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Anyone want to have their own forum?

By Patrick following x   2018 Jan 7, 2:05pm 3,318 views   221 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


I'm working on making it easy to spin up new clones of patrick.net under different domain names.

Anyone have a particular love of a topic and want to be a co-founder of a clone based on that topic? You'd be moderator-god, and own half of the rights to the domain name and the database (the source code would remain open source and available to the public for free). I do the tech, you do writing, moderation, and marketing.

The goal would be to build traffic and revenue (probably advertising) and then sell the thing ASAP, splitting the proceeds.

If you're interested, what topic would it be, and do you have a domain name to use?

#patnet

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182   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 3:50pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

PEACEandGOODWILL says
You are a true dingbat. Roberto put his personal info out.

Stop lying.

The uncivil button is there. Use it.0


@Patrick where is my uncivil button?
183   cynn   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 3:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

No I did not. I also think errrrrrc is also ginchy, but I can't always understand his POV.
184   marcus   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 4:19pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

CBOEtrader says
Act like an adult or GTFO. @patrick how long are you gonna let this guy drag down your forum? This specific behavior is the problem. Iwog is your worst offender


CBOE's issue with IWOG is that he presents real arguments that inihilate his emotion based content free arguments.

CBOE would much rather argue with some center right or moderate (what he calls hard core left winger) that he can associate with Antifa and call a Nazi, until they just leave the site in disgust.

IWOG has always been one of the best at calling the most clueless alt right wingers (such as CBOE) out on their BS. Without Iwog this site is more of a right wing echo chamber and troll fest than it ever was before.

What you have to realize is that hey, maybe that's a profitable route for the site to go. Besides, being the right wing Trump supporter that Patrick obviously is, the truth that Iwog puts out there has to get a hard to listen to.

"Let's just be a right wing circle jerk instead."

I started making myself scarce quite a while ago. Not enough real discussion. And also it's just depressing (although I've been around a bit in recent weeks).

Everyone with half a brain knows that the recent tax cuts are going to cause the deficit to explode. Which will eventually lead to more cuts in "entitlements." We are now well in to the treacherous 4th decade of this "starve the beast" undoing of Johnson's great society. The republicans have won, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize we all lose.

I digress, but Iwog is one of the best people for detailing this and making the argument for how fucked up things are.

So of course the TrumpCucks don't want him here. How can you run a profitable right wing echo chamber with intelligent people like Iwog around ?
185   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 4:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

marcus says
"starve the beast" undoing of Johnson's great society


This is a great thing for the United States. LBJ was a known racist who devastated the black community with dependency on entitlements.
186   marcus   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 4:33pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Goran_K says
LBJ was a known racist who devastated the black community with dependency on entitlements.


That might have been an effect, but I don't believe it was his intent, and it was obviously necessary. The bad thing is the connection politically to the left.

It turns out prison is more way more expensive than public aid (for the govt) but if you play it right the owner class can get in on it (hey - more back door welfare for the 1%) and also bonus, they're not reproducing when they're in prison.

You tell me, which side are the worse racists ?
187   marcus   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 4:39pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Btw @CBOE I was perhaps a little over the top above. I do attempt to reason with you and you had little to do with my leaving for awhile (not that you would care). Curious2 and a couple other assholes were more my reason, combined with the alt right wingers getting overly full of themselves and dominating the site more.

The alt right BS gets tiring. In my book T-lips has always been a tool, but ever since he became a paid troll for the alt right he's become so much worse than just tiresome.
188   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 4:50pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

PEACEandGOODWILL says
HappyGilmore says
PEACEandGOODWILL says
You are a true dingbat. Roberto put his personal info out.

Stop lying.

The uncivil button is there. Use it.0


Nope--there is no uncivil button for me.


Disclose why! Or you are the disingenous poster I acause you of being.


Notice the non response...

Tat/hHappy is not responding and purposely omitting factually true info to play the victim.

He had his ability to mark posts uncivil taken away by Patrick due to abusing the function.

