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Poll: 92% of Democrats ignorant and gullible

By Quigley following x   2017 Dec 10, 9:47am 4,128 views   54 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


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“The liberal mainstream media has pushed the conspiracy that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia during the 2016 election to defeat Hillary Clinton.

This was a lie.

In fact, it was Hillary Clinton and the DNC who colluded to defeat Bernie Sanders in the primary and then colluded with Russia. Democrats and the Obama FBI paid cash for a fake Russiand dossier so they could spy on Donald Trump at Trump Tower.

But Democrat voters are ignorant.
And Democrats rely on the fact that they are stupid and easily played.

A new poll released this week by CBS News found that 92% of Democrats believe Trump advisors had improper dealings with Russia.”

http://www.popnewsmagazine.com/new-poll-finds-92-of-democrats-uninformed-ignorant-and-easily-played/

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41   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 18, 4:28am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

The assertion that the Trump campaign collided with russia to get Trump elected was a lie, a fabrication, a fiction created out of whole cloth by the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and a whole fuckload of NeverTrumpers which took on a life of its own and eventually became a quasi-religion. Mueller was the high priest and released sanctifying subpoenas to appease the masses of whining Leftists. It was all very sad and frustrating for those of us who hadn’t lost our damn minds.
42   marcus   ignore (4)   2018 May 18, 6:30am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
You are forgetting the anti trump fake news they also put out there


No I'm not. I was referring to A COMBINATION OF FACTORS.

marcus says
based on the fact that Russians were involved in bombing key social media markets with anti Hillary fake news, and the Manafort connection and Trump Jr meetings with Russians in which information was offered on Hillary, and probably other reasons that the FBI had suspicions.


It was the combination of these things, further combined with things that Trump himself has said and done over the years, that made it something that needed to be investigated.

CBOEtrader says
So the MSM doesn't think Trump colluded with Russia?


That is correct. The MSM believes that Russian involvement (influence) in the election is being investigated, including and investigation of possible involvement of Trumps campaign.
43   mell   ignore (2)   2018 May 18, 7:44am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
The assertion that the Trump campaign collided with russia to get Trump elected was a lie, a fabrication, a fiction created out of whole cloth by the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and a whole fuckload of NeverTrumpers which took on a life of its own and eventually became a quasi-religion. Mueller was the high priest and released sanctifying subpoenas to appease the masses of whining Leftists. It was all very sad and frustrating for those of us who hadn’t lost our damn minds.


lol pretty much.
44   marcus   ignore (4)   2018 May 18, 8:50am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
It was all very sad and frustrating for those of us who hadn’t lost our damn minds.


You mean those watching Brietbart, Infowars, Rush Limbaugh and listening to talk radio ? Those are exactly the folks that did lose their damn minds, long ago.

Proof: The outright and total inability to distinguish between outright lies and fantasies versus facts and reality.

I can respect the republicans I know that voted for Trump while acknowledging that they dislike him and see him as the most dishonest public figure ever. They just voted for him because of supreme court or because they buy a lot of the Hillary propaganda.

But that's not the point of view of most of the right winger Brietbart reading Trump cucks around here.
45   edvard   ignore (2)   2018 May 18, 8:57am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Whenever I read stuff like this I always have to ask myself if those who post such things ever really sit back and look at the big picture.

So the reality today, as we speak, is that we have a man in office who:

-in fact is under several investigations, and not just the Russian thing. He's fully admitted to paying off a porn star.
-He's got a lawyer who is in hot water.
-His son met with a foreign power to dig up dirt on another candidate.
-He blames literally everyone and everything for anything he gets caught saying or doing, going after the press- ALL of the press- if they do something like post his actual tweets. -He attacks other people- even members of his own staff- all the time.
-He fires people who don't agree with him.
-He holds great big rallies and when he's not doing that he's probably playing golf at a resort and even charges the secret service to use the golf carts.
-At this point has broken all 10 of the 10 commandments, a few of them several times.

I could go on here but strip away party affiliation and we have a person who outright abuses his power and goes against even the most basic of our democratic freedoms. Perhaps in another time or period of history in this country people from BOTH sides of the isle would've rejected this kind of behavior. I can tell folks here for fact that my 97 year old grandmother, who's husband fought in WW2- a women who ALWAYS voted for the Republican despises Trump. She lived through a period of time where people in this country rejected the very sort of behavior Trump exhibits.

What I see from his supporters is denial. A LOT of denial. Denial that they in fact elected a person who in actuality goes against their own principles and furthermore, they've doubled down on this support. The worse he behaves, the more damning the growing evidence of his wrongdoing reveals itself, the more obvious it becomes to everyone that he's just a cheap snakeoil salesman the more blindly devoted and defensive they become.

We're living in very strange times in this country. We are on the cusp of a massive demographic shift. This shift will change the balance of power. Whenever there is a change like this those whom had the power of course will likely become more defensive. I suspect Trump and his seemingly un-phased supporters know this deep down inside.

At the end of the day Trump and his supporters won't accomplish much of anything other than to put a dark stain in the history books for tommorow's children to read. The country will continue to evolve, progress and move forward regardless of whatever Trump does. All that he does will be reversed with the next admin. Trump is simply a temporary road block but even so, on a very minor scale.

Lastly... yell, shout, and berate till the cows come home. Don't like the 3 ring circus? Vote. That's right, vote. Only 40% of the country supports Trump. The 60% of us who don't have a job to do and now more than ever that duty to country is crucial if we want to change the story.
46   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 18, 10:49am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Proof: The outright and total inability to distinguish between outright lies and fantasies versus facts and reality.


