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By Patrick following x   2018 Jan 7, 2:05pm 3,321 views   221 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


I'm working on making it easy to spin up new clones of patrick.net under different domain names.

Anyone have a particular love of a topic and want to be a co-founder of a clone based on that topic? You'd be moderator-god, and own half of the rights to the domain name and the database (the source code would remain open source and available to the public for free). I do the tech, you do writing, moderation, and marketing.

The goal would be to build traffic and revenue (probably advertising) and then sell the thing ASAP, splitting the proceeds.

If you're interested, what topic would it be, and do you have a domain name to use?

#patnet

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41   justme   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 7, 11:30pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Whatever you do @patrick, do not let the site fall by the wayside. You have done way too much good work to let that happen. Yes, my opinion is that mistakes have been made. Too much flip-flopping and failed experimentation(*), and a loss of editorial emphasis and consistency. And I think I have made clear what I think the recipe for success is, in my long list of suggestions on how to make Patnet great again. But do not let it be all for naught. I send my best hopes and wishes that Patnet will rise to greatness once again.

(*) Come to think of it, I can't help but think that the latest offer to fork a bunch of independent sites with separate masters and therefore separate and different editorial rules is just another experiment intended to see what works. Patrick, I have said before that you are like Marissa Mayer who always wanted to tweak the Google homepage and see what worked. The difference is that she had millions of users and it was easy to split-test small changes in separate populations. In the case of patnet, the changes that you want to test are much deeper and complicated than the appearance of the front page (a front page, which by the way is one of the basic strengths pf Patnet, in that website mobile-styling disease has been avoided). And needless to say, split-testing a discussion and information forum is a tricky proposition.

Here's to a happy 2018 and a rebirth of Patnet!
42   justme   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 7, 11:34pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Goran_K says
Welcome back Iwog!


You're being a dick, Goran_K.
43   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 12:04am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

The left -I am right and the supreme being, can insult you, call you names, go down to the gutter etc etc -doesn't matter, I am pure as driven snow- but if you dare stand up for yourself and fight-the end of the world-deplorable-end free speech, a coup is needed
yada, yada, yada. So predictable.
44   BorderPatrol   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 1:00am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

nobody is going to do anything productive here Patrick.

take a look around. the site is plagued with clowns. bad move with giving mods the the wrong people.
45   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 1:19am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I thought somebody put a stake through Iwog's heart and sealed him surrounded by garlic in a cement sarcophagus.

Does this herald a new Patnet era of upgraded vitriol, ad hominems, and general ongoing, vicious pages of pointless retaliation?

Oh, wait, that was Dan! Where's Roberto when we need him most!
46   Booger   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 5:21am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

errc says
Only Failed Losers cower about what their employers may do.

Real Americans tell them to fuck straight off with that anti-American bullshit


I have done this! Seriously!
47   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 7:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

CBOEtrader says
errc says
Why do you need the Federal Government to intervene with citizens who desire to cultivate flowers on their private property.


Legalization means not interfering, but I apologize if I interrupted your virtue signaling


How does Legalization mean not interfering?

Anyways, pay attention to what Trump and his boy Sessions is doing. Not what I’d call not interfering.
48   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 7:28am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

What would a true MAGA response be to USFEDGOV hemp/cannabis Prohibition?


Notice how this gets avoided like the plague. I wonder why lol
49   CBOEtrader   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 7:36am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

errc says
Sessions


Every Trump supporter I know is basically a libertarian. His supporters want legalization. You are preaching to the choir. Sorry if I ruined your fuck Trump supporters rampage this AM.

errc says
So basically Patrick is a big


Be civil or GTFO. Seriously, this is B@llsh*t behavior. Go find somewhere else to troll if you can't stick to the topics.
50   anon_4480e   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 7:43am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

errc says
I’m growing more and more curious as to why @Patrick is so afraid to address this directly. Any of it.