Who is really the troll? Who is really lying?

IWOG in this thread has been asked to provide proof of assertions he made. He has failed to do so.

Buh bye ducky, don’t let the door hit ya.
189   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 4:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

marcus says
That might have been an effect, but I don't believe it was his intent, and it was obviously necessary. The bad thing is the connection politically to the left.


I don't believe LBJ's original intent was to devastate the black community either (though I know he did not harbor much love for blacks), but it was his intent to use government entitlements for Democrat votes, and it was an extremely successful strategy. Look at the black inner city across America, complete and utter destruction socially and economically.
190   TwoScoopsPlissken   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 4:52pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

marcus says
What you have to realize is that hey, maybe that's a profitable route for the site to go. Besides, being the right wing Trump supporter that Patrick obviously is, the truth that Iwog puts out there has to get a hard to listen to.


TDS is really what it's all about, hate to say it. Entire posters disappeared, then came back with new handles, full of vitriol.

marcus says
The alt right BS gets tiring. In my book T-lips has always been a tool, but ever since he became a paid troll for the alt right he's become so much worse than just tiresome.


Whereas before, I was a paid troll for Richard Dawkins and the NewAtheists. hahahahaha

Oh, the days when it was Dan who was so crazed in your eyes.

EDIT: Quoted wrong chunk of Marcus. My remarks are now matched to the quoted content
191   krc   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 4:54pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I wouldn't say that this site is dead but I don't visit as often. I don't think either side (alt-right, etreme-left) has taken over this site as the subject lines seem to vary from one side to the next (pro-trump, anti-trump, etc... But, yeah, I visited originally to read the real estate discussions. Then, I enjoyed what seemed to be a combined left/right discussion on feminism and its impacts and over-reach (red pill stuff). And the econ discussions were usually pretty good. Too bad we can't focus on those issues. A lot of name calling, now but I still enjoy seeing IWOG back a bit, even if I don't agree with all of his opinions/thoughts.
192   anon_7cb85   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 5:30pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

iwog says
I don't need to be here in fact I intend not to be.


Yes, we lived through your mike drop, hysterical leaving once before.

Why all the dramatics, just LEAVE?
193   FortWayne   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 5:31pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Iwog sure loves his arguing.
194   anon_7cb85   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 5:32pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says
joshuatrio says
Because non of us get our panties in a twist over internet arguments.


You think that's the way things work? Where's Bob?


He posted yesterday.

iwog says
Where's Logan and SubOink


Logan a week ago, SubOink on the 6th.

You have NO point..
195   Onvacation   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 5:35pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says
UNFORTUNATELY

Actually the main draw is AF. Cannibal anarchy prep is the main purpose of patnet.
Patrick is doing a great service to humanity. Individuals are less than the sum of a community.
Ignore really does work. So post your self congratulatory drivel and be done with it. You don't have to listen to those who disagree with you.
196   FortWayne   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 5:44pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

QFT, af is a celebrity here
Onvacation says
iwog says
UNFORTUNATELY

Actually the main draw is AF. Cannibal anarchy prep is the main purpose of patnet.
Patrick is doing a great service to humanity. Individuals are less than the sum of a community.
Ignore really does work. So post your self congratulatory drivel and be done with it. You don't have to listen to those who disagree with you.
197   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 6:04pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

iwog says
Onvacation says
Actually the main draw is AF. Cannibal anarchy prep is the main purpose of patnet.


Yup he's popular. He has 9 followers. He's 3rd and has been here about as long as I have.

I have 35 and at the peak was near 50.

Those of you trying to kick me off (redundant) are making absolutely asinine arguments or no arguments at all. You are demonstrating that the only skill you have is being a fucking troll. Gosh I wonder why Patnet is a corpse again?


