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I just marked several of Goran's comments directed at me as uncivil. Never used the uncivil button before (and never used the dislike button unit 2 days ago). Just stating the facts...
People have been using PatNet as a way to vent for years. This isn't anything new. But when Trump got elected, for some reason (you can guess why), it hit a new level of fervor. It's gotten toxic and I've seen reasonable posters from the past just completely lose their shit and get super toxic. Pretty sad.
The anti-Trump crowd denies that they already have most of the power, and no doubt also fears that they will soon be penalized in real life for saying that they think, even though everything is currently organized they way they want it and no other way is allowed consideration, even under Trump. And I'm sure they feel Trump is a real threat to the stability of the country
Damore as someone very much like me who is simply not allowed to speak objective facts.
Doesn't that prove the fact that liberalism is truly a mental disease.
This isn't #politics. Does Goran now have free reign over the whole site?
I think leftism, and far rightism are both toxic and harmful.
Agreed. It's obvious though that before the Trump presidency leftism had a much firmer grip on the nation than far-rightism, and it still has quite some pull. People often then counter with economic policies which are not a good example anymore since the modern, globalist left concentrates all its extremism on identity politics, while economically they appear more centrist since the people who pull the strings of identity politics benefit from globalism and divide and conquer. It's in fact a very toxic mix that the left has morphed into and people have started to wake up.
That's funny--I find Trump to be just the opposite. He seems much more divisive than any President in recent memory.
Oh I agree. Far rightism has declined so far that places like StormFront are having a hard time attracting members. They don't control the media, they don't control education, they don't control ... anything.
The far left however has the tacit cooperation of the "moderate left" in the media, education, and hollywood. That's why I believe leftism is the primary threat to the country at this time. That could change in the future but for now the left has all the power and influence, and Trump was a stab at that powerful entity. That's why the reaction to him was so vile and widespread throughout the left. Trump is the first guy to stand up their power structure and threaten it.
Funny thing is, and I didn't think this would happen, Trump is winning way more than he is losing. Guy might be a genius. :)
FP, I have access to the moderation queue. You are abusing the uncivil button and will lose access to it if you keep this up. I've restored the comments so anyone can see that I was not levying personal attacks.
How so? In Charlottesville he correctly made the distinction between those who protest the removal of the statues and the white supremacists. He wants to keep as many people united as possible except for those that truly want to divide. As a counterexample I can only shudder when I think of Obama's handling of the George Zimmerman case where the tapes where DELIBERATELY DOCTORED (cut and paste) to make look Zimmerman - who had previously fought for a homeless black man to get shelter - like a racist. And Obama went through with that narrative. It can't be anymore divisive to start a race war over a case that clearly wasn't racist.
Got laughed at when I suggested DT may be candidate, let alone win. Was very close to place 300:1 bet, unfortunately of course I also had doubts and thought no way so I lost out on 100K or so, but the following MAGA stock market redeemed the lost opportunity and then some ;)
mell saysHow so? In Charlottesville he correctly made the distinction between those who protest the removal of the statues and the white supremacists. He wants to keep as many people united as possible except for those that truly want to divide. As a counterexample I can only shudder when I think of Obama's handling of the George Zimmerman case where the tapes where DELIBERATELY DOCTORED (cut and paste) to make look Zimmerman - who had previously fought for a homeless black man to get shelter - like a racist. And Obama went through with that narrative. It can't be anymore divisive to start a race war over a case that clearly wasn't racist.I think this is the problem with Trumpism in general in that it encourages distrust and people to have their own "facts". When nobody can agree on truth and facts, it leads to very poor decision making. How can people come together when a large portion of th...
@Patrick,The comments were personal attacks against me and according the new rules must be deleted. I will check now if the comments have been restored. If they have, then I will not comment on this site any more.
You had the Press Secretary blatantly lying about the size of the inauguration crowd, then Kellyanne stating that they have "their own facts" as if that's OK. That pretty much set the tone.
mell saysGot laughed at when I suggested DT may be candidate, let alone win. Was very close to place 300:1 bet, unfortunately of course I also had doubts and thought no way so I lost out on 100K or so, but the following MAGA stock market redeemed the lost opportunity and then some ;)You're not alone. I had a chance to place very lucrative bets on whether Trump would win and passed them up without thinking twice. Imagine a $10,000 at even 100 to 1. Now, seems like such a small wager, but in October 2016, quite risky.
mell saysFine, but that's a nothingburger compared to fanning the fire of racial divides and possible violence.I disagree---purposeful disregard for the truth is FAR, FAR worse, IMO.
Fine, but that's a nothingburger compared to fanning the fire of racial divides and possible violence.
Brother Goran I understand your reasons and indubitably they are yours to make however going back all of my years I have never seen a member's goodbye thread erased from a website.Those who had the pleasure to actually see it before it was yanked would agree with me that there wasn't anything the least bit abusive in his goodbye. People have commented that he was a long time user and although I had never talked with him, I'm sure at least a few people here appreciated him sharing his investment insights.I admit that I am probably quite naive about all the circumstances but how come he was not even allowed to say goodbye?
Nevertheless it was deleted right when I was composing my Fare Thee Well. I doubt very many people got to see it because it was only left up a few minutes before getting squashed.
I have no doubt Iwog may have unleashed some rant against PatNet in his farewell thread and that's what probably got it nuked.
Good grief no. I would have expected iwog to be deleted for such an outrage. It was simply a heartfelt goodbye and good luck. If I had saved a copy I would Post-it. I've only been here a short time but it gave me a very uneasy feeling seeing someone get banned in this way.
I didn't read it
but I have no doubt Iwog may have unleashed some rant against PatNet in his farewell thread
that's what probably got it nuked.
I wasn't the one who nuked that thread. I wouldn't nuke a "good bye" thread.
Not very many people get banned on here
It's in the "about" post now: "Mic-drop" comments and posts are also instantly nuked the moment I see them. If you want to leave, leave. Public announcements of leaving are intended to be inflammatory and therefore are banned.
Goran_K saysNot very many people get banned on here Aside from actual robotic spam-bots, only one user was ever banned. And he came back and is still here, though I find I have to frequently delete his comments because they are about the other users.
I changed the "uncivil" link to "personal" to better reflect what it means.It means that the comment was about the person instead of purely about the point they are making
Right on, Poobah Pat!Niceness Counts!Remember, you fucking cunts, we're a family website!
Maybe you should just allow banner ads or side ads-don't know how much they net?
Perma ban trouble-makers. Why waste precious time moderating their posts daily?