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By Patrick following x   2018 Jan 7, 2:05pm 3,306 views   221 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


I'm working on making it easy to spin up new clones of patrick.net under different domain names.

Anyone have a particular love of a topic and want to be a co-founder of a clone based on that topic? You'd be moderator-god, and own half of the rights to the domain name and the database (the source code would remain open source and available to the public for free). I do the tech, you do writing, moderation, and marketing.

The goal would be to build traffic and revenue (probably advertising) and then sell the thing ASAP, splitting the proceeds.

If you're interested, what topic would it be, and do you have a domain name to use?

#patnet

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161   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 2:30pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

HappyGilmore says
PEACEandGOODWILL says
You are a true dingbat. Roberto put his personal info out.

Stop lying.

The uncivil button is there. Use it.0


Nope--there is no uncivil button for me.


Disclose why! Or you are the disingenous poster I acause you of being.
162   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 2:34pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

iwog says
I directly contradicted your point in the most fabulous way possible. I told you about a message board that was 1,000 times larger than anywhere else you have ever participated in. I proved your claim was completely wrong and I even explained why 4chan is successful while this place is a corpse.

So what's your reaction? You claim I proved your point. You are a cancer to this website.


4chan is a place where teens go to post porn, memes, and troll about video games.

That's the forum you brought up to "prove" you could last in a public forum?
163   iwog   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 8, 2:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

Then you bring out the Laughing icon because of mocking somebody isn't good enough for you.

What was your assertion again? You said I could never go on another public forum and talk this way without getting banned.

Were you right or were you wrong? Why are you still claiming you were right?
164   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 2:39pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

iwog says
Then you bring out the Laughing icon because of mocking somebody isn't good enough for you.

What was your assertion again? You said I could never go on another public forum and talk this way without getting banned.

Were you right or were you wrong? Why are you still claiming you were right?


You were technically "right", but dude, c'mon. You look like you could be a grandfather to the type of kids who post there.

Why would someone your age even hang out on 4chan?
165   anon_4480e   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 2:51pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

If the new pat.net rules allows any user to behave the way Iwog has in this thread, I will not be a part of it. Character and civil discussion are important. If you allow divisive behavior like Iwog's, pretty soon everyone is in a giant flame war... how many women, or self described minorities, or even unique thinkers will sit through that crap? I for one, refuse to deal w that type of drama.

FTR, I think this new pat.net had a chance to grow once the civility rules were enforced. Behavior like Iwog's will = complete devolution of your community every time. Choose your values wisely @Patrick. Civil discussion should be the standard
166   iwog   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 8, 2:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

anon_4480e says
If the new pat.net rules allows any user to behave the way Iwog has in this thread, I will not be a part of it


You are seriously posting this as an anon? Brilliant.

Please detail your contribution to the forum so far. I'm sure we would all enjoy a recap.
167   anon_aa05b   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 2:58pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
Hmmm reboot sounds interesting. I could make a write-only archive of the old content, then start over being just about housing and investing, strictly no politics.

How many posters do you think that would leave you with?
168   anon_aa05b   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 2:58pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Nomograph is right by the way, but nowhere did he say to restrict it to just those two topics. You are cutting your own throat by restricting yourself so much. What happens when the conversation inevitably strays into other areas? Politics isn’t the problem per se; it’s how you’re dealing with policing the forum that is the real issue.
169   anon_4480e   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 2:58pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

HappyGilmore says
I consider lying and trolling uncivil. Stalking and posting personal info about users is uncivil. Making everything personal is uncivil.


Who is disagreeing?

Iwog is the biggest troll on this site. There's not even a close second.

His presence guarantees any discussion devolves into a divisive flame war. The forum has been distilled into those looking for a daily right v left fight LARGELY because of Iwog.
170   anon_4480e   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 2:58pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sorry about going back and forth between anon and CBOE, I am jumping between too many computers and apparently only logged in as CBOE in half of them. FYI, anon_4480e = CBOE
171   anon_313db   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 2:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
Hmmm reboot sounds interesting. I could make a write-only archive of the old content, then start over being just about housing and investing, strictly no politics.


