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Poll: 92% of Democrats ignorant and gullible

By Quigley following x   2017 Dec 10, 9:47am 4,080 views   54 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


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“The liberal mainstream media has pushed the conspiracy that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia during the 2016 election to defeat Hillary Clinton.

This was a lie.

In fact, it was Hillary Clinton and the DNC who colluded to defeat Bernie Sanders in the primary and then colluded with Russia. Democrats and the Obama FBI paid cash for a fake Russiand dossier so they could spy on Donald Trump at Trump Tower.

But Democrat voters are ignorant.
And Democrats rely on the fact that they are stupid and easily played.

A new poll released this week by CBS News found that 92% of Democrats believe Trump advisors had improper dealings with Russia.”

http://www.popnewsmagazine.com/new-poll-finds-92-of-democrats-uninformed-ignorant-and-easily-played/

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15   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 11, 3:52am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

anon_d0bb5 says
biased liberal media couldn't push the old hag across the finish line

She was a bad candidate, but the biased media wrote more sentences that were negative of Clinton than they did of Trump. The bias is only there if you ignore Trump's faults and believe all of the conspiracy theories about Clinton.
16   BlueSardine   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 11, 5:50am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is a disingenuous question.
Clinton In politics 40 years.
Trump 1/5 of that.
If you just count from 2015 onward Trump has the overwhelmingly negative disadvantage.
FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
She was a bad candidate, but the biased media wrote more sentences that were negative of Clinton than they did of Trump
17   BlueSardine   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 11, 5:52am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Just a heads up if you quit jackin off while typing your CAPS key won't stick like that...

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
20   HappyGilmore   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 6:38am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

Ah yes. Only poor people can rightly point out that inequality kills an economy. If a non-poor person wants to tax himself more, that's somehow hypocritical.
21   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 8, 7:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
This was a lie.


Because you say so ?


As to the question of whether there was direct collusion between Trump and the Russians to get him elected, the last word should go to Adam Schiff, the senior Democrat on the House intelligence committee, and the public official who probably has the deepest and widest understanding of this scandal. On CNN Schiff recently declared: “We do know this. The Russians offered help. The campaign accepted help. The Russians gave help, and the president made full use of that help. And that is pretty damning whether it is proof beyond a reasonable doubt of a conspiracy or not.


https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/dec/14/collusion-how-russia-helped-trump-win-the-white-house-by-luke-harding-review
I guess the more you deny that it could be true, the more indignant you can be about the truth when it comes out.
22   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 8, 7:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
A new poll released this week by CBS News found that 92% of Democrats believe Trump advisors had improper dealings with Russia.”


Apparently a lot of key republicans think so too. Otherwise why the big efforts to stop Mueller ?
23   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 12, 3:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Liberals typify a toxic blend of laziness and group-think that are all too common today – a hot mess of hashtags and intolerance that deepen the chasm currently dividing our country.
24   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 4:53pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anon_08dee says
Adam Schiff, the senior Democrat on the House intelligence committee, and the public official who probably has the deepest and widest understanding of this scandal. On CNN Schiff recently declared: “We do know this. The Russians offered help. The campaign accepted help. The Russians gave help, and the president made full use of that help. And that is pretty damning whether it is proof beyond a reasonable doubt of a conspiracy or not.


So a top Democrat with subtle hints of “secret knowledge” says collusion happened. If it did, and he actually knows about it, why isn’t he helping Mueller? Why hasn’t Trump been impeached?

Oh right, because he’s a liar and just using his exalted position to lend weight to his lies.
25   WatermelonUniversity   ignore (6)   2018 Jan 12, 9:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

republicans are just as stupid. apologists and attack dogs for the rich hoping they'll be rich one day but no chance. they are too dumb.

the average of either party are equally stupid and heavily manipulated.
27   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 24, 7:01pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

