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Poll: 92% of Democrats ignorant and gullible


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2017 Dec 10, 9:47am   15,569 views  42 comments

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“The liberal mainstream media has pushed the conspiracy that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia during the 2016 election to defeat Hillary Clinton.

This was a lie.

In fact, it was Hillary Clinton and the DNC who colluded to defeat Bernie Sanders in the primary and then colluded with Russia. Democrats and the Obama FBI paid cash for a fake Russiand dossier so they could spy on Donald Trump at Trump Tower.

But Democrat voters are ignorant.
And Democrats rely on the fact that they are stupid and easily played.

A new poll released this week by CBS News found that 92% of Democrats believe Trump advisors had improper dealings with Russia.”

http://www.popnewsmagazine.com/new-poll-finds-92-of-democrats-uninformed-ignorant-and-easily-played/

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1   MrMagic   2017 Dec 10, 10:11am  

Quigley says
But Democrat voters are ignorant.
And Democrats rely on the fact that they are stupid and easily played.


2   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Dec 10, 11:06am  

Quigley says
But Democrat voters are ignorant.

They are also assholes. They agreed with Hillary that half of Trump supporters were deplorable. Republicans would never hurl blanket accusations like that at 92% of Democrats.
On a side note, what is a bigger insult, calling someone deplorable or ignorant and gullible?
4   anonymous   2017 Dec 10, 2:16pm  

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
On a side note, what is a bigger insult, calling someone deplorable or ignorant and gullible?


In the case of the ignorant and gullible, that's accurate regarding the democrats, not an insult.

Why do you think Sanders did so well?
5   bob2356   2017 Dec 10, 2:30pm  

Quigley says
Poll: 92% of Democrats ignorant and gullible


That's 8% better then the republican party.
6   mell   2017 Dec 10, 2:45pm  

bob2356 says
Quigley says
Poll: 92% of Democrats ignorant and gullible


That's 8% better then the republican party.


Who gives a shit? You are supposed to carry out the will of the people and not think that you're intellectually superior - which most clearly aren't. There's nothing worse than an intellectually snobby attitude towards the common people. Trump deservedly won, after leftoids made fun of him feasting on a KFC meal and other "faux-pas". It's time to send the career politicians to hell.
7   anonymous   2017 Dec 10, 3:21pm  

mell says
Trump deservedly won, after leftoids made fun of him feasting on a KFC meal and other "faux-pas". It's time to send the career politicians to hell.


This line of thinking is so ridiculous too. Are you trying to tell me that these "common" people didn't do 100 times worse on Hillary? How many memes were there of Clinton? How many threads were made on pat.net devoted to her pant suits?

Anyone who thinks their opponents looked down on them needs to look in a mirror.
8   anonymous   2017 Dec 10, 3:23pm  

mell says
You are supposed to carry out the will of the people


Well, Trump is failing miserably then. The Republican tax plan has about a 30% approval rating.


mell says
There's nothing worse than an intellectually snobby attitude towards the common people.


Yes, there is. A snobby attitude and condescension towards education and educated people is worse. Much worse.
9   Shaman   2017 Dec 10, 7:30pm  

anon_3b28c says
towards education and educated people


If all your education points you towards an obviously ridiculous position, it’s clear that your education time was time wasted. Not all schools or programs are created equal.
10   anonymous   2017 Dec 10, 7:32pm  

anon_3b28c says
The Republican tax plan has about a 30% approval rating.



Thanks to the power of the liberal media. See, brainwashing and liberal education works!

Liberal Millennials Love Trump's Tax Plan...When They Think It's Bernie's.
Liberals apparently love some elements of President Trump’s tax plan—that is, when they think it’s actually Sen. Bernie Sanders’s plan. Campus Reform headed to George Washington University in Washington, D.C. to talk with students about tax issues. The interviewer started out asking students what they thought of Trump’s tax plan—without specifics. The responses ranged from “it’s not the most efficient, nor beneficial to the general populous” to “it’s better for the upper class than anyone else.”

Then Campus Reform decided to ask those same students about Sanders’s fictitious tax plan, which were actually parts of Trump's plan.

One student said of the plan to enhance the child tax credit, “I think that’s great,” while another said it’s a “positive, definitely.”