Focusing on housing and investing will not generate much interest at this time. These topics generate more discussion when times are rough, when there's "blood in the streets" and everyone is panicking. Instead what we have is a bull market in both and the bears have been trounced thoroughly.

Politics on the other hand has potential to generate plenty of discussion over the upcoming years especially 3 and/or 7 years from now especially given the fact that americans have not really resolved the culture war issues going back to 1960s and seem unlikely to do so due to echo-chamber colonies.
172   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 3:01pm   ↑ like (10)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

anon_4480e says
Iwog is the biggest troll on this site. There's not even a close second.


This.

He was much classier back in the day, but has grown old and angry as he's aged.
173   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 3:15pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

iwog says
No? I wonder why the fuck not.


Because non of us get our panties in a twist over internet arguments.

Sure, it might get heated online, but I doubt any of us really care once the screen turns off.
174   CBOEtrader   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 3:30pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

iwog says
You are a cancer to this website


Toxicity like this is the cancer.

Act like an adult or GTFO. @patrick how long are you gonna let this guy drag down your forum? This specific behavior is the problem. Iwog is your worst offender
175   CBOEtrader   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 3:37pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

iwog says
The only way you get so worked up about this is because I have a point and I can prove it.


You don't have a point. All you want to do is flame and feel self important. It's sad to watch.

First you claim the regulars in this site would get banned from every other forum. Goran then suggested you would be banned first. Your response is that 4-chan doesn't ban people?

Your entire purpose is to flame others and you consistently change your own logic just to attack someone. It's weak, sad, and tedious.

Please grow up or go tell at 14 year olds on 4-chan. The adults here like to keep things civil
176   HappyGilmore   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 3:39pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

CBOEtrader says
The adults here like to keep things civil


Yes, that picture of a dildo shaped cake that was posted on here and not marked uncivil by any of the adults was very civil.
177   iwog   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 8, 3:39pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

CBOEtrader says
You don't have a point. All you want to do is flame and feel self important. It's sad to watch.


Nope, I have no importance whatsoever. I used to say all the time "Pretend I'm broke and living in my mom's basement, let my words speak for me."

However just to remind you, the fucking topic is why this place is a corpse and what needs to happen in order to fix it.

UNFORTUNATELY I am the only thing besides Patrick's original anti-real estate manifesto that can remotely considered a successful draw here. Maybe it's because I'm an asshole. Maybe it's because I'm the straight guy and everyone wants to be the comic. Whatever the reason, it remains the only verifiable data point about what works on this forum so it's the only thing I can use that constitutes ACTUAL data.

Compare this to what you're doing which is pissing all over everything and hoping someone believes you.
178   iwog   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 8, 3:43pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

I went for almost a decade without mentioning my follower count once. I only brought it up when it was clear I needed to convince Patrick what went wrong.

Do you think never mentioning for a decade is "All you want to do is flame and feel self important."? Nope. Patrick is fucking up by letting the trolls run the shop. He'll figure it out right before he turns off the lights.

I for one would like him to figure it out sooner than that.
179   cynn   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 3:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sorry to be late to the party, and I haven't read all the previous comments, but I have been hanging around this site for awhile. I started following patnet back in the bubble days when I had a sick feeling about the housing market in Denver. Maybe misremembering the time, but it was close to meltdown. Got a kick out of the razzing of that Casey guy with all the houses, and fondly recall a guy (DOPES, I think) making irreverant comments. Also valued the discussions of many folks who knew whal they were talking about, explaining the markets, economy, real estate, etc. Sorry to see Patrick try to monetize the place, and sad that so many commenters have left. Plus, I think Iwog's the bomb, even though I disagree half the time. Just my two pennies.
180   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 3:46pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says

You think that's the way things work? Where's Bob? Where's Ellie? Where's Logan and SubOink and everyone else I listed?


I don't know. Do you? I left for a year or so, and came back. What's your point?
181   DoofusRicky   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 3:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Brother Cynn, did you just tell us iwog has a BOMB? Oh Lord have mercy.
182   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 3:50pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

PEACEandGOODWILL says
You are a true dingbat. Roberto put his personal info out.

Stop lying.