They have visions of free shit that dance like sugar plums in their brains. Makes them pliable to all manner of unjustified resentments and righteousness.
28   HEYYOU   ignore (17)   2018 Jan 24, 11:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Hope Republicans didn't forget.
IRAQ has WMD.
29   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 25, 8:18am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hillary Election Campaign Reunion
30   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 25, 9:13am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I think you are wrong about the other 8%.
31   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 17, 3:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Five months later and this post is even more true. Now Trump’s lawyer has what Mueller has, and said it’s not only nothing, but it’s proving To be exculpatory! And Leftists everywhere are losing their shit, doubling down on conspiracy. The price of tin foil is going through the roof!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/16/giuliani-on-mueller-report-trump-team-is-ready-to-rip-it-apart.html
32   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 May 17, 7:22pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
not think that you're intellectually superior

You are what you eat. If you REALLY cared that people think you are ignorant and gullible you wouldn't insult them with bullshit from Fox, Limbaugh, Drudge, Breitbart, etc., etc., etc., ... and all those ideologies are straight from GOP bullshit foundations, Heritage Foundation, Harry Bradley Foundation, the Koch Foundation, the Castle Rock Foundation, the Sarah Scaife Foundation. Their corrupting bullshit "teaching machines" were ramped up to full speed even before Reagan took office.

On face value EVERY SINGLE LIE IS AN INSULT TO THE INTELLIGENCE OF ITS AUDIENCE.

You don't know what is real from what serves your masters do you? Hahahaha

You might have been reasonably sophisticated before you opted to consume this oligarch shit in daily doses because you got a job and 401k right now and feel pretty smug about that. hahahaha Having a commute is no excuse to fall under the spell of those radio hosts pushing your buttons. Oh is it? Then you deserve ridicule until you

Your supervisor may still have a use for you if you are young, accommodating, underpaid, and are a good fuck-weasel, but your day is coming, pal.

Open your vestigial eyes. hahahaha

Said oligarchs got half the country running around trying to teach the other half that they are sooooo smart because they all want to have their throats cut financially. LOL LOL LOL That's zombie Reagan shit that's probably causing oligarchs to spill their cigar ash even as we read here.

More and more as social issues are spun around backwards by the wrong=right they CONSTANTLY create life-or-death situations for hard working people. OOPS, pretty hard to argue with that!

Quigley says
but it’s proving To be exculpatory!

according to who? where? what?

I hope you feel so special.
33   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 May 17, 7:29pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says
They have visions of free shit that dance like sugar plums in their brains. Makes them pliable to all manner of unjustified resentments and righteousness.

Memes make people feel so clever, no really, see?
34   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 May 17, 7:38pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
They have visions of free shit that dance like sugar

This exemplifies a meme that is promoted by those bullshit foundations.

What you are doing is demonizing the taxpayers for having a self interest that puts the benefit of corporations subordinate to the benefit of those who comprise the electorate.

This "Free shit" meme is again toxic and the result of vile propaganda that exists to condemn any and all from self interest apart from corporations which seek to control all government if not to own it outright, otherwise why would they employ tens of thousands of lobbyists? For a government that can't do anything right? Fucking a bucko, it's thier crooked money that is the reason why government gets spun around against every single fucking thing we vote for.

So what next?

We are just supposed to fucking give up and hand everything over to corporations?

Oh yes, that's the ticket. No one's ever going to call you "ignorant and gullible" for advocating that particular form of suicide.

Can you fucking even imagine an America that is not brought to its knees by the same corporations that were allowed to exist to serve them????
35   HEYYOU   ignore (17)   2018 May 17, 7:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz,
Now here's a meme.

Fuck Republicans!

...
How about a challenge? We know who the stupid Rep/Cons that post their retardism are,on patnet.
Don't read or respond to their shit.
Do you have any balls or are just just another troll?

I'll miss making them look like fools.
36   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 May 17, 8:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
I'll miss making them look like fools.

I stay away because it hurts to see people this way.

I comment, that is all, because I can't help it sometimes.

I feel a need to plant seeds like the need to believe in the existence of a meritocracy, belief in the corporation having the high ground are memes that the corporations tend to internally each and every day and they act as if there really are rewards for believers, if they just believe hard enough, but that's where corporate greed takes over and penetrates the charade.

Moral high ground, meritocracy ... these are the cornerstone lies that get the younger generations to resonate with the corporate message of domination as if it were a righteous thing and not the road to serfdom and defeat as a population.

AS IF THEY COULD ASPIRE TO TAKE PART IN THAT CORPORATE DOMINATION.