Clearly English is not your thing. This is neither a proof, nor even a sentence! In fact, I suspect we all are a little dumber for having read it.
47   Nobody   ignore (0)   2018 May 18, 12:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

There we go again. The Republicans have truly fooled people into thinking they actually care. Look at the last tax reform. It only helped the rich.
48   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 May 18, 8:52pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
marcus says
Proof: The outright and total inability to distinguish between outright lies and fantasies versus facts and reality.


Clearly English is not your thing. This is neither a proof, nor even a sentence! In fact, I suspect we all are a little dumber for having read it.

Anyone need someone to explain the comment because they've been consuming the media contrived to render their audiences more inept each time they listen?
49   marcus   ignore (4)   2018 May 18, 9:29pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
It was all very sad and frustrating for those of us who hadn’t lost our damn minds.
edvard says

today, as we speak, is that we have a man in office who:
-in fact is under several investigations, and not just the Russian thing. He's fully admitted to paying off a porn star.
-He's got a lawyer who is in hot water.
-His son met with a foreign power to dig up dirt on another candidate.
-He blames literally everyone and everything for anything he gets caught saying or doing, going after the press- ALL of the press- if they do something like post his actual tweets. -He attacks other people- even members of his own staff- all the time.
-He fires people who don't agree with him.
-He holds great big rallies and when he's not doing that he's probably playing golf at a resort and even charges the secret service to use the golf carts.
-At this point has broken all 10 of the 10 commandments, a few of them several times.

I could go on here but strip away party affiliation and we have a person who outright abuses his power and goes against even the most basic of our democratic freedoms. Perhaps in another time or period of history in this country people from BOTH sides of the isle would've rejected this kind of behavior. I can tell folks here for fact that my 97 year old grandmother, who's husband fought in WW2- a women who ALWAYS voted for the Republican despises Trump. She lived through a period of time where people in this country rejected the very sort of behavior Trump exhibits.

What I see from his supporters is denial. A LOT of denial. Denial that they in fact elected a person who in actuality goes against their own principles and furthermore, they've doubled down on this support. The worse he behaves, the more damning the growing evidence of his wrongdoing reveals itself, the more obvious it becomes to everyone that he's just a cheap snakeoil salesman the more blindly devoted and defensive they become.


Edvard sums it up very well, and Mell is right, it is sad.
50   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 May 18, 11:08pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Edvard sums it up very well, and Mell is right, it is sad.

It may be more than sad. There is no guarantee the human race survives this massive build up of nuclear arms. Not just nuclear accidents but Trump claims to develop small enough nuclear weapons to use in battles.

What contractor would ever refuse even the blackest money? --I can promise you that NONE of them would do that. This IS an amoral world.

Also there is no guarantee the human race survives this administration's policies of deliberate exacerbation of global warming, already people are dying from the climate change in certain places and maybe more than we now realize. The party line is absolutely criminal way beyond the poor people that end up dying from deliberately heightened scarcity of life necessities.

A huge culling of the human race can occur. These bosses know that too and they wash their hands on inhuman ideological grounds.

Trillions for oil, spoils of war, greater empire and decency gets murdered again every day.

People outlive their money and they freeze to death. It happens. Don't be surprised.

People take drugs and die. No surprise there either, yet when people do it they act like it can't happen.

We can deflect an asteroid now but this IS an amoral world, and there is no power in the universe that can save us from getting exactly what we deserve from our collective actions as a human race where decency gets murdered out of existence. Anyone could go on about lots of other over-the-top outrageousness that reigns over us all.

So make your peace.

Boycott.

Lay low.

Try to be good to each other.

Do what you can when you can.
51   mell   ignore (2)   2018 May 19, 7:37am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Any minute now
52   TrumpingTits   ignore (0)   2018 May 20, 9:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Nobody says
Look at the last tax reform. It only helped the rich.

So 91% of the income-tax paying population are all 'rich', then?
53   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 May 20, 11:20pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
a man in office who:
-in fact is under several investigations


Not true. Mueller's investigation has specifically stated that Trump is not a target of the investigation. Obama's admin is now officially under investigation for spying on Trump's campaign though, AND HRC is still under espionage investigation for her email/Weiner blunders.

marcus says
-He's got a lawyer who is in hot water.


Yup. That dude is a slimeball. Trump however, is still not under investigation in any way.

marcus says
-His son met with a foreign power to dig up dirt on another candidate.


This is not a crime and nothing occurred after the meeting. Obama's admin and HRC otoh hired and paid for foreign spies to literally dig up dirt on Trump... somehow the TDS afflicted don't see the hypocrisy in their Trump Jr indictment.

The rest of the list is pure garbage.

Look I get it. Trump's personality leaves plenty to be desired. So what? I dont care how a president tweets. I want a president who respects the republic and puts america first. Trump so far is the POTUS who has done the best job, IMHO.
54   everything   ignore (1)   2018 May 21, 8:37am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Posts like this just reinforce the showing of a nation in turmoil. Most all politicians are crooks, get used to it. Corruption in politics is rampant worldwide. For instance U.S. politicians finally openly admitted it's pay to play, may as well get people used to the fact.

A good example of a low rate of corruption is Norway. They setup a sovereign wealth fund with 250 million dollars in 1996, it's worth a trillion today.

https://www.transparency.org/country/USA

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