The uncivil button is there. Use it.0


@Patrick where is my uncivil button?
183   cynn   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 3:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

No I did not. I also think errrrrrc is also ginchy, but I can't always understand his POV.
184   marcus   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 4:19pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

CBOEtrader says
Act like an adult or GTFO. @patrick how long are you gonna let this guy drag down your forum? This specific behavior is the problem. Iwog is your worst offender


CBOE's issue with IWOG is that he presents real arguments that inihilate his emotion based content free arguments.

CBOE would much rather argue with some center right or moderate (what he calls hard core left winger) that he can associate with Antifa and call a Nazi, until they just leave the site in disgust.

IWOG has always been one of the best at calling the most clueless alt right wingers (such as CBOE) out on their BS. Without Iwog this site is more of a right wing echo chamber and troll fest than it ever was before.

What you have to realize is that hey, maybe that's a profitable route for the site to go. Besides, being the right wing Trump supporter that Patrick obviously is, the truth that Iwog puts out there has to get a hard to listen to.

"Let's just be a right wing circle jerk instead."

I started making myself scarce quite a while ago. Not enough real discussion. And also it's just depressing (although I've been around a bit in recent weeks).

Everyone with half a brain knows that the recent tax cuts are going to cause the deficit to explode. Which will eventually lead to more cuts in "entitlements." We are now well in to the treacherous 4th decade of this "starve the beast" undoing of Johnson's great society. The republicans have won, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize we all lose.

I digress, but Iwog is one of the best people for detailing this and making the argument for how fucked up things are.

So of course the TrumpCucks don't want him here. How can you run a profitable right wing echo chamber with intelligent people like Iwog around ?
185   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 4:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

marcus says
"starve the beast" undoing of Johnson's great society


This is a great thing for the United States. LBJ was a known racist who devastated the black community with dependency on entitlements.
186   marcus   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 4:33pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Goran_K says
LBJ was a known racist who devastated the black community with dependency on entitlements.


That might have been an effect, but I don't believe it was his intent, and it was obviously necessary. The bad thing is the connection politically to the left.

It turns out prison is more way more expensive than public aid (for the govt) but if you play it right the owner class can get in on it (hey - more back door welfare for the 1%) and also bonus, they're not reproducing when they're in prison.

You tell me, which side are the worse racists ?
187   marcus   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 4:39pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Btw @CBOE I was perhaps a little over the top above. I do attempt to reason with you and you had little to do with my leaving for awhile (not that you would care). Curious2 and a couple other assholes were more my reason, combined with the alt right wingers getting overly full of themselves and dominating the site more.

The alt right BS gets tiring. In my book T-lips has always been a tool, but ever since he became a paid troll for the alt right he's become so much worse than just tiresome.
188   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 4:50pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

PEACEandGOODWILL says
HappyGilmore says
PEACEandGOODWILL says
You are a true dingbat. Roberto put his personal info out.

Stop lying.

The uncivil button is there. Use it.0


Nope--there is no uncivil button for me.


Disclose why! Or you are the disingenous poster I acause you of being.


Notice the non response...

Tat/hHappy is not responding and purposely omitting factually true info to play the victim.

He had his ability to mark posts uncivil taken away by Patrick due to abusing the function.

Who is really the troll? Who is really lying?

IWOG in this thread has been asked to provide proof of assertions he made. He has failed to do so.

Buh bye ducky, don’t let the door hit ya.
189   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 4:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

marcus says
That might have been an effect, but I don't believe it was his intent, and it was obviously necessary. The bad thing is the connection politically to the left.


I don't believe LBJ's original intent was to devastate the black community either (though I know he did not harbor much love for blacks), but it was his intent to use government entitlements for Democrat votes, and it was an extremely successful strategy. Look at the black inner city across America, complete and utter destruction socially and economically.
190   TwoScoopsPlissken   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 4:52pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

marcus says
What you have to realize is that hey, maybe that's a profitable route for the site to go. Besides, being the right wing Trump supporter that Patrick obviously is, the truth that Iwog puts out there has to get a hard to listen to.


