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That state is killing itself, strangled by Democrat-run government and the horrid policies they inevitably enact.
Reminds one of Kansas.
This is the problem with the left and taxes. Kansas tax cuts may be extreme, but the local homeowner is not paying through his nose to live in his own home. The bureacrats and public unions are bleeding the state dry-all due tot he democrats and the imbecile repubs who don't know how to fight back/
Property taxes are not set by the State--they are local taxes.
Those who have to pay don't care what those taxes are called. They are still taxes, they are based on property, and they are a ripoff. Pure mafia extortion to to fill the pockets of undeserving government employees.
Strategist saysThose who have to pay don't care what those taxes are called. They are still taxes, they are based on property, and they are a ripoff. Pure mafia extortion to to fill the pockets of undeserving government employees.No kidding, but it's easier to change things when you place blame in the correct place.
Let me guess who gets the blame..... Republicans.
And the endless repetition of lies continues unabated on pat.net. IL has had a Republican governor more than Dem over the last 30 years.$300K homes do not pay $15K in property taxes save a few very rare exceptions.Lake County, IL homes prices are not going down. Property taxes are not set by the State--they are local taxes.OK--now back to the regular scheduled programming of the same lies
Strategist saysLet me guess who gets the blame..... Republicans.Not sure--depends on which county you're talking about I'd imagine.
Ahhhh. I get it. You want to blame the Republicans but can't. You don't want to blame the democrats but must. Tough spot to be in.
No I want to blame the people responsible. You are the one who has a hard-on to blame Dems.Pick a few counties where you think taxes are too high and let's look at the political makeup of the county board and assessor
The democrats tried to make it a criminal offense to challenge a union.http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-illinois-right-to-work-jail-20171101-story.html I mean wtf? There are so many mandated expenses from the state dems-if you are allowed to cut expenses , then yes-but nope-like I said read the article.
IL has had a Republican governor more than Dem over the last 30 years.
Strategist saysAhhhh. I get it. You want to blame the Republicans but can't. You don't want to blame the democrats but must. Tough spot to be in.No I want to blame the people responsible. You are the one who has a hard-on to blame Dems.
And again--I'm not the partisan one here. This bill has zero to do with why IL property taxes are high or which party is responsible
Yes it does. Because of this and the other barriers of the state democrats, the individual jurisdictions cannot negotatite and lower their costs. The thug unions and the thug dem union bosses keep the stranglehold and keep the populace as slaves and live as public masters. The same in any leftie paradise-where success is penalized and govt thugs reign supreme-which is the democrat wet dream.
You think this bill was for government workers?
No--it was to allow the Republican 1% to drive down wages as far as possible so they pay labor less and keep more.
You're funny--the Republican paradise you dream of is back in the days of the robber barons. Where companies own their workers, set up little company towns with company stores where they force their serfs to work 18-20 hours/day, 7 days/week. Worker injuries and deaths were common. We've been there and done this and thankfully unions helped drive change to where labor was valued. I'd prefer not to go back.
Yes it was
See it's hard to take you seriously when you post outright falsehoods with such apparent surety.
That is what happens when you listen to a thug dem politician
The quote was from a Republican leaning newspaper.
Are you denying he said that. You probably think Obama's quote on doctors and plans is a Fox news made up story too-LOL!
What are you talking about. The quote I posted was from a Republican leaning newspaper. And why do you keep bringing up Obama and healthcare? Can you not have a civil discussion and stay on topic?
The quote you posted may be from wherever. But the sponsor of the arrest bill said on the floor of the house that it impacts all employees of a collective bargaining agreement. That is what he said while pushing for arrest of elected folks-just think of that for a minute-arrest of people saying they don't want to force participate in a union and you support this thug police state.
And every time you make ridiculous statements like I support a thug police state, it only hurts your argument
It's definitely possible that a politician stood up on the floor and issued a statement that exaggerated the truth to scare and make his point. And when I say government workers, I'm typically not thinking of police and firefighters.
Nope it exposes you. It arrests people with Class A misdemeanor-which is what a thug police state does and you support that.
Now you admit what the thug sponsor of the bill said on the floor of the house and yet feign ignorance on why I bring in Obama-who lied multiple times about doctors and plans to pass the bill. Chicago dems -LOL..
Are you saying there are no Democrats in the 1% who own businesses who will benefit?
Not feigning ignorance. Just wondering why you cant stay on topic. Usually that's the hallmark of a losing position.
nah. It shows you understand the lying thug sponsor's positon which is exactly similar to Obama's position on Obamacare and you think it is fine and dandy.
lol--you sure are good at telling me how I feel and what I think. And calling people thugs. bravo.
the Republican paradise you dream of is back in the days of the robber barons. Where companies own their workers, set up little company towns with company stores where they force their serfs to work 18-20 hours/day, 7 days/week. Worker injuries and deaths were common. We've been there and done this and thankfully unions helped drive change to where labor was valued. I'd prefer not to go back.
You can't go back - we have laws which prevent the shit you described. So unless these laws are repealed (which is not happening) the argument about unions guarding us from 20-hour workdays is bogus.
LOl repeating your words is not me telling you how you feel-it is emrely repeating.You are now racist-only black people can be called thugs? This thug wants to threaten people with jail for exercising their free will of not contributing to his group/union. That is a thug.
You're losing it. You have never repeated my words--you are always putting words in my mouth. Incorrectly.And who brought up race here? I just said you're constantly calling people you don't agree with "thugs" which is pretty lame.
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