Who the fuck else would he pick? Goran is libertarian (trump) leaning, but he does his job fairly. What else do you want?
51   anon_4480e   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 7:44am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says
Who do you think deserves a platform like this?


Its not about deserve dude. You would be great in a forum of your own, not because you "deserve" it but rather because your have divisive opinions. You would attract both sycophants and trolls alike.

However, YOU IWOG, are exactly the wrong thing needed to encourage an intellectual debate. You consistently attack anyone who disagrees with you. You make any rational discussion run off the rails. For what Patrick says he wants to be going forward, YOU are wrong and GORAN is right. Just my opinion, ofc... and frankly I'd lurk on your flame war site.

Patrick hook up Iwog so he stops dramatizing a non-drama zone please.
52   anon_4480e   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 7:44am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says
Who's going to run the new platform?


Perhaps you, if you don't troll your way out of the opportunity.
53   anon_4480e   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 7:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

@Patrick how much would it cost you to set up and maintain a site like this? I have an immediate need for a private forum, by invite only, to share best cyber-sales practices. If this is only a few $$$/month it may be a better option than a facebook group, etc...
54   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 7:46am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Hi anon_4480e, bare-bones, it would cost something like $15 for the domain name per year and $20/month for the hosting costs.
55   anon_aa05b   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 7:51am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sniper says
iwog says
All that is left is people like Goran trolling and mocking people for not betting him money. Sniper trolling and mocking people for making bad investments. You trolling and mocking people for not being MAGA. Onvacation trolling and mocking people for not answering his questions a billion times. Bass trolling and mocking people with some twilight zone rhetoric that can't even be translated.

This is who is left.


Really, this is who is left? Why did you leave out this list?

BorderPatrol, Marcus, BayAreaObserver, Tim Aurora, Justme, HappyGilmore/JoeyJoey/Tattpt70, Errc, Jazz, Rew and a few others?

Is the site getting quality posts and threads from that list?

Answer honestly!!

Yes.
56   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 7:56am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

justme says
Whatever you do @patrick, do not let the site fall by the wayside. You have done way too much good work to let that happen. Yes, my opinion is that mistakes have been made. Too much flip-flopping and failed experimentation(*), and a loss of editorial emphasis and consistency. And I think I have made clear what I think the recipe for success is, in my long list of suggestions on how to make Patnet great again. But do not let it be all for naught. I send my best hopes and wishes that Patnet will rise to greatness once again.

(*) Come to think of it, I can't help but think that the latest offer to fork a bunch of independent sites with separate masters and therefore separate and different editorial rules is just another experiment intended to see what works. Patrick, I have said before that you are like Marissa Mayer who always wanted to tweak the Google homepage and see what worked. The difference is that she had millions of users and it was easy to split-test small changes in sep...


Thanks @justme I will keep patrick.net pretty much what it is, but I think creating additional sites and having them focused by topic is the way to go. It was actually one of your suggestions that inspired me. You said a blog should have an editorial focus. What is the focus of this site now that it's not about the housing bubble?
57   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 8:07am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

CBOEtrader says
errc says
Sessions


Every Trump supporter I know is basically a libertarian. His supporters want legalization. You are preaching to the choir. Sorry if I ruined your fuck Trump supporters rampage this AM.

errc says
So basically Patrick is a big


Be civil or GTFO. Seriously, this is B@llsh*t behavior. Go find somewhere else to troll if you can't stick to the topics.


Trump supporters want legalization? i'm calling bullshit

Why would people who claim to want limited government and personal freedoms, want the government involved in the dried flower business? Seems pretty strong handed and unnecessary to me

What's wrong with decriminalization?

Libertarians are big phonys who take their orders from the Kochs. Everyone knows this
58   iwog   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 8, 8:08am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

anon_4480e says
iwog says
Who's going to run the new platform?


Perhaps you, if you don't troll your way out of the opportunity.


I know this is a serious subject but this made me laugh. Maybe this is the perception that has things so fucked up.

