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Vote Against Us? Kiss your Aid Goodbye

By HonkpilledMaster following x   2017 Dec 20, 3:43pm 6,000 views   57 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


About time.

WASHINGTON/UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Wednesday threatened to cut off financial aid to countries that vote in favour of a draft United Nations resolution calling for the United States to withdraw its decision to recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital.

"They take hundreds of millions of dollars and even billions of dollars, and then they vote against us. Well, we're watching those votes. Let them vote against us. We'll save a lot. We don't care," Trump told reporters at the White House.


The 193-member U.N. General Assembly will hold a rare emergency special session on Thursday - at the request of Arab and Muslim countries - to vote on a draft resolution, which the United States vetoed on Monday in the 15-member U.N. Security Council.

The remaining 14 Security Council members voted in favour of the Egyptian-drafted resolution, which did not specifically mention the United States or Trump but which expressed "deep regret at recent decisions concerning the status of Jerusalem."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threatens-cut-aid-u-n-members-over-171947909.html
"US is evil, do bad thing, now Yankee you GIVE MONEY!!!"

#politics #UN #GatheringOfCorruptOligarchs

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18   socal2   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 21, 9:30am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Rew says
I hope the majority of the UN stands against us.


The mask slips a bit - being cool siding with China, Russia and the Muslim/Arab World against us when it comes to Israel?
19   HEYYOU   ignore (25)   2017 Dec 21, 10:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Is Trump still allowing aid to go to Muslim countries?
20   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (38)   2017 Dec 21, 10:35am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The UN won't take the USA! seriously until Haley appears with a roscoe and starts blowing away delegations that fuck with us, like looking at her and shit like that.
21   Goran_K   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 21, 10:38am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

socal2 says
The mask slips a bit - being cool siding with China, Russia and the Muslim/Arab World against us when it comes to Israel?


Leftist Democrats have never hid the fact that they have become the party of the false song of globalism. Look at how Leftist have ruined Europe.
22   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 21, 10:41am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
I repeat:
Why should we give any aid to countries that don't like us, and don't wish us well?


So, in your mind, countries that "like us" and "wish us well" have to agree with every decision the US makes? Is that how you think friends operate?
23   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 21, 10:41am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
I repeat:
Why should we give any aid to countries that don't like us, and don't wish us well?

That would be pretty much every other country on the planet if you're going on that resolution.
24   Tenpoundbass   ignore (13)   2017 Dec 21, 10:42am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Look at how Leftist have ruined Europe.


Decimated, Destroyed, and have activley sought out to expunge classic History and replace it with a flase narratives on Islamic Barbarians as humanaties champions.
25   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 21, 10:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

socal2 says

The mask slips a bit - being cool siding with China, Russia and the Muslim/Arab World against us when it comes to Israel?

And every other country on the planet of course.
26   justme   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 21, 10:46am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (4)   quote   flag        

UN nations will not be voting against the USA, they will be voting against crazy Trump and his crazy middle east policies. There is a difference between Trump and the USA.
27   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 21, 10:51am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
socal2 says
The mask slips a bit - being cool siding with China, Russia and the Muslim/Arab World against us when it comes to Israel?


Leftist Democrats have never hid the fact that they have become the party of the false song of globalism. Look at how Leftist have ruined Europe.


What were the right wingers doing all this time?

You guys always blame everything on the left, have you ever bothered to check and see what the Right is doing?
28   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2017 Dec 21, 11:01am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

The UN is like Puerto Rico. They love us a few minutes before and after we hand over the money but only if we don't ask how it is spent. The rest of the time, they spend opposing our every will as Colonialist Toxic White Male Oppressors

To the Many Voices of the Third World, shut the fuck up.

No seriously, if they are going to put their hand in our pockets, the least they can do is give it a little rub once in a while.
29   socal2   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 21, 11:55am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

justme says
UN nations will not be voting against the USA, they will be voting against crazy Trump and his crazy middle east policies. There is a difference between Trump and the USA.


Crazy policies like this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl-GHERR9hM
How about "crazy policies" like this when Obama allowed Hezbollah to run massive drug and money laundering schemes in the US to kiss up to the Iranian Mullah's?

"The secret backstory of how Obama let Hezbollah off the hook"
https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/
30   Goran_K   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 21, 12:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

errc says
What were the right wingers doing all this time?

You guys always blame everything on the left, have you ever bothered to check and see what the Right is doing?


On the issue of Globalism, the right is "right" and the left is wrong. Plain and simple.
31   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 21, 1:29pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

justme says
There is a difference between Trump and the USA.


Yes, Trump refuses to bow down to all the other world leaders and suck their dicks like Obama did.
32   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 21, 1:29pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Countries which voted against the resolution:

US, Israel, Togo, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, Marshall Islands, Guatemala and Honduras

LOL

Textbook idiotic diplomacy.
34   anotheraccount   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 21, 2:19pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
On the issue of Globalism, the right is "right" and the left is wrong


Are you saying that Bush was not a globalist? Since when? Reagan was not a globalist? Since when?