Just offstage in the quasi-blithe secrecy of management there are the planners who administrate the real corporate values, the value that lower wages is the ultimate qualification anyone could ever possess, and that you WILL BE preached to assume a sense of partnership and entrepreneurship until you are all kicked out of there the moment it becomes feasible. Hahahaha suckers!

Good luck all you poor babies. Have another cup of coffee. Don't spill on the nice carpet. Oh wait, the nice carpet is only in the executive offices area. hahahahhaa. Mind you don't take too many cardboard boxes, they are expensive!!!

Lower wages is one area where the rich kids get to dominate the work place and hold on to steady jobs the way that the hard workers fuck up every single time. Rich kids don't really care about a high rate of pay. It doesn't matter to them because mom and dad helped them into their house, handed down their cars too, put that pool in their yard, and helped them now and then when financial trouble came along, and then there is that trust money too.
37   TrumpingTits   ignore (0)   2018 May 17, 9:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
Republicans would never hurl blanket accusations like that at 92% of Democrats.


You're right. I call 97% of them libtards, not 92%.
38   marcus   ignore (4)   2018 May 17, 10:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
“The liberal mainstream media has pushed the conspiracy that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia during the 2016 election to defeat Hillary Clinton.

This was a lie.


Actually that's a lie.

The investigation was only becasue of the possibility that the Trump campaign colluded with Russians, based on the fact that Russians were involved in bombing key social media markets with anti Hillary fake news, and the Manafort connection and Trump Jr meetings with Russians in which information was offered on Hillary, and probably other reasons that the FBI had suspicions.

It was always an investigation. I don't know of anyone that claimed Trump committed treason. I guess many of us are guilty of thinking that based on what we know of Trump, it seems TOTALLY like something he would do given the chance. He loves Putin for some reason. So we believed that he might have, and that it should be investigated, based on facts. But even still, all we did was believe that there was reason to investigate whether he did collude with the Russians.

How is this a lie ? Even in your bubble world, I don't get how this is a lie.Oh yeah. I forgot. Republicans live in a world filled with lies and don't actually know what the word "truth" means.
39   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (33)   2018 May 18, 12:20am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

A Democrat who is not sucking TRUMPLIGULA!'s dick is just proving how stupid and hostile to FREEDOM! they are!
40   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 May 18, 4:20am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Actually that's a lie.


So the MSM doesn't think Trump colluded with Russia? Haha, ok.

marcus says
the fact that Russians were involved in bombing key social media markets with anti Hillary fake news


You are forgetting the anti trump fake news they also put out there AND the fact that these people haven't been connected to Russian government. The idea that these people influenced the election is fake news.
41   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 18, 4:28am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

The assertion that the Trump campaign collided with russia to get Trump elected was a lie, a fabrication, a fiction created out of whole cloth by the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and a whole fuckload of NeverTrumpers which took on a life of its own and eventually became a quasi-religion. Mueller was the high priest and released sanctifying subpoenas to appease the masses of whining Leftists. It was all very sad and frustrating for those of us who hadn’t lost our damn minds.
42   marcus   ignore (4)   2018 May 18, 6:30am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
You are forgetting the anti trump fake news they also put out there


No I'm not. I was referring to A COMBINATION OF FACTORS.

marcus says
based on the fact that Russians were involved in bombing key social media markets with anti Hillary fake news, and the Manafort connection and Trump Jr meetings with Russians in which information was offered on Hillary, and probably other reasons that the FBI had suspicions.


It was the combination of these things, further combined with things that Trump himself has said and done over the years, that made it something that needed to be investigated.

CBOEtrader says
So the MSM doesn't think Trump colluded with Russia?


That is correct. The MSM believes that Russian involvement (influence) in the election is being investigated, including and investigation of possible involvement of Trumps campaign.
43   mell   ignore (2)   2018 May 18, 7:44am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
The assertion that the Trump campaign collided with russia to get Trump elected was a lie, a fabrication, a fiction created out of whole cloth by the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and a whole fuckload of NeverTrumpers which took on a life of its own and eventually became a quasi-religion. Mueller was the high priest and released sanctifying subpoenas to appease the masses of whining Leftists. It was all very sad and frustrating for those of us who hadn’t lost our damn minds.


lol pretty much.
44   marcus   ignore (4)   2018 May 18, 8:50am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
It was all very sad and frustrating for those of us who hadn’t lost our damn minds.


