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WHY AMERICANS KEEP FALLING FOR RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA

By jazz_music following x   2017 Nov 25, 1:31pm 3,680 views   21 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


The Soviets lost the Cold War partly because of their crude propaganda. But the Kremlin learned its historical lesson. The recent news about Facebook selling ads during the 2016 election to a Russian troll farm and Russia creating fake online Americans to push anti-Hillary Clinton propaganda show that Russia is now fighting a new kind of war with great finesse — and is taking Americans by surprise.

But it shouldn’t be. Disinformation has long been a Russian strategy to manipulate its own citizens and to undermine U.S. democracy. During the Cold War, the U.S. government took concrete measures to identify and combat propaganda filled with Marxist rhetoric and improbable claims, and Americans’ ability to recognize such propaganda became central to the country’s defeat of the Soviet Union.

Yet President Vladimir Putin has found considerable success by waging a new version of the old propaganda war with the West. Russia’s global messaging today is nimbler, subtler and better funded, giving the Kremlin an edge in advancing its expansionist goals. But without the familiar ideological cues and division lines from the “first” Cold War, many Americans appear to have lowered their guard, accepting more nuanced, more pervasive Russian lies as just another point of view.

So how did Americans lose their sense of what was foreign propaganda and what was not? Part of it has to do with changes in the country’s propaganda machine. During the Cold War, Soviet authorities struggled to sell their political message to the masses around the globe. Marxist ideology and party control ensured that Soviet journalists strictly penned stories that followed the party line, ultimately limiting what Soviet scribes could say.

Spreading the revolution by planting news in international newspapers often meant sounding ridiculous. In the 1940s and 1950s in particular, pieces on outlandishly efficient Soviet factories, brilliant-yet-unknown Russian inventors and happy collective farmers went off to news agencies across the world. But few wanted to publish the dispatches because they were poorly written, unbelievably boring and patently untrue.

This kind of fake news stifled, not strengthened, Soviet efforts to remake the world. To Western readers and viewers, Soviet “news” easily stood out for what it was: propaganda.

The United States took this threat seriously, despite its frequently crude presentation of Soviet ideology, hype and hyperbole. Stories about train engineers who drove four-kilometer-long trains across Siberia at breakneck speeds were easy to dismiss, ultimately making America’s own systematic (and successful) propaganda efforts less complicated, as well.

To push back against Soviet propaganda in a global battle for influence, the U.S. government actively used the Department of State, the CIA, the U.S. Information Agency and various cultural organizations to showcase the most appealing aspects of the American way of life and to promote half-truths and deceptions of its own. At home, the U.S. government mobilized for vigilance against Soviet influence in political and cultural life, most notably during the McCarthy era.

After his homeland’s humiliating defeat in the Cold War, Putin recognized that escalating and transforming the propaganda war is central to challenging U.S. dominance. While Americans may now pay more heed to Russia’s efforts to expand its territory and political influence worldwide, they continue to dismiss the role of the Kremlin’s global disinformation meant to mold public opinion in favor of Russia’s ambitious geopolitical goals. In its sophisticated form, greater scale and effectiveness, the modern propaganda has changed in style, but not in purpose from the Cold War.

Under Putin, the Russian media has gained unprecedented power to spread global lies once again. But this time, news is free from the Marxist-Leninist logic and language, and it explicitly emulates Western journalism — both in appearance and the content of the news. Newscasters dress smartly and argue and schmooze with a panache their Soviet predecessors could have never matched. The government-funded news channel RT (formerly Russia Today) broadcasts in multiple languages, while its page claims that its top YouTube broadcasts get 1 billion views per day. RT has also hired veteran U.S. broadcasters such as Ed Schultz to give the channel credibility in the United States.

In the new “hybrid warfare” the Kremlin champions, anything goes: War need not be declared; intervention should be deniable; all government and private resources can be mobilized to advance Russia’s goals.