I'll see if I can spare the time from producing my second movie to run a forum invested with trolls. Checking my calendar...........

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm8359870/
59   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 8:14am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

justme says
You're being a dick, Goran_K.!


This technically falls under the personal attack rule, but in this case I'll let it slide.

Happy New Year!
60   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 8:16am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Patrick says
What is the focus of this site now that it's not about the housing bubble?


The impending bubble?
61   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 8:17am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says
I know this is a serious subject but this made me laugh. Maybe this is the perception that has things so fucked up.

I'll see if I can spare the time from producing my second movie to run a forum invested with trolls. Checking my calendar...........

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm8359870/


You're a bonafide Hollywood guy. I like it!
62   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 8:18am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

@iwog,

If you don't want to do it, no biggie. However, you could start a web site and either (1) publish that publicly here and then ban any trolls who migrate over (that might be hard or time consuming) or (2) start a new forum and invite whatever users you want through pm. The problem with number (2) is that you have made yourself known, so any advertisement associated with your name or through the red pill movie will attract a certain stalker, who will cross post over here.
After some brief thought, these don't sound like great options.
63   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 8:32am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

I have to watch this Red Pill movie. Sounds interesting.

Also looking nice and sharp in your producer photos Iwog.
64   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 8:43am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

As to the thread topic,

I don't know if it's a great idea overall Patrick. You have to watch out what you associate with your name, now that's it's all out there. Someone could start a very toxic sub-forum with very controversial stuff. Say it gets extremely popular, you could have a problem on your hands with such content associated with your name. I wouldn't expose myself to the risk honestly.
65   anon_aa05b   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 8:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
justme says
Whatever you do @patrick, do not let the site fall by the wayside. You have done way too much good work to let that happen. Yes, my opinion is that mistakes have been made. Too much flip-flopping and failed experimentation(*), and a loss of editorial emphasis and consistency. And I think I have made clear what I think the recipe for success is, in my long list of suggestions on how to make Patnet great again. But do not let it be all for naught. I send my best hopes and wishes that Patnet will rise to greatness once again.

(*) Come to think of it, I can't help but think that the latest offer to fork a bunch of independent sites with separate masters and therefore separate and different editorial rules is just another experiment intended to see what works. Patrick, I have said before that you are like Marissa Mayer who always wanted to tweak the Google homepage and see what worked. The difference...

How can you keep the site as it is and also create all these other sites without diluting the entirety? This is already a site with a minuscule audience. How are a multitude of micro sites with next to no viewership going to grow? They will never get the necessary traffic.
66   anon_4480e   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 8:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says
anon_4480e says
iwog says
Who's going to run the new platform?


Perhaps you, if you don't troll your way out of the opportunity.


I know this is a serious subject but this made me laugh. Maybe this is the perception that has things so fucked up.

I'll see if I can spare the time from producing my second movie to run a forum invested with trolls. Checking my calendar...........

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm8359870/


That was an excellent movie!
67   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 8:51am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

How are a multitude of micro sites with next to no viewership going to grow? They will never get the necessary traffic.


A small site with a tight editorial focus will attract a narrow but devoted audience.
68   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 8:51am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Goran_K says
As to the thread topic,

I don't know if it's a great idea overall Patrick. You have to watch out what you associate with your name, now that's it's all out there. Someone could start a very toxic sub-forum with very controversial stuff. Say it gets extremely popular, you could have a problem on your hands with such content associated with your name. I wouldn't expose myself to the risk honestly.


You mean like when Sniper doxxed Roberto by calling in a fake gun threat at his job?

That’s your boy
69   TwoScoopsPlissken   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 8:56am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Hey @Patrick

Why do some people think they're doing you a favor by using Patrick.net? I'm completely mystified by the attitude. It's not like there are ads all over that people are clicking on and you're making big money from revenue.
70   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 9:01am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Hey @Patrick

Why do some people think they're doing you a favor by using Patrick.net? I'm completely mystified by the attitude. It's not like there are ads all over that people are clicking on and you're making big money from revenue.


