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No surprise here. Trump folds again, this time on H1-B

By HappyGilmore following x   2018 Jan 9, 5:45am 1,020 views   22 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article193665859.html
"WASHINGTON
Under intense pressure from the business and technology communities, the Trump administration appears to be backing away from a policy change that could have forced foreign tech workers out of the country."
1   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 9, 5:51am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

You have two choices. Move the tech guys here or move the companies out to their country. Pick your poison.
2   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 9, 5:57am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Hope and Change 2016 let down again

Big Surprise!!

But at least he’s trolling the media and has #Fake News awards on deck. Very important President stuff. Bigly
3   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 9, 6:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Tim Aurora says
You have two choices. Move the tech guys here or move the companies out to their country. Pick your poison.


That's like choosing between heroine and alcohol. I choose alcohol.
Even if the companies stay here they could move departments out of the country, or just outsource.
4   Tenpoundbass   ignore (10)   2018 Jan 9, 6:13am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

No where in that article does Trump Tweet his intentions to pull out.
This isn't the first time the Media tried to put change of heart words in Trumps mouth, only for him to deny it later.
5   Booger   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 9, 6:17am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Yep, fake news.
6   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 9, 6:37am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Tim Aurora says
You have two choices. Move the tech guys here or move the companies out to their country. Pick your poison.


Absolute crap. There are plenty of US tech guys. There aren't plenty of US tech guys willing to work longs hour cheaply.
7   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 9, 6:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

bob2356 says
Absolute crap. There are plenty of US tech guys. There aren't plenty of US tech guys willing to work longs hour cheaply.


You do know that all these H1-B Tech guys get paid "standard wages" , mostly above $100K and some as much as $200K. Granted that sometimes they are are taken advantage of but still they are being paid handsomely.

So you can either look at the facts or blow your horn with slogans .
8   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 9, 6:47am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
There aren't plenty of US tech guys willing to work longs hour cheaply.


This is why companies would move overseas to stay competitive.
9   HappyGilmore   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 9, 6:50am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Strategist says

This is why companies would move overseas to stay competitive.


Race to the bottom!!
10   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 9, 7:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HappyGilmore says
Strategist says

This is why companies would move overseas to stay competitive.


Race to the bottom!!


Call it what you will. The fact is a profit seeking company will find loopholes to get around regulations. When the product is a bunch of electrons, it can be exported or imported at the push of a button, from anywhere to everywhere.
11   HappyGilmore   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 9, 7:02am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Strategist says
The fact is a profit seeking company will find loopholes to get around regulations.


So you close the loopholes, you don't give up.
12   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 9, 7:04am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HappyGilmore says
Strategist says
The fact is a profit seeking company will find loopholes to get around regulations.


So you close the loopholes, you don't give up.


Sure, it's a piece of cake. We can't stop drugs and people coming into the country, but we can stop electrons?
13   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 9, 7:49am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

It will surely be difficult—but most things worth doing are.
14   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 9, 8:35am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Tim Aurora says
You do know that all these H1-B Tech guys get paid "standard wages" , mostly above $100K and some as much as $200K. Granted that sometimes they are are taken advantage of but still they are being paid handsomely.


Talk to me about Disney. Or southern california edison. or northeast utilities. or any of the other companies where US workers have trained their outsourced replacements. Are you seriously suggesting they were training their own replacements because the us workers already doing the work weren't available to do their own jobs? The H!-b is supposed to be to find foreign workers with skills that aren't available from a US worker (of which there are very, very few), not to displace people for lower wages.

They are paid standard wages if they are a direct company hire. How much do the outsourcing companies pay? What are standard wages for the india based companies bringing people in on an outsourcing basis?
15   HappyGilmore   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 10, 8:33am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Booger says
Yep, fake news.


Nope. Real news.

https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/2018/01/09/h-1b-relief-for-indian-workers-us-says-no-change-in-h-1b-extension-policy
Trump folded like a cheap suit again... How soon til he announces he's leaving NAFTA as is?
16   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 10, 8:37am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Strategist says
We can't stop drugs and people coming into the country,


We could if we really wanted to. It's been done before.
17   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (30)   2018 Jan 10, 8:40am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
How much do the outsourcing companies pay?


They pay crap for crap and charge US corporate suckers for often what amounts to a meaningless discount compared to lost productivity.

Was approached by a broker about selling outsourcing in the states. He was surprised to meet Apocalypse Fuck in real life.
20   anotheraccount   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 10, 3:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HappyGilmore says
Trump folded like a cheap suit again... How soon til he announces he's leaving NAFTA as is?


Not gonna happen. Bannon is not there anymore.
21   WatermelonUniversity   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 10, 9:42pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

like i said BigPileOfSh*T isn't going to do sh*t.

all he cares is tax cuts for his companies and friends.
22   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 11, 7:14am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anotheraccount says
HappyGilmore says
Trump folded like a cheap suit again... How soon til he announces he's leaving NAFTA as is?


Not gonna happen. Bannon is not there anymore.


He’s going to change NAFTA to include the worst parts of the TPP. Then his work will be done




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