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BREAKING: US to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, will move embassy there, Trump to announce

By Strategist following x   2017 Dec 5, 6:27pm 6,425 views   94 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


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https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/05/us-to-recognize-jerusalem-as-capital-of-israel-and-will-move-the-embassy-there.html US to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, will move embassy there, Trump to announce
President Donald Trump will announce Wednesday that the U.S. will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, senior administration officials said
The U.S. will move its embassy to the city, but that could take "years" — possibly three to four — and there is no location yet for the new facility, officials said

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1   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 5, 6:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

From the article:
"Trump notified Arab leaders on Tuesday that he intends to make the major change in calls to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, Jordan's King Abdullah, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi and Saudi Arabia's King Salman. Many of the leaders warned that unilateral U.S. steps on Jerusalem would derail a fledgling U.S.-led peace effort and unleash turmoil in the region."

Derail peace efforts? With terrorists? LOL. It's not possible to make peace with Arabs. It's a waste of time.
My message to Arabs and Muslims who hate us.....Fuck You. We don't exist to make you happy, we exist to make us happy.
2   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 5, 7:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Oh, by the way.....why would we want to support the Arabs, and go against Israel? When have you fucking Arabs ever done anything good for us and mankind? Israel gives us life saving drugs, technology that improves our standard of living, and have never threatened us or anyone who wants to live in peace. You fucking animals hate everyone, threaten and hurt everyone, send your lunatic suicide bombers to kill our children, and have done nothing in modern times to help mankind. And you want us to support you? Really? You inbred wackos have very little intelligence, are lazy as hell, and the only talent you possess is to kill and torment others, just like your beloved child molesting Mohammad the "perfect Muslim"
We don't need you, the world does not need you. Please please kill each other.
God bless.
3   Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 5, 7:02pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Strategist says
Many of the leaders warned that unilateral U.S. steps on Jerusalem would derail a fledgling U.S.-led peace effort


The "peace process" in the Mideast has been going on my whole life. All process, no peace.

Peace in the Mideast is never going to happen.
4   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 5, 7:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Patrick says
Strategist says
Many of the leaders warned that unilateral U.S. steps on Jerusalem would derail a fledgling U.S.-led peace effort


The "peace process" in the Mideast has been going on my whole life. All process, no peace.

Peace in the Mideast is never going to happen.


The peace process that never brings peace will continue regardless of what we do. May as well do what is in our interests.
5   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 5, 7:18pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

And moving the embassy will serve what purpose? Be a benefit in what way? How many other countries have embassies in Jerusalem?.... I wonder why that might be...
6   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 5, 7:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Strategist says
And moving the embassy will serve what purpose? Be a benefit in what way? How many other countries have embassies in Jerusalem?.... I wonder why that might be...


If there is no purpose and no benefit, why are the Arabs and Muslims so upset? Please tell us.
7   socal2   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 5, 7:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anon_dab5f says
And moving the embassy will serve what purpose? Be a benefit in what way? How many other countries have embassies in Jerusalem?.... I wonder why that might be...


The Knesset, Supreme Court, Prime Minister's office/residence, Foreign Affairs and most government offices are in Jerusalem.

Under every conceivable "peace deal" big chunks of Jerusalem were going to be Israel's capital. Why wouldn't are Embassy be there? It has been US law for over 20 years.

In terms of "other countries" treatment of Israel. I don't think Europe, Russia, China and the Muslim/Arab World have a great track record when it comes to dealing with Israel and the Jews.
8   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2017 Dec 5, 9:48pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Peace won’t come from appeasing the Arabs.

Netanyahu and Trump are the first ones willing to shove a middle finger at the Muslim nations...and might finally achieve some level of peace.
9   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 6, 9:10am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Strategist says
Strategist says
And moving the embassy will serve what purpose? Be a benefit in what way? How many other countries have embassies in Jerusalem?.... I wonder why that might be...


If there is no purpose and no benefit, why are the Arabs and Muslims so upset? Please tell us.

What? There’s no purpose or benefit to it precisely because it angers so many countries. And if you don’t know why that is the case, then perhaps you need to educate yourself more about the region.
10   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 6, 9:17am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anon_dab5f says
And moving the embassy will serve what purpose? Be a benefit in what way? How many other countries have embassies in Jerusalem?.... I wonder why that might be...


Fear of Arab oil embargo.

If Arabs sold Parsley, Plastic Washers, and novelty X-ray Glasses instead of Oil, the embassies would have been in Jerusalem decades ago.