With one wave of the hand, the almighty IWOG decrees an impossibility(users getting him kicked off...only Patrick can do that), and poofs all fact and logic that conspires to point out what a stunning hypocrite he is.
198   iwog   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 8, 6:12pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (6)     quote      

PEACEandGOODWILL says
With one wave of the hand, the almighty IWOG decrees an impossibility(users getting him kicked off...only Patrick can do that), and poofs all fact and logic that conspires to point out what a stunning hypocrite he is.


Nope and your illiteracy isn't serving you well here.

I'm saying it's redundant if I'm kicked off because I've already kicked myself off. Actually I left for about a month before Patrick offered me moderation of the investment forum, which I accepted, but then he decided to put all my political threads under jurisdiction of a horrible person so I gave up.

Can you get me banned? Probably not but it's redundant. English. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
199   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 8:54pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I'm getting pretty sick of users talking about other users and not about actual topics. No one coming here from outside could care less. It's less than zero content. It's anti-content.

Just going to start blowing every every comment that so much as mentions another user.

2018 Jan 8th, 8:52pm is the moment I start deleting any comment talking about another user. Right now.
200   anon_aa05b   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 9:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Just as a quick aside as you’re here Patrick, when I highlight a piece of text to quote, that section appears in the quote box on my Android phone. When I do the same on my iPad, the whole comment appears in the quote box (rather than just the section I wanted).
201   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 9:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Yes, there are great difficulties in selecting text on mobile devices.

You can see how I implemented it here: https://github.com/killelea/node.patrick.net/blob/master/node/patrick_net.js#L2972
It's the best I could do for now. One day I'll have employees who can figure this shit out for me. Probably not, but I haven't given up hope of that.
202   anon_08dee   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 9:08pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Patrick is a genius for making that decision.
203   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 9:11pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_08dee says
Patrick is a genius for making that decision.


OK, that one is pretty funny. It's about another user, but hey.
204   FortWayne   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 9:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Patrick says
I'm getting pretty sick of users talking about other users and not about actual topics. No one coming here from outside could care less. It's less than zero content. It's anti-content.

Just going to start blowing every every comment that so much as mentions another user.

2018 Jan 8th, 8:52pm is the moment I start deleting any comment talking about another user. Right now.


Great idea, just with some reasonable standard please. Not "everything". Otherwise that'll empty the forum pretty much. I don't think I've seen many posts from iwog that do not mention someone else. It's not a bad thing, it's just how conversations go these days.
205   FP   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 9:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

FortWayne says
I don't think I've seen many posts from iwog


oops...
Patrck?
206   anon_aa05b   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 9:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
Yes, there are great difficulties in selecting text on mobile devices.

You can see how I implemented it here: https://github.com/killelea/node.patrick.net/blob/master/node/patrick_net.js#L2972
It's the best I could do for now. One day I'll have employees who can figure this shit out for me. Probably not, but I haven't given up hope of that.

Thanks for all the hard work.
I know it’s been said before, but do you not think at this point it may be easiest just to let people moderate their own threads (as frequently suggested). It seems like a reasonable compromise. There’s moderation and if people aren’t happy with that moderation, then they’re free to start their own threads. It’s got to be better than the current situation. You can combine that with banning obvious trolls (three strikes and you’re out or some such). That’s got to be easier than deleting any post directed at another user (aren’t all posts?).
207   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 9:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_aa05b says
easiest just to let people moderate their own threads


I did have people moderating their own threads for a while, but it also just inflamed the interpersonal conflict.
208   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 9, 9:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

HappyGilmore says
PEACEandGOODWILL says
Notice the non response...

Tat/hHappy is not responding and purposely omitting factually true info to play the victim.

He had his ability to mark posts uncivil taken away by Patrick due to abusing the function.

Who is really the troll? Who is really lying?

IWOG in this thread has been asked to provide proof of assertions he made. He has failed to do so.

Buh bye ducky, don’t let the door hit ya.


Sorry--I didn't see this in the wave of posts yesterday. I don't remember misusing and losing the function--I hardly ever mark anything uncivil, but maybe so. Patrick could confirm.


You lost your uncivil button also?

Interesting

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