Why bother hosting an Internet forum if not to have people posting on it?
71   CBOEtrader   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 9:05am   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says
Patrick allowed him to be bullied off the site by Sniper.


You seemed to bully off more people than anyone. Your constant toxic tone made it impossible just to discuss something.

The site is now reinventing itself in a format more supportive of discussion rather than flame wars. Flame wars aren't fun to read or to be in. I think Goran has done a good job of limiting personal flames while allowing discussion.

Here is iwog, back for less than a day and already starting the most toxic thread I've seen on pat.net in months.

Iwog, try leading by example. I certainly hope you prove me wrong, but I don't think you have it in you to discuss a topic w/o flaming someone.
72   anon_13ce6   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 9:08am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Patrick says
What is the focus of this site now that it's not about the housing bubble?


The art of trolling. Or trumpcucks being trumpcucks.

And no, this is not Errc.
73   anon_527f7   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 9:08am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Yes I want to create forum for anti bullying. 1000 days to prevent getting bullied and how to avenge your high school bullies (reasonably legal methods ). Though we want all suggestions.
74   anon_aa05b   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 9:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
How are a multitude of micro sites with next to no viewership going to grow? They will never get the necessary traffic.


A small site with a tight editorial focus will attract a narrow but devoted audience.

So why don’t you try and do it for this site rather than diluting it? I just don’t get the logic. How can you say you’ll keep this site the same but also start all the others? What about the obvious overlap?
75   anon_aa05b   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 9:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Hey @Patrick

Why do some people think they're doing you a favor by using Patrick.net? I'm completely mystified by the attitude. It's not like there are ads all over that people are clicking on and you're making big money from revenue.

Who has said they’re doing him a favor?
76   iwog   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 8, 9:42am   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (5)     quote      

When you can't accurately call someone a liar with specific examples of that person lying, the forum will die.

Quality matters. Character matters. You CANNOT have a community unless you get rid of the shit.

There are no fucking exceptions Patrick, when are you going to learn this???
77   CBOEtrader   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 8, 9:54am   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Well Iwog just in this thread you blame sniper for SubOink leaving when suboink 1) posted 2 days ago and 2) specifically labelled your handiwork as a reason for being unsatisfied here.

So yet again, you disagree w someone over something silly, and feel justified to flame. This is exactly the type of behavior we are trying to move past in this forum.

Quality matters. Character matters. You CANNOT have a community unless you get rid of the shit.

We've done a great job cleaning up the toxic behavior, until you show up and start calling people liars for differences of opinions on wordchoice.

Try being respectful to everyone, even those you disagree with.
78   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 8, 9:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

errc says

Why do some people think they're doing you a favor by using Patrick.net? I'm completely mystified by the attitude. It's not like there are ads all over that people are clicking on and you're making big money from revenue.


Don't know what happened, so I can't comment on that incident.

But I will say for the most part, you shouldn't put out so much personal info on the internet like Roberto was doing, and then on top of that, act antagonistically towards people who don't agree with you every other post. No a good recipe for your personal information not being abused.
79   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 8, 9:57am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Goran_K says
errc says

Why do some people think they're doing you a favor by using Patrick.net? I'm completely mystified by the attitude. It's not like there are ads all over that people are clicking on and you're making big money from revenue.


Don't know what happened, so I can't comment on that incident.

But I will say for the most part, you shouldn't put out so much personal info on the internet like Roberto was doing, and then on top of that, act antagonistically towards people who don't agree with you every other post. No a good recipe for your personal information not being abused.


So it’s Roberto fault that Sniper/CiC doxxed him at work with a fale gun threat.

Interesting angle
80   iwog   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 8, 10:06am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (5)     quote      

Everyone is happy in their echo chamber.

Those chambers keep getting smaller and smaller, but yeah y'all are happy there.

The only bizarre thing is why Patrick can't figure out why it's getting smaller and smaller.

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