You mean those watching Brietbart, Infowars, Rush Limbaugh and listening to talk radio ? Those are exactly the folks that did lose their damn minds, long ago.

Proof: The outright and total inability to distinguish between outright lies and fantasies versus facts and reality.

I can respect the republicans I know that voted for Trump while acknowledging that they dislike him and see him as the most dishonest public figure ever. They just voted for him because of supreme court or because they buy a lot of the Hillary propaganda.

But that's not the point of view of most of the right winger Brietbart reading Trump cucks around here.
45   edvard   ignore (2)   2018 May 18, 8:57am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Whenever I read stuff like this I always have to ask myself if those who post such things ever really sit back and look at the big picture.

So the reality today, as we speak, is that we have a man in office who:

-in fact is under several investigations, and not just the Russian thing. He's fully admitted to paying off a porn star.
-He's got a lawyer who is in hot water.
-His son met with a foreign power to dig up dirt on another candidate.
-He blames literally everyone and everything for anything he gets caught saying or doing, going after the press- ALL of the press- if they do something like post his actual tweets. -He attacks other people- even members of his own staff- all the time.
-He fires people who don't agree with him.
-He holds great big rallies and when he's not doing that he's probably playing golf at a resort and even charges the secret service to use the golf carts.
-At this point has broken all 10 of the 10 commandments, a few of them several times.

I could go on here but strip away party affiliation and we have a person who outright abuses his power and goes against even the most basic of our democratic freedoms. Perhaps in another time or period of history in this country people from BOTH sides of the isle would've rejected this kind of behavior. I can tell folks here for fact that my 97 year old grandmother, who's husband fought in WW2- a women who ALWAYS voted for the Republican despises Trump. She lived through a period of time where people in this country rejected the very sort of behavior Trump exhibits.

What I see from his supporters is denial. A LOT of denial. Denial that they in fact elected a person who in actuality goes against their own principles and furthermore, they've doubled down on this support. The worse he behaves, the more damning the growing evidence of his wrongdoing reveals itself, the more obvious it becomes to everyone that he's just a cheap snakeoil salesman the more blindly devoted and defensive they become.

We're living in very strange times in this country. We are on the cusp of a massive demographic shift. This shift will change the balance of power. Whenever there is a change like this those whom had the power of course will likely become more defensive. I suspect Trump and his seemingly un-phased supporters know this deep down inside.

At the end of the day Trump and his supporters won't accomplish much of anything other than to put a dark stain in the history books for tommorow's children to read. The country will continue to evolve, progress and move forward regardless of whatever Trump does. All that he does will be reversed with the next admin. Trump is simply a temporary road block but even so, on a very minor scale.

Lastly... yell, shout, and berate till the cows come home. Don't like the 3 ring circus? Vote. That's right, vote. Only 40% of the country supports Trump. The 60% of us who don't have a job to do and now more than ever that duty to country is crucial if we want to change the story.
46   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 18, 10:49am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Proof: The outright and total inability to distinguish between outright lies and fantasies versus facts and reality.


Clearly English is not your thing. This is neither a proof, nor even a sentence! In fact, I suspect we all are a little dumber for having read it.
47   Nobody   ignore (0)   2018 May 18, 12:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

There we go again. The Republicans have truly fooled people into thinking they actually care. Look at the last tax reform. It only helped the rich.
48   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 May 18, 8:52pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
marcus says
Proof: The outright and total inability to distinguish between outright lies and fantasies versus facts and reality.


Clearly English is not your thing. This is neither a proof, nor even a sentence! In fact, I suspect we all are a little dumber for having read it.

Anyone need someone to explain the comment because they've been consuming the media contrived to render their audiences more inept each time they listen?
49   marcus   ignore (4)   2018 May 18, 9:29pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
It was all very sad and frustrating for those of us who hadn’t lost our damn minds.
edvard says

today, as we speak, is that we have a man in office who:
-in fact is under several investigations, and not just the Russian thing. He's fully admitted to paying off a porn star.
-He's got a lawyer who is in hot water.
-His son met with a foreign power to dig up dirt on another candidate.
-He blames literally everyone and everything for anything he gets caught saying or doing, going after the press- ALL of the press- if they do something like post his actual tweets. -He attacks other people- even members of his own staff- all the time.
-He fires people who don't agree with him.
-He holds great big rallies and when he's not doing that he's probably playing golf at a resort and even charges the secret service to use the golf carts.
-At this point has broken all 10 of the 10 commandments, a few of them several times.

