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I hope the Liberals will be damn proud of themselves after they agitate the world into a Nuclear holocaust winter.
All because they couldn't stand not electing the First Hag President because the First black President was such a dismal failure.
Pat yourselves on the backs.

All cures for TDS will emanate from this base "Dance of the Hillary" virus...

Tenpoundbass says

All because they couldn't stand not electing the First Hag President

Russia and China went along with the US' anti-North Korean resolution a few days ago at the Security Council.

While the $$$Media$$$ hyped the most recent, completely usual, not at all atypical lopsided anti-Israel condemnation (and the "meh" attitude with which the UN approaches Bangladesh, Pakistani, etc. behavior on a vastly greater scale), it all but ignored the UNSC move which happened several days later.

Kinda blows that whole Trump conspiring with Russian bullshit, doesn't it comrade?

The leftist lies at this point are just disgusting. I feel wholey vindicated in calling the leftists posting on Pat.net traitors and haters of the US.

http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2017/dec/24/u-s-weapons-for-ukraine-anger-russia-20/

Trump is so much the Puppet of Putin, according to NeverTrump and the Left, that he did what John McCain and Ms. Lindsay couldn't do despite years of efforts from their powerful committees.

Arm the Ukrainians.

I'm sure Putin really wanted that.

OH NO...NOT SANCTIONS!...What could be worse?

TwoScoopsPlissken says

I'm sure Putin really wanted that.

And before some old poster with a new name or Anon account bitches at me, I still don't like it much. But you can't always get everything you want.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

Arm the Ukrainians.

I'm sure Putin really wanted that.

Yep, the fucker has miscalculated.

He has a great chance of miscalcualating again in this NK game he's playing. The sudden leap in missile and nuke tech available to little Kim is not all that mysteriuos.

Satoshi_Nakamoto says

The sudden leap in missile and nuke tech available to little Kim is not all that mysteriuos.

Yep, it's what happens when you outsource manufacturing to China, everything is dual use.

They caught China surreptiously transferring oil in the Ocean between Chicom tankers and NK Ships.

Time for some stiff Tariffs, even if the Multinational Manufacturers and Retailers want to pump up our rival with tech and cash.

Ever wonder why no one hits us with sanctions?

This is damning evidence...
TwoScoopsPlissken says

Trump is so much the Puppet of Putin, according to NeverTrump and the Left, that he did what John McCain and Ms. Lindsay couldn't do despite years of efforts from their powerful committees.

Arm the Ukrainians.

I'm sure Putin really wanted that.

Satoshi_Nakamoto says

The sudden leap in missile and nuke tech available to little Kim is not all that mysteriuos.

I think that technology came from a specific Ukrainian factory. Would not surprise me with the turmoil in that country.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

Russia and China went along with the US' anti-North Korean resolution a few days ago at the Security Council.

Anyone catch who was selling oil to the North Koreans this week? Two countries. (ponder ponder) One ship currently seized by South Korea.

Also, good move by Russia into Turkey this week on missile defense. Keep straining relations with the West and draw Turkey in tighter.

anotheraccount says

I think that technology came from a specific Ukrainian factory. Would not surprise me with the turmoil in that country.

Yuzhmash : the technology, and factory/origin, is all undoubtedly former Soviet Navy in the Ukraine. Yes. Just as reported in August:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/world/asia/north-korea-missiles-ukraine-factory.html
But, proven that the Ukrainians were leads in seeking to sell that missile engine/tech to N. Korea seems unlikely. Did they even have enough engines on hand to make a difference? How did they get the engines to the N. Koreans? Proliferation and control of nuke and missile tech has been tightly watched since '91. Seems difficult and there is a good bit against Ukrainian interest in doing so. They are (well, were) very pro-US and dependent on us to a good degree for their freedom.

It takes more than just a few engines over the border, and a few documents, to make a missile program. It takes support, manufacturing, quality control.

Hey, who has a shared border with North Korea anyway? Who has an interest in a nicely destabilized and off balance US? That's right: Russia.

Yes, N. Korea's missile tech has a Soviet lineage, but we are a long way from being able to say definitively: Ukraine bad they did it for $.

Hours after Trump conversed with Putin, on Jan 28th, Eastern Ukraine erupted into heavy explosions of a much larger Russian assault. That was the cementing of our only lip-service support of the Ukraine. It's pretty clear, Ukraine isn't counting on us anytime soon, really.

So for a missile program, of Soviet Naval lineage, which country is actually more likely to have dealt and transferred goods to the North Koreans? I know who I would bet on.

As to us providing sniper rifles to the Ukraine, ok. (shrug) What next? Canada in on arms sales with us too. Nice. But, what a soft footed "I don't want to anger my base or Putin" rollout. This doesn't change the course of Russian war plans, nor the war outcome at all. This just signals Trump is begrudgingly listening to Mattis and others.

Will be interesting to see if the Russian's now get to use this as an excuse to break the current cease fires and prisoner exchanges. The timing is the oddest thing ever too. The decision on arm sales has been sitting on Trump's desk for months. Too busy golfing, or trying to squeak it by in the holiday quiet.

The country with a stockpile of tactical nukes.
Pull the trigger trump, Ukraine is at stake...

Rew says

I know who I would bet on.