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Patrick....I have an idea.

By Strategist following x   2017 Nov 13, 6:55pm 3,018 views   62 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


#misc @patrick We all want some kind of a balance between uncivil posts and normal posts.
Suppose, the moderator, instead of making the post disappear, redirects it to a thread just for "insults and uncivil" posts. All responses to insults, which are inevitable, would simply end up in the "insults and uncivil" threads. This way, everyone gets what they want from the site, and no one gets discouraged from posting. If someone does not like the "insults and uncivil" thread, they never have to click it on. Those who want to read or respond, will have there say too.
A couple of refinements will be needed, but if the concept makes sense to you, lets work on it.

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23   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 14, 10:08am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

Since when does Patrick.net have any need for being SFW?

You can’t be working and posting/reading Patnet simultaneously. Unless your job is to troll Patnet.

As an American that values the Economy, the last thing we need is to enable people to be avoiding their work at their job, to post on Patnet.

Get back to work if you’re at work

Or better yet, man up and make something of yourself so you’re not subject to censorship from your boss
24   Onvacation   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 14, 10:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

errc says


You view a personal attack on yourself as uncivil

Because it is.
errc says
if someone you view as being on your team, attacking someone who you view as on an opposing team, then you allow it to remain.

YOU have the power to mark uncivil and then patnet can become a place where people can share and debate ideas.
25   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 10:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

errc says
Since when does Patrick.net have any need for being SFW?


Good question.

Start a thread under #misc or #patnet and tag Patrick. If Patrick decides NSFW is not important then that's what it will be. It would limit my time being able to hang out on PatNet though to off hours.
26   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 14, 10:25am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

Goran_K says
The truth is

pretty much exactly as justme summarized it.


Goran_K says
He was abusing his moderating ability right out of the gate.
He didn't abuse his moderating ability (sic). He posted a comment in the wrong category, so that he could avoid you as a moderator. That didn't rely on his moderating powers, because any poster could do it. Although he disagreed with your categorization of a picture, I recall that he clearly stated repeatedly that you were unfit as a moderator for other reasons. I'll take you at your word that you are trying to be honest and represent what happened accurately. But if that is the case, it seems to me that your ego is preventing you from seeing the situation clearly.
27   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 14, 10:47am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Goran_K says
Your ego and bias is preventing you from admitting that he basically attempted to circumvent the site's rules and moderation

No it is not. I admitted that he was trying to circumvent the site's moderation - namely your moderation. In fact, if you go back to the original thread, you will see that I was the first person to call him out on it. I stated that he was not abusing his moderator power, which I think is what you meant when you wrote 'moderation ability'. Now, you are mis-characterizing what I wrote. Do you even see the difference?
28   tovarichpeter   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 14, 12:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Very good idea.
29   jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 14, 6:54pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

anon_62240 says
it's all irrelevant; the high and mighty want the average joes on both sides to fight amongst themselves while they guide us into our new lives as serfs.

You all seem to be in general agreement with this notion.

The whole game, our loss of republic, was laid out in detail recently right here on patrick.net and it didn't get much notice. There's even various proposed solutions to regain our republic.

It was a good link with credit to Heraclitussstudent, not one to polarize using dirty tactics to end discussions either:
http://patrick.net/post/1311802/2017-11-09-podcast-how-money-corrupts-congress-and-a-plan-to-stop-it
I recommend not only talking about it, but memorizing as much of it as you can.

Here's another link to talk about and memorize as much of it as you can.
CONVERSATIONAL TERRORISM
http://vandruff.com/art_converse.html
30   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 14, 9:20pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

jazz_music says
anon_62240 says
it's all irrelevant; the high and mighty want the average joes on both sides to fight amongst themselves while they guide us into our new lives as serfs.

You all seem to be in general agreement with this notion.

This is Panet, not the mental ward.

jazz_music says
The whole game, our loss of republic, was laid out in detail recently right here on patrick.net and it didn't get much notice. There's even various proposed solutions to regain our republic.

He he he he he he. OK...How do we get back the republic we never lost?
31   Sniper   ignore (11)   2017 Nov 14, 9:42pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (4)   quote        

Strategist says
This is Panet, not the mental ward.


Really? It's hard to tell based on some of the posts here.
32   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 14, 9:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says
Strategist says
This is Panet, not the mental ward.


Really? It's hard to tell based on some of the posts here.


I really put my foot in my mouth there, didn't I?
33   NewOldUser   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 15, 12:32am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (5)   quote        

Goran is doing a fine job. When the Left loses, they turn to censorship. Didn't work here, because Patrick knows better.
34   jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 15, 10:41am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote        

Strategist says
He he he he he he. OK...How do we get back the republic we never lost?


Your question makes no sense but contains an awful lot of "He he he he he he."

You should listen to Heraclitusstudent's link, there are some illustrative graphics too
http://patrick.net/post/1311802/2017-11-09-podcast-how-money-corrupts-congress-and-a-plan-to-stop-it
I recommend not only talking about it, but memorizing as much of it as you can.
35   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 15, 7:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

jazz_music says
Strategist says
He he he he he he. OK...How do we get back the republic we never lost?