Sudan, Myanmar, Pakistan, so many countries where human rights are violated and so many murdered all the time. The UNHCR is only interested in Israel.

The Palestinians go to the peace process, are offered 95% of JEWdea and Samaria, then flounce in a huff and declare an intifada.

This is a wonderful gesture that's ALREADY BEEN APPROVED by the USA as punishment for walking away from negotiations.

For 2000 years, Jews said "Next Year in JEWrusalem." not "Next year in Tel Aviv" which didn't even exist until recently. ALL of Jerusalem will be Israeli. Historically, Arabs have closed the city on a whim when they were butthurt, shookdown Pilgrims, they simply can't be trusted with it's administration.

Israel's words are backed with nuclear weapons, so any talk of the Palestinians who bred like rabbits from a few hundred thousand into millions over a few generations moving in and voting is an absolute non-starter. We don't need another Lebanon. The Paleban moved there and ignited a Civil War.
11   HEYYOU   ignore (16)   2017 Dec 6, 9:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

How about all the Wingnuts getting jobs in our global embassies?
At least Muslims don't have this list of targets.
If any are attacked no Republican will be harmed.
https://www.usembassy.gov/
Republicans that die from their stupidity makes for exciting news.
12   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 6, 9:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I don't know why people are so opposed to this, it's been the law and approved by an overwhelming majority of both Dems and Republicans for 20+ years.

All Trump is doing is refusing to issue a National Security Waiver to postpone it yet again.

If it's so horrendous and unpopular, surely Congress will withdraw their own legislation.
13   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 6, 9:35am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

anon_86154 says

If there is no purpose and no benefit, why are the Arabs and Muslims so upset? Please tell us.

What? There’s no purpose or benefit to it precisely because it angers so many countries. And if you don’t know why that is the case, then perhaps you need to educate yourself more about the region.

Oh it angers other countries, like the Muslim countries that terrorize us. Their terrorist activities angers us even more, so fuck them. We ain't giving in to their threats. Who the hell do these 7th century barbarians think they are, ordering us around.

TwoScoopsMcGee says
anon_dab5f says
And moving the embassy will serve what purpose? Be a benefit in what way? How many other countries have embassies in Jerusalem?.... I wonder why that might be...


Fear of Arab oil embargo.

Blackmail. Old fashioned blackmail. We don't want their oil anymore. Let them drown in it.
14   socal2   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 6, 9:40am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
I don't know why people are so opposed to this, it's been the law and approved by an overwhelming majority of both Dems and Republicans for 20+ years.

All Trump is doing is refusing to issue a National Security Waiver.

If it's so horrendous and unpopular, surely Congress will withdraw their own legislation.


Not to mention that virtually all of Israel's capital government buildings have been located in Western Jerusalem for decades.

Are all the Western ISIS lackeys who are all butt-hurt over moving the US embassy to Israel's capital really foresee a future where Israel uproots the Knesset and Supreme Court from West Jerusalem?
15   DASKAA   ignore (3)   2017 Dec 6, 10:28am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I don't really give a fuck either way.
17   Booger   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 6, 6:37pm   ↑ like (9)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Liberals right now.
18   WineHorror1   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 6, 6:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
Strategist says
Many of the leaders warned that unilateral U.S. steps on Jerusalem would derail a fledgling U.S.-led peace effort


The "peace process" in the Mideast has been going on my whole life. All process, no peace.

Peace in the Mideast is never going to happen.

My only quibble with that comment is, I wonder how much of the turmoil is due to US meddling and shit stirring.
19   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 6, 8:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

WorkInProgress says
Patrick says
Strategist says
Many of the leaders warned that unilateral U.S. steps on Jerusalem would derail a fledgling U.S.-led peace effort


The "peace process" in the Mideast has been going on my whole life. All process, no peace.

Peace in the Mideast is never going to happen.

My only quibble with that comment is, I wonder how much of the turmoil is due to US meddling and shit stirring.


Why do you say that? What would be our motive for doing something like that?
20   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 6, 8:40pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

"The President isn't Leading, he's disengaging from the world. Isolationist!"

*Pressures China on Korean Trade*
*Orders USN/USAF Exercises off Korea*
*Recognizes Israel Capital*

"The Presdient is Leading Too Much!!!"
21   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 6, 8:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Almost 25 years of not moving Embassy to the Capital:

Suddenly, Nothing Happened!