I could go on here but strip away party affiliation and we have a person who outright abuses his power and goes against even the most basic of our democratic freedoms. Perhaps in another time or period of history in this country people from BOTH sides of the isle would've rejected this kind of behavior. I can tell folks here for fact that my 97 year old grandmother, who's husband fought in WW2- a women who ALWAYS voted for the Republican despises Trump. She lived through a period of time where people in this country rejected the very sort of behavior Trump exhibits.

What I see from his supporters is denial. A LOT of denial. Denial that they in fact elected a person who in actuality goes against their own principles and furthermore, they've doubled down on this support. The worse he behaves, the more damning the growing evidence of his wrongdoing reveals itself, the more obvious it becomes to everyone that he's just a cheap snakeoil salesman the more blindly devoted and defensive they become.


Edvard sums it up very well, and Mell is right, it is sad.
50   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 May 18, 11:08pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Edvard sums it up very well, and Mell is right, it is sad.

It may be more than sad. There is no guarantee the human race survives this massive build up of nuclear arms. Not just nuclear accidents but Trump claims to develop small enough nuclear weapons to use in battles.

What contractor would ever refuse even the blackest money? --I can promise you that NONE of them would do that. This IS an amoral world.

Also there is no guarantee the human race survives this administration's policies of deliberate exacerbation of global warming, already people are dying from the climate change in certain places and maybe more than we now realize. The party line is absolutely criminal way beyond the poor people that end up dying from deliberately heightened scarcity of life necessities.

A huge culling of the human race can occur. These bosses know that too and they wash their hands on inhuman ideological grounds.

Trillions for oil, spoils of war, greater empire and decency gets murdered again every day.

People outlive their money and they freeze to death. It happens. Don't be surprised.

People take drugs and die. No surprise there either, yet when people do it they act like it can't happen.

We can deflect an asteroid now but this IS an amoral world, and there is no power in the universe that can save us from getting exactly what we deserve from our collective actions as a human race where decency gets murdered out of existence. Anyone could go on about lots of other over-the-top outrageousness that reigns over us all.

So make your peace.

Boycott.

Lay low.

Try to be good to each other.

Do what you can when you can.
51   mell   ignore (2)   2018 May 19, 7:37am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Any minute now
52   TrumpingTits   ignore (0)   2018 May 20, 9:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Nobody says
Look at the last tax reform. It only helped the rich.

So 91% of the income-tax paying population are all 'rich', then?
53   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 May 20, 11:20pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
a man in office who:
-in fact is under several investigations


Not true. Mueller's investigation has specifically stated that Trump is not a target of the investigation. Obama's admin is now officially under investigation for spying on Trump's campaign though, AND HRC is still under espionage investigation for her email/Weiner blunders.

marcus says
-He's got a lawyer who is in hot water.


Yup. That dude is a slimeball. Trump however, is still not under investigation in any way.

marcus says
-His son met with a foreign power to dig up dirt on another candidate.


This is not a crime and nothing occurred after the meeting. Obama's admin and HRC otoh hired and paid for foreign spies to literally dig up dirt on Trump... somehow the TDS afflicted don't see the hypocrisy in their Trump Jr indictment.

The rest of the list is pure garbage.

Look I get it. Trump's personality leaves plenty to be desired. So what? I dont care how a president tweets. I want a president who respects the republic and puts america first. Trump so far is the POTUS who has done the best job, IMHO.
54   everything   ignore (1)   2018 May 21, 8:37am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Posts like this just reinforce the showing of a nation in turmoil. Most all politicians are crooks, get used to it. Corruption in politics is rampant worldwide. For instance U.S. politicians finally openly admitted it's pay to play, may as well get people used to the fact.

A good example of a low rate of corruption is Norway. They setup a sovereign wealth fund with 250 million dollars in 1996, it's worth a trillion today.

https://www.transparency.org/country/USA

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