TDS is really what it's all about, hate to say it. Entire posters disappeared, then came back with new handles, full of vitriol.

marcus says
The alt right BS gets tiring. In my book T-lips has always been a tool, but ever since he became a paid troll for the alt right he's become so much worse than just tiresome.


Whereas before, I was a paid troll for Richard Dawkins and the NewAtheists. hahahahaha

Oh, the days when it was Dan who was so crazed in your eyes.

EDIT: Quoted wrong chunk of Marcus. My remarks are now matched to the quoted content
191   krc   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 4:54pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I wouldn't say that this site is dead but I don't visit as often. I don't think either side (alt-right, etreme-left) has taken over this site as the subject lines seem to vary from one side to the next (pro-trump, anti-trump, etc... But, yeah, I visited originally to read the real estate discussions. Then, I enjoyed what seemed to be a combined left/right discussion on feminism and its impacts and over-reach (red pill stuff). And the econ discussions were usually pretty good. Too bad we can't focus on those issues. A lot of name calling, now but I still enjoy seeing IWOG back a bit, even if I don't agree with all of his opinions/thoughts.
192   anon_7cb85   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 5:30pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

iwog says
I don't need to be here in fact I intend not to be.


Yes, we lived through your mike drop, hysterical leaving once before.

Why all the dramatics, just LEAVE?
193   FortWayne   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 5:31pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Iwog sure loves his arguing.
194   anon_7cb85   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 5:32pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says
joshuatrio says
Because non of us get our panties in a twist over internet arguments.


You think that's the way things work? Where's Bob?


He posted yesterday.

iwog says
Where's Logan and SubOink


Logan a week ago, SubOink on the 6th.

You have NO point..
195   Onvacation   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 5:35pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says
UNFORTUNATELY

Actually the main draw is AF. Cannibal anarchy prep is the main purpose of patnet.
Patrick is doing a great service to humanity. Individuals are less than the sum of a community.
Ignore really does work. So post your self congratulatory drivel and be done with it. You don't have to listen to those who disagree with you.
196   FortWayne   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 5:44pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

QFT, af is a celebrity here
Onvacation says
iwog says
UNFORTUNATELY

Actually the main draw is AF. Cannibal anarchy prep is the main purpose of patnet.
Patrick is doing a great service to humanity. Individuals are less than the sum of a community.
Ignore really does work. So post your self congratulatory drivel and be done with it. You don't have to listen to those who disagree with you.
197   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 6:04pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

iwog says
Onvacation says
Actually the main draw is AF. Cannibal anarchy prep is the main purpose of patnet.


Yup he's popular. He has 9 followers. He's 3rd and has been here about as long as I have.

I have 35 and at the peak was near 50.

Those of you trying to kick me off (redundant) are making absolutely asinine arguments or no arguments at all. You are demonstrating that the only skill you have is being a fucking troll. Gosh I wonder why Patnet is a corpse again?


With one wave of the hand, the almighty IWOG decrees an impossibility(users getting him kicked off...only Patrick can do that), and poofs all fact and logic that conspires to point out what a stunning hypocrite he is.
198   iwog   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 8, 6:12pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (6)     quote      

PEACEandGOODWILL says
With one wave of the hand, the almighty IWOG decrees an impossibility(users getting him kicked off...only Patrick can do that), and poofs all fact and logic that conspires to point out what a stunning hypocrite he is.


Nope and your illiteracy isn't serving you well here.

I'm saying it's redundant if I'm kicked off because I've already kicked myself off. Actually I left for about a month before Patrick offered me moderation of the investment forum, which I accepted, but then he decided to put all my political threads under jurisdiction of a horrible person so I gave up.

Can you get me banned? Probably not but it's redundant. English. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
199   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 8:54pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I'm getting pretty sick of users talking about other users and not about actual topics. No one coming here from outside could care less. It's less than zero content. It's anti-content.

Just going to start blowing every every comment that so much as mentions another user.

2018 Jan 8th, 8:52pm is the moment I start deleting any comment talking about another user. Right now.
200   anon_aa05b   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 9:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Just as a quick aside as you’re here Patrick, when I highlight a piece of text to quote, that section appears in the quote box on my Android phone. When I do the same on my iPad, the whole comment appears in the quote box (rather than just the section I wanted).

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