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Tax cuts will be popular!

By Quigley following x   2017 Dec 22, 3:13pm 2,416 views   22 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Democrat and media have given themselves a black eye with their blatant lies about the content of this bill. Come March, citizens are going to find their paychecks fatter and wonder how all their media sources got the news so wrong?


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1   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2017 Dec 22, 3:21pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The lies of the media, the left, and the democrats will come to bite them in the ass. 50% of the country thought their taxes would increase. That’s how evil the democrat party propaganda machine is. Imagine when they see the practical true effect of the tax cut
2   HEYYOU   ignore (22)   2017 Dec 22, 4:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Fucking White Male says
Imagine when they see the practical true effect of the tax cut


Republicans will have to pay Trumpcare Mandate penalties in 2018,there goes their tax savings.
Does the bill list Republicans that will have to pay more taxes?
3   HEYYOU   ignore (22)   2017 Dec 22, 4:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

A bill that increases Taxes is a Tax Increase bill.
4   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2017 Dec 22, 4:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yeah Historically Tax overhauls and tax cuts were a redrawing of the line. One or a few groups got a tax break at the expense of all of the other groups. Those other groups usually see an increase. This was the first tax cut that cut everyone. Reagan cut taxes for the wealthy while the middle class taxes went up.

This one will serve as the truth that has never been tried. If this goes over well. The future will have a hell of time raising taxes. Though the 2024 elections are already set up to be a battle to keep the middle class tax cuts in this bill. Which are slated to start expiring in 7 years.
5   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 22, 6:01pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I don't even know nor care how much I really benefit with the new tax bill. Time will tell. The real benefit for the middle class comes from higher stock prices and a booming economy. History will show Obama to be another Carter, and Trump another Reagan.
This great country will be more prosperous than ever before.
6   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 22, 6:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Fucking White Male says
That’s how evil the democrat party propaganda machine is. Imagine when they see the practical true effect of the tax cut


All the media analysis I've heard on the final bill says it's a tax increase ten years from now for the middle class, which I believe to be true. Where as the cuts of corporate taxes and rates on higher increments of income, pass troughs etc are at least intended to be permanent.

But sure, in the short run, tax cuts for everyone, when we are running deficits already. Ho does this make sense ?
7   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Dec 22, 6:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
The future will have a hell of time raising taxes


Bullshit. You can't decrease taxes for everyone without blowing up the deficit. Future tax increases were already guaranteed because payroll taxes (for social security) are being spent on tax cuts for the wealthy.

IT's sick to anyone with even a little common sense.
8   Quigley   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 22, 6:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anon_08dee says
says it's a tax increase ten years from now for the middle class, which I believe to be true.


And when that time rolls around, perhaps there will be a Democrat in power to take the blame for not renewing the “Trump” tax cuts. The GOP was veeeerrry crafty about this one. Gave the other party just enough rope to hang itself.
9   Quigley   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 22, 6:37pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anon_08dee says
Future tax increases were already guaranteed because payroll taxes (for social security) are being spent on tax cuts for the wealthy.


Or you could also think of it as current spending on war, military bases in every fucking country, needless bureaucracy, fanciful social programs of limited value, enormous spy budgets and bloated homeland security as well as a laundry list of other stupid expenditures including foreign aid to countries which hate us.

So ya, or tax cuts for the rich. Not that I’m for the rich getting unwarranted tax cuts, as some of these certainly qualify, but the rest of America needs a tax BREAK!
10   mell   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 22, 6:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MAGA! Love it.
11   Quigley   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 22, 6:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Sure seems like the Democrats this holiday season are the party of GRINCH!
12   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2017 Dec 22, 6:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anon_08dee says
Bullshit. You can't decrease taxes for everyone without blowing up the deficit.

The over all tax revenue goes up because of the volume of labor now being taxed.
You tax more less people work. That's why Reagan's plan to reduce Corporate tax created a surplus of tax revenue by time Bush Jr. got in office.
The treasury was doing so well in Clintons time that he offered a tax amnesty for scofflaw filers.
Through out much of the 80's and 90's it was not unreasonable to suggest to someone looking for a handout to get a job. There was three jobs for every job seeker.
14   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2017 Dec 22, 7:07pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Fucking White Male says
The lies of the media, the left, and the democrats will come to bite them in the ass. 50% of the country thought their taxes would increase. That’s how evil the democrat party propaganda machine is. Imagine when they see the practical true effect of the tax cut


It was even worse than that. The Liberal media was pushing the propaganda that ONLY the 1% would be getting a tax cut, NOT anyone in the middle class, and the middle class would increase. That's been the theme of the Rachel Maddow Libbies here the past month.
15   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 22, 7:18pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Sniper says
anon_08dee says
All the media analysis I've heard on the final bill says it's a tax increase ten years from now for the middle class,


First, stop listening to the Liberal media, they warp your mind.

Second, who knows what will go on ten years from now. A whole bunch of new laws, a recession, a major war, or who knows what can happen in that time frame. Worrying about 10 years from now is nonsense.


ROFL. If taxes increase for the middle class 10 years from now, all we have to do is have another tax cut for the middle class.
So simple.
16   Strategist   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 22, 8:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Sniper says
ROFL. If taxes increase for the middle class 10 years from now, all we have to do is have another tax cut for the middle class.
So simple.


Shhhhh... you're going to destroy their twisted narrative.


No worries. A twisted mind will just come up with more twisted narratives for us to destroy. Just wait and see.
17   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2017 Dec 22, 8:33pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

You could slow Federal Government spending. LOL that taxcuts =insta deficit increase.

Some people need to take macro and micro, and maybe 1st grade math as well.
18   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2017 Dec 22, 8:34pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Strategist says


Shhhhh... you're going to destroy their twisted narrative.



Nothing but love for you Strat.
19   WatermelonUniversity   ignore (6)   2017 Dec 22, 9:29pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

Popular for being the biggest tax scam in history for sure.
20   Quigley   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 23, 6:18am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

BorderPatrol says
Popular for being the biggest tax scam in history for sure.


If by “scam” you mean “extremely effective ploy against the Democrats and for the working people” then you are correct, Sir!
21   HappyGilmore   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 23, 6:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
If by “scam” you mean “extremely effective ploy against the Democrats and for the working people” then you are correct, Sir!


lol--this tax cut polls worse than the last 3 tax increases. This bill will likely increase the number of House seats that flip blue in 2018.
22   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2017 Dec 23, 8:25am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HappyGilmore says
lol--this tax cut polls worse than the last 3 tax increases.


That's the power of the twisted liberal media. See, brainwashing and drinking the kool-aid works!






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