And Trump is not a globalist? He is giving the biggest tax cut to corporations that derive half o their revenue outside of US.
35   Goran_K   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 21, 3:07pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

anotheraccount says
Goran_K says
On the issue of Globalism, the right is "right" and the left is wrong


Are you saying that Bush was not a globalist? Since when? Reagan was not a globalist? Since when?

And Trump is not a globalist? He is giving the biggest tax cut to corporations that derive half o their revenue outside of US.


I’m talking about now. As in this time.

As for the other drivel about tax cuts to business, how is letting businesses keep more of their money globalism? I think you are confused.
36   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2017 Dec 21, 3:29pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Afghanistan and Pakistan received about $15B in US Aid. More than a third of total US Aid just to those two countries.

Eithiopia? Shy of a billion.

Guess how they voted? Against the USA.

Let's start working on reducing the deficit.
37   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 21, 3:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anon_3b28c says
Strategist says
I repeat:
Why should we give any aid to countries that don't like us, and don't wish us well?


So, in your mind, countries that "like us" and "wish us well" have to agree with every decision the US makes? Is that how you think friends operate?


anon_6ae12 says
That would be pretty much every other country on the planet if you're going on that resolution.


Friends will always disagree at times. It's expected and it's normal. What we are looking for is countries that consistently go against our interests. They are not our friends, and they deserve no aid from us. Fuck Them.
38   Rew   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 21, 3:58pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

The vote was pretty brutal. 😂😂😂😂

Abstentions by Canada, Mexico, Australia, and a few others.

39   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2017 Dec 21, 4:18pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

In the past few days, not only did the UN presume to nullify our sovereign right to place our own embassies, but the EU told us our tax reform was unacceptable.

Not only did they want to nullify our sovereignity, but also our democratic elections.

Let that sink in.

#Globalization
40   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (38)   2017 Dec 21, 4:35pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Haley should be shooting randomly into the hall, shouting EAT! MY! CUNT!, LOSER! FUCKS! to regain the dignity of the USA!
41   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 21, 6:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
anotheraccount says
Goran_K says
On the issue of Globalism, the right is "right" and the left is wrong


Are you saying that Bush was not a globalist? Since when? Reagan was not a globalist? Since when?

And Trump is not a globalist? He is giving the biggest tax cut to corporations that derive half o their revenue outside of US.


I’m talking about now. As in this time.

As for the other drivel about tax cuts to business, how is letting businesses keep more of their money globalism? I think you are confused.

No you weren’t. You made a general point not one pertaining to a specific example.
42   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 21, 6:09pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
In the past few days, not only did the UN presume to nullify our sovereign right to place our own embassies, but the EU told us our tax reform was unacceptable.

Not only did they want to nullify our sovereignity, but also our democratic elections.

Let that sink in.

#Globalization

Except that’s not what they did. They voiced an opinion, just as the US does constantly around the world.
43   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 21, 6:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Afghanistan and Pakistan received about $15B in US Aid. More than a third of total US Aid just to those two countries.

Eithiopia? Shy of a billion.

Guess how they voted? Against the USA.

Let's start working on reducing the deficit.

Er, didn’t you just support the new tax plan? And now you are talking about working on the deficit by quibbling over a few billion in expenditure brought about almost entirely as a consequence of the US’s own disastrous military policies (that in themselves wasted trillions). Go figure.
44   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 21, 6:16pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anon_6ae12 says

Er, didn’t you just support the new tax plan? And now you are talking about working on the deficit by quibbling over a few billion in expenditure brought about almost entirely as a consequence of the US’s own disastrous military policies (that in themselves wasted trillions). Go figure.


I believe he is complaining about wasting money. We should not give handouts to countries that hate us. It's stupid, and it's a waste of money.
45   Goran_K   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 21, 6:33pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
In the past few days, not only did the UN presume to nullify our sovereign right to place our own embassies, but the EU told us our tax reform was unacceptable.

Not only did they want to nullify our sovereignity, but also our democratic elections.

Let that sink in.

#Globalization


Baby blue helmets make good high contrast targets at 200 yards. Very easy to hit even with irons.
46   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2017 Dec 21, 6:34pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anon_6ae12 says
Er, didn’t you just support the new tax plan? And now you are talking about working on the deficit by quibbling over a few billion in expenditure brought about almost entirely as a consequence of the US’s own disastrous military policies (that in themselves wasted trillions). Go figure.


Journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. I don't think America's Economy will be endangered by cutting a few billion from foreign aid. That's hardly a call for austerity. What the hell are we doing in Afghanistan anymore? My God, we've been there for 16 years already. Like 4 WW2s.
48   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 21, 6:58pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
anon_6ae12 says

Er, didn’t you just support the new tax plan? And now you are talking about working on the deficit by quibbling over a few billion in expenditure brought about almost entirely as a consequence of the US’s own disastrous military policies (that in themselves wasted trillions). Go figure.