In the end they all acknowledged their bias toward anything related to Trump.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2017/10/20/millennials-love-trump-tax-plan-n2398095
11   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Dec 10, 7:41pm  

The Redless Scare is in full force.

These things fade out with time, but the danger is that they result in stupid policies and decisions, like the ban on Alcohol or a Blacklist for being a dumb college student 20 years before.
12   anonymous   2017 Dec 10, 7:53pm  

anon_23098 says
Thanks to the power of the liberal media. See, brainwashing and liberal education works!


lol--where was this power in 2016 on election night?
13   anonymous   2017 Dec 10, 8:49pm  

anon_3b28c says
lol--where was this power in 2016 on election night?


That's what happens when the Dems run a totally shitty candidate, even the biased liberal media couldn't push the old hag across the finish line!
14   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Dec 11, 3:52am  

anon_d0bb5 says
biased liberal media couldn't push the old hag across the finish line

She was a bad candidate, but the biased media wrote more sentences that were negative of Clinton than they did of Trump. The bias is only there if you ignore Trump's faults and believe all of the conspiracy theories about Clinton.
15   Y   2017 Dec 11, 5:50am  

This is a disingenuous question.
Clinton In politics 40 years.
Trump 1/5 of that.
If you just count from 2015 onward Trump has the overwhelmingly negative disadvantage.
FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
She was a bad candidate, but the biased media wrote more sentences that were negative of Clinton than they did of Trump
16   Y   2017 Dec 11, 5:52am  

Just a heads up if you quit jackin off while typing your CAPS key won't stick like that...

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
17   anonymous   2017 Dec 24, 5:27pm  

19   HappyGilmore   2018 Jan 8, 6:38am  

Ah yes. Only poor people can rightly point out that inequality kills an economy. If a non-poor person wants to tax himself more, that's somehow hypocritical.
20   anonymous   2018 Jan 8, 7:47am  

Quigley says
This was a lie.


Because you say so ?


As to the question of whether there was direct collusion between Trump and the Russians to get him elected, the last word should go to Adam Schiff, the senior Democrat on the House intelligence committee, and the public official who probably has the deepest and widest understanding of this scandal. On CNN Schiff recently declared: “We do know this. The Russians offered help. The campaign accepted help. The Russians gave help, and the president made full use of that help. And that is pretty damning whether it is proof beyond a reasonable doubt of a conspiracy or not.


https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/dec/14/collusion-how-russia-helped-trump-win-the-white-house-by-luke-harding-review
I guess the more you deny that it could be true, the more indignant you can be about the truth when it comes out.
21   anonymous   2018 Jan 8, 7:47am  

Quigley says
A new poll released this week by CBS News found that 92% of Democrats believe Trump advisors had improper dealings with Russia.”


Apparently a lot of key republicans think so too. Otherwise why the big efforts to stop Mueller ?
22   anonymous   2018 Jan 12, 3:49pm  

Liberals typify a toxic blend of laziness and group-think that are all too common today – a hot mess of hashtags and intolerance that deepen the chasm currently dividing our country.
23   Shaman   2018 Jan 12, 4:53pm  

anon_08dee says
Adam Schiff, the senior Democrat on the House intelligence committee, and the public official who probably has the deepest and widest understanding of this scandal. On CNN Schiff recently declared: “We do know this. The Russians offered help. The campaign accepted help. The Russians gave help, and the president made full use of that help. And that is pretty damning whether it is proof beyond a reasonable doubt of a conspiracy or not.


So a top Democrat with subtle hints of “secret knowledge” says collusion happened. If it did, and he actually knows about it, why isn’t he helping Mueller? Why hasn’t Trump been impeached?

Oh right, because he’s a liar and just using his exalted position to lend weight to his lies.
24   WatermelonUniversity   2018 Jan 12, 9:53pm  

republicans are just as stupid. apologists and attack dogs for the rich hoping they'll be rich one day but no chance. they are too dumb.

the average of either party are equally stupid and heavily manipulated.
26   Ceffer   2018 Jan 24, 7:01pm  

They have visions of free shit that dance like sugar plums in their brains. Makes them pliable to all manner of unjustified resentments and righteousness.
27   anonymous   2018 Jan 25, 8:18am  

Hillary Election Campaign Reunion
28   FortWayne   2018 Jan 25, 9:13am  

I think you are wrong about the other 8%.
29   Shaman   2018 May 17, 3:06pm  

Five months later and this post is even more true. Now Trump’s lawyer has what Mueller has, and said it’s not only nothing, but it’s proving To be exculpatory! And Leftists everywhere are losing their shit, doubling down on conspiracy. The price of tin foil is going through the roof!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/16/giuliani-on-mueller-report-trump-team-is-ready-to-rip-it-apart.html
30   marcus   2018 May 17, 10:34pm  

Quigley says
“The liberal mainstream media has pushed the conspiracy that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia during the 2016 election to defeat Hillary Clinton.