Announce moving the Embassy to the Capital:

But Something Might Happen!
23   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 7, 7:17am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Is Trump going to build an embassy there, and use that for leverage to give half of Jerusalem to the Palestinians later? The only way he would have time to complete such a plan is if they get to building and build quickly. Otherwise, he might as well let Jared go skiing for the 3 yrs. He'd have as much luck negotiating peace from Aspen's slopes as anywhere else.
24   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 7, 7:58am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Where are Caesar and the Roman Legionnaires when we need them most?
25   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 7, 9:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Al Qaeda condemns Trump's Jerusalem move, calls for action - Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/...trump.../al-qaeda-condemns-trumps-jerusalem-move-calls-...
2 hours ago - Islamist militant group Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) has condemned the U.S. decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital and called on militants to close ranks to support Palestinians.

Hamas Calls for Intifada as Trump's Jerusalem Move Stirs Protest ...
https://www.bloomberg.com/.../hamas-leader-urges-new-intifida-against-israel-over-je...
9 hours ago - The Gaza Strip's militant Hamas rulers called for a new uprising against President Donald Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital, while protesters burned American flags and pictures of the U.S. leader in demonstrations across the West Bank. “We demand, call and will launch an intifada in the ...

Iran 'will not tolerate' Trump Jerusalem 'violation': Rouhani - Times of ...
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/iran-will.../61950463.cms 1 day ago - TEHRAN: Iranian President Hassan Rouhani blasted his US counterpart Donald Trump's plan to recognise Jerusalem as the Israeli capital today, saying it would not be tolerated. Rouhani also spoke with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan by phone, describing Trump's announcement as "wrong, ...

Turkey to Trump: Calling Jerusalem the Israeli capital will draw Muslim ...
https://www.cnbc.com/.../turkey-to-trump-calling-jerusalem-the-israeli-capital-will-dra...
2 days ago - The United States will anger Muslim countries if it recognizes Israel's capital city as Jerusalem, Turkey's foreign minister warned Tuesday. Mevlut Cavusoglu said a decision by U.S. President Donald Trump to recognize Jerusalem, rather than Tel Aviv, as the Israeli capital could bring chaos to the region.

Ha ha ha.
Looks like nothing has changed.
26   HEYYOU   ignore (16)   2017 Dec 7, 9:33am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Stupid Trump & his brain dead supporters,
Israel declared Jerusalem their capitol in 1980.

Maybe this loudmouth will bring death & destruction to Republicans around the world.
27   HEYYOU   ignore (16)   2017 Dec 7, 9:41am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Ceffer says
Where are Caesar and the Roman Legionnaires when we need them most?


Why aren't God,Jesus & The Holy Ghost destroying the BLASPHEMING nation of Israel?
When they are finished maybe they can move on to BLASPHEMING Israel, supporters.
Christians! You are with God or against him.
Enjoy you forever in Hell.
30   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 22, 8:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Booger says
Israeli City to Name Giant Park After U.S President Trump


Oh boy, the Arab terrorists are gonna get upset. Lets hope they kill each other in their wild frenzy.
31   WatermelonUniversity   ignore (6)   2017 Dec 22, 11:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Only 128 countries oppose. Just another highlight of the trump legacy. It will be up there with the Iraq war and “WMD.”

Btw the supposed “blue print” of Iraqi WMD was taken from the movie Resident Evil and no one noticed because they were all got paid to vote yes.
33   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 25, 9:01am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

BorderPatrol says

Only 128 countries oppose. Just another highlight of the trump legacy. It will be up there with the Iraq war and “WMD.”

Of the 128 countries, 57 are Islamic countries. They don't count. Another 50 probably need the Arab oil. They don't count.

Booger says
Guatemala says it is moving embassy in Israel to Jerusalem!

Ha ha ha. It starts with a trickle.
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Supporting Palestine is supporting terrorists. Never reward terrorists be giving them what they want. Always punish them by taking more of what they value the most.
Zero tolerance for terrorism is the only way.
34   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 25, 9:37am   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Palestine was never a city-state. It was a never a nation, or even a culture. The people who claim to be "Palestinians" originated from a group of Slaves during the Ottoman Empire and were made up of arabs, bedouins, and other cultures enslaved by the Ottomans during the time.

"Free Palestine" is basically an anti-zionist jew hating lefitst movement built upon a fairy tale.
35   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 26, 6:49pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

If you watch/read interviews with butthurt Paleban from 1967, they all moan about the humilation to themselves as "Arabs" or "Jordanians". Almost none of them call themselves Palestinians, except for a handful of Soviet Trained VIPs. "Ordinary" former Arab Serfs of the Ottomans seem to have no idea about any "Palestine".

