardine says
bob2356 says
What trump policies in late 2016 lead to this liberation?


So you have no answer to the question.
11   Strategist   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 24, 8:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

BlueSardine says
bob2356 says
What trump policies in late 2016 lead to this liberation?


I didn't know Trump was President then.
12   Quigley   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 25, 5:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
I didn't know Trump was President then.


Right, the lame duck organizer in Chief was still bitterly clinging to the office, desperately signing thousands of executive orders that Trump was going to cancel in a couple of months. Oh and trying to provoke Russia into WWIII so he could stay on as a wartime POTUS. The last few months of Obama’s would have been abjectly pathetic if they weren’t so unnerving with the radical jihadist actions he was taking to undermine the country as much as possible before getting the boot.
13   bob2356   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 25, 6:55am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
BlueSardine says
bob2356 says
What trump policies in late 2016 lead to this liberation?


I didn't know Trump was President then.


That's when ISIS started being rolled back big time. The battle of mosul started in sept 2016. Of the 60k isis fighters killed in the war against isis 50k were killed before trump took office Since two scoops says it's thanks to trump I want to know what trump did in 2016 for this to happen. It's yet one more simple question that will never be answered by yet one more patnet fanatical ideologue.

Fumy how two scoops has such a convenient memory. Clinton pushed hard in 2010-12 for maintaining a substantial presence in Iraq specifically to prevent a resurgence of AQI. The right wing echo chamber went ballistic about that. Despite Clintons push Maliki refused to accept the troops and the republican congress refused to fund them insisting on following bush's withdrawal plan. So in two scoops pink sky world If the troops went in obama/clinton would be globalist war mongers, if they didn't they were the people responsible for the rise ISIS. Nice. "logic".
14   Strategist   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 25, 8:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Strategist says
BlueSardine says
bob2356 says
What trump policies in late 2016 lead to this liberation?


I didn't know Trump was President then.


That's when ISIS started being rolled back big time. The battle of mosul started in sept 2016. Of the 60k isis fighters killed in the war against isis 50k were killed before trump took office Since two scoops says it's thanks to trump I want to know what trump did in 2016 for this to happen. It's yet one more simple question that will never be answered by yet one more patnet fanatical ideologue.


It was the Russians who started going after ISIS. Obama was forced to follow like a lap dog. Very pathetic on Obama's part to just allow ISIS to rise, and do nothing while they engaged in mass genocide, rape and slavery.
I will never forgive Obama.
15   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 25, 9:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
It was the Russians who started going after ISIS. Obama was forced to follow like a lap dog. Very pathetic on Obama's part to just allow ISIS to rise, and do nothing while they engaged in mass genocide, rape and slavery.
I will never forgive Obama.


The russians went after all the groups in Syria opposing al-Assad at his request.ISIS was just one of the groups. Obama stayed out of Iraq because the leader of Iraq wanted him to stay out and congress opposed him going back in. Silly assertion.
16   bob2356   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 25, 9:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

It was the Russians who started going after ISIS. Obama was forced to follow like a lap dog. Very pathetic on Obama's part to just allow ISIS to rise, and do nothing while they engaged in mass genocide, rape and slavery.


ISIS lost over 50% of it's territory between 2014 and trump being electied. Even more before he took office. That's certainly doing nothing.

Still waiting for someone to tell me what trump did that ISIS was defeated thanks to trump? Most of ISIS fighters were killed before trump took office. Mosul was mostly recaputred when trump took office. Almost all of the ISIS controlled Iraq cities were recaptured before trump took office. Lots of running and hiding going on.
17   Strategist   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 25, 9:59am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Strategist says

It was the Russians who started going after ISIS. Obama was forced to follow like a lap dog. Very pathetic on Obama's part to just allow ISIS to rise, and do nothing while they engaged in mass genocide, rape and slavery.


ISIS lost over 50% of it's territory between 2014 and trump being electied. Even more before he took office. That's certainly doing nothing.

Like I said, no thanks to Obama.

bob2356 says
Still waiting for someone to tell me what trump did that ISIS was defeated thanks to trump? Most of ISIS fighters were killed before trump took office. Mosul was mostly recaputred when trump took office. Almost all of the ISIS controlled Iraq cities were recaptured before trump took office. Lots of running and hiding going on.

Trump accelerated the defeat of ISIS by increasing the bombings. Even more important, unlike pussy Obama he will quickly take action against new Islamist terrorist groups that we all know will emerge.
Why don't we just call it the way it is....A duck is a duck, and a pussy is Obama.
19   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2017 Nov 25, 11:15am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
ISIS lost over 50% of it's territory between 2014 and trump being electied. Even more before he took office. That's certainly doing nothing.


How big was ISIS when Obama proclaimed it the "JV Team"?

You wanna give him credit for reducing it, you gotta give him the responsibility for letting it grow as big as it did.

The Saudi Reforms are 100% Trump and Tillerson. State Department insiders were MOCKING Trump's Middle East policy that is producing results never before seen.
20   HEYYOU   ignore (18)   2017 Nov 25, 12:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Stupid will defend stupid.
21   Strategist   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 25, 3:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Sniper says
Didn't Pelosi say "We have to grow ISIS before we can start reducing ISIS"?


You are supposed to grow a PENIS before you reduce it. Pelosi does not know the difference between a penis and ISIS.
22   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2017 Nov 25, 3:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

2014 was the year ISIS took off. It started retreating after peaking in mid- 2015, when the Russians, Iranians, Hezbollah, and the Iraqi Shi'a got involved in Syria and to a smaller extent in Iraq. When King Salman came to the throne and Prince Bandar "Bush" was removed from the Saudi Intel Ministry.

All of the snotty State, PR, and Foreign Relations assholes, like Nuland and Psaki, were the ones in charge when ISIS flourished and bombed the Syrian Army to support their "Moderate Rebels" (aka Al Qaeda Affiliates, Wahabi Fundies backed by the Gulf States before Salman became King).

This summer Moqtada Al-Sadr visited Saudi Arabia, and then the UAE, and the WaPo and Al-Jazeera were all "WTF?!"

Tillerson, T-Rex, good show.

David Ignatius, totally in the pocket of the Saudi Old Guard.
23   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2017 Nov 25, 6:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

anonymous says
One day we better wise up and learn the "play book" because they are not playing by our rules or our playbook.


Really??

Who actually thinks they are playing by our playbook? Mother Jones or Slate?
24   Strategist   ignore (3)   2017 Nov 25, 7:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anonymous says
ISIS/ISIL whatever is not on there last legs by a long shot.

Baghdadi has been "killed" more times than Bin Laden and each time this country calls it "Mission Accomplished", we find out it isn't.

One day we better wise up and learn the "play book" because they are not playing by our rules or our playbook.


We all know the battle with ISIS is not over, because the battle with Islam is not over. ISIS is just another name for Taliban, Al Qaeda, and the hundreds of names they go by. The reality is, we are at war with Islam, and we will be at war with Islam for a long time to come.
25   bob2356   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 25, 9:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

Like I said, no thanks to Obama.


Isis is 3/4 defeated before trump takes office and it's no thanks to obama. Sure right. You and two scoops just keep on posting nonsense.




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