This was a lie.


Actually that's a lie.

The investigation was only becasue of the possibility that the Trump campaign colluded with Russians, based on the fact that Russians were involved in bombing key social media markets with anti Hillary fake news, and the Manafort connection and Trump Jr meetings with Russians in which information was offered on Hillary, and probably other reasons that the FBI had suspicions.

It was always an investigation. I don't know of anyone that claimed Trump committed treason. I guess many of us are guilty of thinking that based on what we know of Trump, it seems TOTALLY like something he would do given the chance. He loves Putin for some reason. So we believed that he might have, and that it should be investigated, based on facts. But even still, all we did was believe that there was reason to investigate whether he did collude with the Russians.

How is this a lie ? Even in your bubble world, I don't get how this is a lie.Oh yeah. I forgot. Republicans live in a world filled with lies and don't actually know what the word "truth" means.
31   CBOEtrader   2018 May 18, 4:20am  

marcus says
Actually that's a lie.


So the MSM doesn't think Trump colluded with Russia? Haha, ok.

marcus says
the fact that Russians were involved in bombing key social media markets with anti Hillary fake news


You are forgetting the anti trump fake news they also put out there AND the fact that these people haven't been connected to Russian government. The idea that these people influenced the election is fake news.
32   Shaman   2018 May 18, 4:28am  

The assertion that the Trump campaign collided with russia to get Trump elected was a lie, a fabrication, a fiction created out of whole cloth by the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and a whole fuckload of NeverTrumpers which took on a life of its own and eventually became a quasi-religion. Mueller was the high priest and released sanctifying subpoenas to appease the masses of whining Leftists. It was all very sad and frustrating for those of us who hadn’t lost our damn minds.
33   marcus   2018 May 18, 6:30am  

CBOEtrader says
You are forgetting the anti trump fake news they also put out there


No I'm not. I was referring to A COMBINATION OF FACTORS.

marcus says
based on the fact that Russians were involved in bombing key social media markets with anti Hillary fake news, and the Manafort connection and Trump Jr meetings with Russians in which information was offered on Hillary, and probably other reasons that the FBI had suspicions.


It was the combination of these things, further combined with things that Trump himself has said and done over the years, that made it something that needed to be investigated.

CBOEtrader says
So the MSM doesn't think Trump colluded with Russia?


That is correct. The MSM believes that Russian involvement (influence) in the election is being investigated, including and investigation of possible involvement of Trumps campaign.
34   mell   2018 May 18, 7:44am  

Quigley says
The assertion that the Trump campaign collided with russia to get Trump elected was a lie, a fabrication, a fiction created out of whole cloth by the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and a whole fuckload of NeverTrumpers which took on a life of its own and eventually became a quasi-religion. Mueller was the high priest and released sanctifying subpoenas to appease the masses of whining Leftists. It was all very sad and frustrating for those of us who hadn’t lost our damn minds.


lol pretty much.
35   marcus   2018 May 18, 8:50am  

mell says
It was all very sad and frustrating for those of us who hadn’t lost our damn minds.


You mean those watching Brietbart, Infowars, Rush Limbaugh and listening to talk radio ? Those are exactly the folks that did lose their damn minds, long ago.

Proof: The outright and total inability to distinguish between outright lies and fantasies versus facts and reality.

I can respect the republicans I know that voted for Trump while acknowledging that they dislike him and see him as the most dishonest public figure ever. They just voted for him because of supreme court or because they buy a lot of the Hillary propaganda.

But that's not the point of view of most of the right winger Brietbart reading Trump cucks around here.
36   edvard   2018 May 18, 8:57am  

Whenever I read stuff like this I always have to ask myself if those who post such things ever really sit back and look at the big picture.