Also, if it's all about the "Occupation" of Jewdea, how come there was no peace in 1947-1966 with Israel? How come the Palestinians never rose up against Egypt, that annexed Gaza, or Jordan, which annexed the "West Bank". The "Palestinians" didn't seem interested in fighting against annexation by Egypt and Jordan. In fact, the "Palestinian" Flag is just the Jordanian flag with a star on it.

Anyway, have some Jews dancing the Trumpahora

Squad goals! 🇺🇸🇮🇱💯 pic.twitter.com/W0D1OPiylv— Mia🎄 (@missmagamia) December 27, 2017
36   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 26, 7:31pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
If you watch/read interviews with butthurt Paleban from 1967, they all moan about the humilation to themselves as "Arabs" or "Jordanians". Almost none of them call themselves Palestinians, except for a handful of Soviet Trained VIPs. "Ordinary" former Arab Serfs of the Ottomans seem to have no idea about any "Palestine".

Also, if it's all about the "Occupation" of Jewdea, how come there was no peace in 1947-1966 with Israel? How come the Palestinians never rose up against Egypt, that annexed Gaza, or Jordan, which annexed the "West Bank". The "Palestinians" didn't seem interested in fighting against annexation by Egypt and Jordan. In fact, the "Palestinian" Flag is just the Jordanian flag with a star on it.


There is something about Muslims that puzzles me . Muslims can do anything to other Muslims and they don't bother to complain. They just continue to kill each other as usual. The moment an infidel does some something to a Muslim the whole Islamic world wants blood, Jihad, and revenge. This is especially true when it comes to Jews and the Christian West.
If Islam is "peaceful" why do we get so much violence from it?
37   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 26, 9:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Strategist says
BorderPatrol says

Only 128 countries oppose. Just another highlight of the trump legacy. It will be up there with the Iraq war and “WMD.”

Of the 128 countries, 57 are Islamic countries. They don't count. Another 50 probably need the Arab oil. They don't count.

Booger says
Guatemala says it is moving embassy in Israel to Jerusalem!

Ha ha ha. It starts with a trickle.
-----
Supporting Palestine is supporting terrorists. Never reward terrorists be giving them what they want. Always punish them by taking more of what they value the most.
Zero tolerance for terrorism is the only way.

You have to laugh. “Only 128 countries.” What? Why don’t you list all those major countries who supported the US? It won’t take long.
38   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 26, 9:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anon_d0b1e says
Strategist says
BorderPatrol says

Only 128 countries oppose. Just another highlight of the trump legacy. It will be up there with the Iraq war and “WMD.”

Of the 128 countries, 57 are Islamic countries. They don't count. Another 50 probably need the Arab oil. They don't count.

Booger says
Guatemala says it is moving embassy in Israel to Jerusalem!

Ha ha ha. It starts with a trickle.
-----
Supporting Palestine is supporting terrorists. Never reward terrorists be giving them what they want. Always punish them by taking more of what they value the most.
Zero tolerance for terrorism is the only way.

You have to laugh. “Only 128 countries.” What? Why don’t you list all t...


When push comes to shove it's the USA who will be supported, because the world needs the USA, not a barbaric loser like some Islamic country.
39   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 26, 9:35pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anon_d0b1e says
You have to laugh. “Only 128 countries.” What? Why don’t you list all those major countries who supported the US? It won’t take long.


Do those countries run entirely on Hydroelectric and Solar? Or do they need a certain something to keep things running, but don't have a World Deployable Military Force to make sure they get it? Especially the poorer ones, whose navy consists of a WW2 PT Boat with a range of 200 miles and a single rusty .50 MG for which the ammo was sold by unpaid sailors long ago? Look out, here comes the Liberian Navy to launch a punitive counter strike on pirates who took on of "their" flagged tankers. Ran out of gas not halfway into the Gulf of Benin.

Besides, it's European Realpolitik for them to stake out positions different than the US. When the rotary device meets the excrement, however, they usually behave differently in fact.
40   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 26, 10:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
anon_d0b1e says
You have to laugh. “Only 128 countries.” What? Why don’t you list all those major countries who supported the US? It won’t take long.


Do those countries run entirely on Hydroelectric and Solar? Or do they need a certain something to keep things running, but don't have a World Deployable Military Force to make sure they get it?

Besides, it's European Realpolitik for them to stake out positions different than the US.

Yeah, or maybe they just disagree with the decision.

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