Technology plays a key role. For instance, Moscow uses hired trolls and algorithms known as “bots” to replicate its message to the world. The news about immigration and terrorism that they amplify, to take one example, aims to undermine trust in the Western order by portraying the West as tottering on the edge of apocalypse.

More importantly, its content fits easily into the liberal-loathing echo chamber conservatives have created. The irony: The hugely popular Fox News, with its right-wing, historically hawkish, anti-Soviet audience, now eagerly replicates the Russian perspective.

The Soviet government never dreamed that millions of patriotic Americans would read — and believe — Pravda. But as Russian-generated stories zip around the Internet and through conservative media circles, propaganda is proving to be an effective tool to undermine the values and cohesion of the West.


https://inhomelandsecurity.com/why-americans-keep-falling-for-russian-propaganda/ #politics
1   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 25, 1:38pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Well this does explain why left so badly wants to socialize everything, communism, and equality. All things that failed in soviet union, highly desired by the left and the "Democrats" these days.
2   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 25, 1:45pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
The Soviets lost the Cold War partly because of their crude propaganda.


The Soviets lost the cold war because their failed communist system could not keep up with the successful capitalist system. It was doomed to fail from day one, and it did.
3   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2017 Nov 25, 1:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says
Well this does explain why left

The first thing preceding the great increase in extraction of value form America is the destruction of unions and regulation because those were the forces that regulated the systemic advantages in capitalism that guarantee ever-centralizing wealth and power.

All this wealth inequality is EXACTLY what is missing from Main Street USA today.

What USA had was NOT COMMUNISM, IT WAS REGULATION that mitigated the power of wealth to crush.

You are an extremist who perennially condemns and runs. You have IRRATIONAL FEARS to soothe as if they were your salvation.

Has humanity no importance to you?

Can you be so blind as to what has been stolen in the 40 years and where it went?

To the laughing lazy poor? --if you really think that you really need to pray for your lost soul.
4   mell   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 25, 2:25pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
jazz_music says
The Soviets lost the Cold War partly because of their crude propaganda.


The Soviets lost the cold war because their failed communist system could not keep up with the successful capitalist system. It was doomed to fail from day one, and it did.


Exactly and the leftoids are mad that Russians have mostly abandoned their failed system as well.
5   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 25, 2:38pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I'll say it again: It would be easier to fight destabilizing Russian propaganda if the establishment was not so obviously acting against the interest of a majority of Americans and not even hiding.
Look at this: New DNC Chair Says Outrage Over Clinton's Pay-To-Play Is Attempt To "Criminalize Normal Behavior"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-29/new-dnc-chair-says-outrage-over-clinton-foundation-pay-play-attempt-criminalize-norm
You can't say this is fake news. She said these things.
For Russian propaganda, it's like shooting an elephant in a corridor.
6   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2017 Nov 25, 2:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

You guys need to get with reality which is that you may have a job now but you got more slippery slopes to deal with every day because it's the few at the top that are ripping off America's standard of living, not some lazy poor that you think exists in great numbers. We're lucky they don't kill more of us too and luck will run out as the heat gets turned up on us all.

Feeding the poor into chipper shredders is never going to solve your problems.
7   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 25, 3:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
Exactly and the leftoids are mad that Russians have mostly abandoned their failed system as well.

Yet lefties like Jazz and Dan want it bad. Why is America hated so much?
8   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2017 Nov 25, 3:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says
Well this does explain why left so badly wants to socialize everything, communism, and equality. All things that failed in soviet union, highly desired by the left and the "Democrats" these days.


The Left used to apologize for, and demand co-existence with, the Soviet Union at it's worst moments.

Now the Left hates modern Russia and Vladimir Putin that isn't a twentieth as authoritarian as the USSR. While it fawns over French, German, and British police arresting people for "anti-social" tweets while failing to monitor terrorists returning from helping ISIS in Syria mowing people over.
9   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 25, 3:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
You guys need to get with reality which is that you may have a job now but you got more slippery slopes to deal with every day because it's the few at the top that are ripping off America's standard of living, not some lazy poor that you think exists in great numbers. We're lucky they don't kill more of us too and luck will run out as the heat gets turned up on us all.