I believe he is complaining about wasting money. We should not give handouts to countries that hate us. It's stupid, and it's a waste of money.

So he’s talking about what I said...
49   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 21, 6:58pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

And he said, and at quote, “ let’s start working on reducing the deficit.” Again, funny that he doesn’t say that when talking about the new tax bill.
50   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 21, 7:33pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. I don't think America's Economy will be endangered by cutting a few billion from foreign aid. That's hardly a call for austerity. What the hell are we doing in Afghanistan anymore? My God, we've been there for 16 years already. Like 4 WW2s.


Because the fucking Pakistanis keep supporting the terrorists there. If we took care of Pakistan, Afghanistan would not be a problem anymore.
51   Quigley   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 21, 7:35pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

US foreign “aid” is mostly given to dictators and strongmen who brutally oppress their citizens and give them no choice about foreign policy. These are the best nations to give aid to, as they remain the most loyal to whatever the USA wishes of them in return. Democracies are tough customers, being mainly loyal to their constituents instead of foreign powers offering gifts. US foreign aid mostly is good for helping dictators entrench, pay off their minions who help them remain in power, and helps them continue to ignore the wishes of their population.

The best thing for nearly every nation being given foreign aid by the USA is to have that aid stop forever.
52   WatermelonUniversity   ignore (6)   2017 Dec 21, 7:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

This right here tells you how much trump fails as the country leader. All that money spent buying their votes are wasted because trump has a big mouth and zero diplomatic skill.

Maybe trump should start working for America and not his son in law and the rich Jews who bribe him.

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Afghanistan and Pakistan received about $15B in US Aid. More than a third of total US Aid just to those two countries.

Eithiopia? Shy of a billion.

Guess how they voted? Against the USA.

Let's start working on reducing the deficit.
53   Quigley   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 22, 5:16am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

BorderPatrol says
This right here tells you how much trump fails as the country leader. All that money spent buying their votes are wasted because trump has a big mouth and zero diplomatic skill.


And that statement shows just how little you understand of the situation! Obama’s gave untold billions to Pakistan, escalating payments to unchallenged heights to get them to stop the extremists sending fighters into Afghanistan. This failed miserably, as the Pakis realized they could promise America anything and then fail to deliver and still get even more money!
The fact is that in certain regimes, paying off the leaders to achieve foreign policy goals is ineffective. This is most true in nations with more democracy, where paying off dictators is more or less a sure bet.

But you are correct that we should cease aid to these countries since it’s ineffective and they continue to hate us. We should use aid as strategically as the Chinese, not as wantonly whoring out the wealth of nations as previous Presidents have done with approval of Congress.

Hopefully Trump will reform this aspect of our government as well. With statements like he gave about the UN vote and aid, it appears he’s moving in that direction. Perhaps looking for an excuse, while dragging popular opinion in that direction as well? That kind of move would definitely suit his style, and has the benefit of getting even hostile democrats to agree with him!
55   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (5)   2017 Dec 22, 12:17pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
It's expected and it's normal. What we are looking for is countries that consistently go against our interests. They are not our friends, and they deserve no aid from us. Fuck Them.


Sounds good to me. President Trump has my whole hearted support.
56   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 22, 12:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Friends will always disagree at times. It's expected and it's normal. What we are looking for is countries that consistently go against our interests. They are not our friends, and they deserve no aid from us. Fuck Them.


You are reacting like if it's a child talking to other child.
What if the countries in question have several factions, some of which are against the US, some for it, and help essentially reinforces the faction in US favor?
What if the faction in power is essentially pro US and needs help, but has to pay lip service for the part of its population that is against the US?
What if, though acting in some cases against the US, a country still acts in some cases FOR the US and they wouldn't without the help?
57   WatermelonUniversity   ignore (6)   2017 Dec 22, 9:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

What about other countries? Your single anecdote doesn’t disprove anything not to mention you are arguing the point no one is making. Even trying to bring Obama into this as if trump did any better.

Quigley says
BorderPatrol says
This right here tells you how much trump fails as the country leader. All that money spent buying their votes are wasted because trump has a big mouth and zero diplomatic skill.


And that statement shows just how little you understand of the situation! Obama’s gave untold billions to Pakistan, escalating payments to unchallenged heights to get them to stop the extremists sending fighters into Afghanistan. This failed miserably, as the Pakis realized they could promise America anything and then fail to deliver and still get even more money!
The fact is that in certain regimes, paying off the leaders to achieve foreign policy goals is ineffective. This is most true in nations with more democracy, where paying off dictators is more or less a sure bet.

But you are correct that we should cease aid to these countries since it’s ineffective and they continue to ...

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