Your question makes no sense but contains an awful lot of "He he he he he he."

You should listen to Heraclitusstudent's link, there are some illustrative graphics too
http://patrick.net/post/1311802/2017-11-09-podcast-how-money-corrupts-congress-and-a-plan-to-stop-it
I recommend not only talking about it, but memorizing as much of it as you can.


Corruption is like cockroaches and prostitution. You can never get rid of it.
Socialist countries have a lot more corruption, because the power rests in the hands of very few individuals. You think Maduro, Kim Jong Un, and Castro live as equals to their citizens?
36   Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 15, 8:24pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Strategist says
Socialist countries have a lot more corruption, because the power rests in the hands of very few individuals.


True, but it's also true that we are getting more corruption of our political system here as more power is concentrated into the hands of our oligarchs.

They can simply buy our laws with campaign donations and lobbying, and use those laws to ensure that there is no challenge to their near-monopolies.

Cash flows in, cash is used to buy lawmakers, lawmakers divide us with bullshit identity politics and quietly pass laws which ensure the cash keeps flowing to the oligarchs. Rinse and repeat. Forever.
37   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 15, 8:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
Strategist says
Socialist countries have a lot more corruption, because the power rests in the hands of very few individuals.


True, but it's also true that we are getting more corruption of our political system here as more power is concentrated into the hands of our oligarchs.

They can simply buy our laws with campaign donations and lobbying, and use those laws to ensure that there is no challenge to their near-monopolies.


I cannot disagree. This is why we have corruption. It's still less corruption than socialism/communism where they have very few people in power.
In our case, we have a solution.....campaign finance reforms, lobbying, changes in law etc.
We have the means to make the right changes. We need to strive it.
38   Sniper   ignore (11)   2017 Nov 15, 9:47pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Patrick says
They can simply buy our laws with campaign donations and lobbying, and use those laws to ensure that there is no challenge to their near-monopolies.

Cash flows in, cash is used to buy lawmakers, lawmakers divide us with bullshit identity politics and quietly pass laws which ensure the cash keeps flowing to the oligarchs.


39   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 16, 6:29am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
Strategist says
Socialist countries have a lot more corruption, because the power rests in the hands of very few individuals.


True, but it's also true that we are getting more corruption of our political system here as more power is concentrated into the hands of our oligarchs.

They can simply buy our laws with campaign donations and lobbying, and use those laws to ensure that there is no challenge to their near-monopolies.

Cash flows in, cash is used to buy lawmakers, lawmakers divide us with bullshit identity politics and quietly pass laws which ensure the cash keeps flowing to the oligarchs. Rinse and repeat. Forever.


.....and you voted for the biggest oligarch there is, whose lust for illegal power is his only guiding principle. smh. he thinks the DOJ should harass anyone who doesn't admire the length of his fingers. if someone laughs at one of his cronies they get investigated and sued. he sends his brain-challenged children as ambassadors and representatives to other countries.....and you think that's not all pure evidence of corruption and plutocracy? a man who won't release his tax returns? wow, you really guzzled the authoritarian koolaid.
40   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 16, 7:44am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
True, but it's also true that we are getting more corruption of our political system here as more power is concentrated into the hands of our oligarchs.


If money = power and we give a tax break that favors the wealthy (oligarchs). Aren't we just giving the oligarchs more power? Still further adding to the corruption. If Trump wanted to make America great he would make tax law that taxes the rich wealthy oligarchs and takes a "chunk" of their wealth when they pass on to the other side.

You don't extinguisher the power of oligarchs by giving them a tax break.
41   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 16, 7:46am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

anon_66fd9 says
Patrick says
Strategist says
Socialist countries have a lot more corruption, because the power rests in the hands of very few individuals.


True, but it's also true that we are getting more corruption of our political system here as more power is concentrated into the hands of our oligarchs.

They can simply buy our laws with campaign donations and lobbying, and use those laws to ensure that there is no challenge to their near-monopolies.

Cash flows in, cash is used to buy lawmakers, lawmakers divide us with bullshit identity politics and quietly pass laws which ensure the cash keeps flowing to the oligarchs. Rinse and repeat. Forever.


.....and you voted for the biggest oligarch there is, whose lust for illegal power is his only guiding principle. smh. he thinks the DOJ should harass ...


You think if Hillary was President, corruption would suddenly come to an end? The negative issues you perceive would just disappear?
You got your vote, and that's all you get. Nothing more.
42   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Nov 16, 9:04am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Strategist says
You think if Hillary was President, corruption would suddenly come to an end? The negative issues you perceive would just disappear?
You got your vote, and that's all you get. Nothing more.


I know I don't think so. But at the same time I'm not holding my breath that Trump will make America Great again.

Here is a question, when was America Great? What time frame are we trying to relive?
43   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 16, 9:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

anon_13ce6 says
Strategist says
You think if Hillary was President, corruption would suddenly come to an end? The negative issues you perceive would just disappear?
You got your vote, and that's all you get. Nothing more.


I know I don't think so. But at the same time I'm not holding my breath that Trump will make America Great again.

Here is a question, when was America Great? What time frame are we trying to relive?


I think America has been great since the civil war, and still is.

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