I know. Those at the top pay us $50K. In Venezuela, where they have no one at the top, get $28 per month.
Have you hugged your boss today?

jazz_music says
Feeding the poor into chipper shredders is never going to solve your problems.

Ha ha ha. Love it.
10   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Apr 1, 6:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Why would the Russians ever stop fucking with our elections when it WORKS and our president is PWNED by Putin?
11   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 1, 6:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Why would the Russians ever stop fucking with our elections when it WORKS and our president is PWNED by Putin?


US Companies need to hire those Russian Hackers. I mean, look what they got with a Free Tumblr Page with a Pokemon Giveaway and a few thousand bucks in Facebook Ads.

Meanwhile, everyone from Citigroup to Tom Steyer's Shell Corps to Paloma Partners and others raised $1.3B - an all time high - for Hillary and she still lost. And did it all without Obama's Administration doing a damn thing about it.

That's some serious leverage. The Russians' Mad Marketing Skillz must be like the current 1st US MEU fighting a bunch of Club-armed Neanderthals.
12   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Apr 1, 6:41pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
WHY AMERICANS LIBERALS KEEP FALLING FOR RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA


There, I had to fix the title of the thread.
13   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 1, 6:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Only people make jobs and pay taxes.

Our CA government hasn’t produced anything, just instituted big taxes and is killing us more and more every year with more taxes, and bigger government as a result. It’s awful, same pattern with liberals every year.
jazz_music says
You guys need to get with reality which is that you may have a job now but you got more slippery slopes to deal with every day because it's the few at the top that are ripping off America's standard of living, not some lazy poor that you think exists in great numbers. We're lucky they don't kill more of us too and luck will run out as the heat gets turned up on us all.

Feeding the poor into chipper shredders is never going to solve your problems.
14   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 1, 6:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Why would the Russians ever stop fucking with our elections when it WORKS and our president is PWNED by Putin?


I am convinced the Russians messed around with our Presidential elections. The question is did they manage to change the eventual outcome? No one can possibly know.
I'm just glad Trump is President, because he is the only President who is actually keeping his promises. Sadly, even the promises I don't want him to keep. That's OK, because the overall good he does for us is simply phenomenal. Trump is succeeding in every fucking issue where Obama failed.
15   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 1, 6:58pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
jazz_music says
Why would the Russians ever stop fucking with our elections when it WORKS and our president is PWNED by Putin?


US Companies need to hire those Russian Hackers. I mean, look what they got with a Free Tumblr Page with a Pokemon Giveaway and a few thousand bucks in Facebook Ads.

Meanwhile, everyone from Citigroup to Tom Steyer's Shell Corps to Paloma Partners and others raised $1.3B - an all time high - for Hillary and she still lost. And did it all without Obama's Administration doing a damn thing about it.

That's some serious leverage. The Russians' Mad Marketing Skillz must be like the current 1st US MEU fighting a bunch of Club-armed Neanderthals.


Lol you can't fix leftist delusions. And with US - Russian relations closer to lows after rounds of neocon/deepstate assholery, to think that Trump does Putin's bidding is a delusion grandeur.
16   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Apr 1, 7:16pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
deepstate

Ok, I'll bite. You know all about the deep state.

What is the deep state? I really want to know. Where is it? What makes it up? Why does it exist?
17   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Apr 1, 7:17pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Lets talk about deluded bastards LOL
18   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 1, 9:07pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Lets talk about deluded bastards LOL



I cannot sit back and continue to allow Russian collusion to sap our Precious Bodily Fluids.

19   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Apr 1, 9:25pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
What is the deep state? I really want to know. Where is it? What makes it up? Why does it exist?


Try Google.com, you'd be amazed what education can be found there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state_in_the_United_States

Please thank me later!
21   BlueSardine   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 1, 9:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

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jazz_music says
What is the deep state? I really want to know.




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