So the reality today, as we speak, is that we have a man in office who:

-in fact is under several investigations, and not just the Russian thing. He's fully admitted to paying off a porn star.
-He's got a lawyer who is in hot water.
-His son met with a foreign power to dig up dirt on another candidate.
-He blames literally everyone and everything for anything he gets caught saying or doing, going after the press- ALL of the press- if they do something like post his actual tweets. -He attacks other people- even members of his own staff- all the time.
-He fires people who don't agree with him.
-He holds great big rallies and when he's not doing that he's probably playing golf at a resort and even charges the secret service to use the golf carts.
-At this point has broken all 10 of the 10 commandments, a few of them several times.

I could go on here but strip away party affiliation and we have a person who outright abuses his power and goes against even the most basic of our democratic freedoms. Perhaps in another time or period of history in this country people from BOTH sides of the isle would've rejected this kind of behavior. I can tell folks here for fact that my 97 year old grandmother, who's husband fought in WW2- a women who ALWAYS voted for the Republican despises Trump. She lived through a period of time where people in this country rejected the very sort of behavior Trump exhibits.

What I see from his supporters is denial. A LOT of denial. Denial that they in fact elected a person who in actuality goes against their own principles and furthermore, they've doubled down on this support. The worse he behaves, the more damning the growing evidence of his wrongdoing reveals itself, the more obvious it becomes to everyone that he's just a cheap snakeoil salesman the more blindly devoted and defensive they become.

We're living in very strange times in this country. We are on the cusp of a massive demographic shift. This shift will change the balance of power. Whenever there is a change like this those whom had the power of course will likely become more defensive. I suspect Trump and his seemingly un-phased supporters know this deep down inside.

At the end of the day Trump and his supporters won't accomplish much of anything other than to put a dark stain in the history books for tommorow's children to read. The country will continue to evolve, progress and move forward regardless of whatever Trump does. All that he does will be reversed with the next admin. Trump is simply a temporary road block but even so, on a very minor scale.

Lastly... yell, shout, and berate till the cows come home. Don't like the 3 ring circus? Vote. That's right, vote. Only 40% of the country supports Trump. The 60% of us who don't have a job to do and now more than ever that duty to country is crucial if we want to change the story.
37   Shaman   2018 May 18, 10:49am  

marcus says
Proof: The outright and total inability to distinguish between outright lies and fantasies versus facts and reality.


Clearly English is not your thing. This is neither a proof, nor even a sentence! In fact, I suspect we all are a little dumber for having read it.
38   Nobody   2018 May 18, 12:06pm  

There we go again. The Republicans have truly fooled people into thinking they actually care. Look at the last tax reform. It only helped the rich.
39   marcus   2018 May 18, 9:29pm  

mell says
It was all very sad and frustrating for those of us who hadn’t lost our damn minds.
edvard says

today, as we speak, is that we have a man in office who:
-in fact is under several investigations, and not just the Russian thing. He's fully admitted to paying off a porn star.
-He's got a lawyer who is in hot water.
-His son met with a foreign power to dig up dirt on another candidate.
-He blames literally everyone and everything for anything he gets caught saying or doing, going after the press- ALL of the press- if they do something like post his actual tweets. -He attacks other people- even members of his own staff- all the time.
-He fires people who don't agree with him.
-He holds great big rallies and when he's not doing that he's probably playing golf at a resort and even charges the secret service to use the golf carts.
-At this point has broken all 10 of the 10 commandments, a few of them several times.

I could go on here but strip away party affiliation and we have a person who outright abuses his power and goes against even the most basic of our democratic freedoms. Perhaps in another time or period of history in this country people from BOTH sides of the isle would've rejected this kind of behavior. I can tell folks here for fact that my 97 year old grandmother, who's husband fought in WW2- a women who ALWAYS voted for the Republican despises Trump. She lived through a period of time where people in this country rejected the very sort of behavior Trump exhibits.

What I see from his supporters is denial. A LOT of denial. Denial that they in fact elected a person who in actuality goes against their own principles and furthermore, they've doubled down on this support. The worse he behaves, the more damning the growing evidence of his wrongdoing reveals itself, the more obvious it becomes to everyone that he's just a cheap snakeoil salesman the more blindly devoted and defensive they become.


Edvard sums it up very well, and Mell is right, it is sad.
40   mell   2018 May 19, 7:37am  

Any minute now

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