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So when people destroy public priceless monuments that's fine, but destroy a Warhol painting and you get life for prison.

By Tenpoundbass following x   2018 Jan 10, 6:27pm 665 views   11 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018/01/10/texas-woman-faces-life-prison-alleged-destruction-andy-warhol-paintings/

HOUSTON, Texas — A woman from Dallas, Texas, faces up to life if prison if she is convicted on charges she damaged more than $300,000 worth of art at the end of a first date. The damaged art, owned by a prominent Houston attorney, includes two paintings by famed artist Andy Warhol.
1   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 10, 7:14pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I'm really sad they took down the statue of Robert E. Lee at Lee Circle in New Orleans. I passed that statue every day when I lived there and it was an icon and NOT an icon of racism. That's like the Taliban destroying historic Buddhist temples in the Middle East.
2   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 10, 7:22pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Today they pull statues down of America, tomorrow they’ll burn books, then they’ll come after whites.


Ceffer says
I'm really sad they took down the statue of Robert E. Lee at Lee Circle in New Orleans. I passed that statue every day when I lived there and it was an icon and NOT an icon of racism. That's like the Taliban destroying historic Buddhist temples in the Middle East.
3   Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Jan 10, 8:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Here's a status of Oliver Cromwell, just outside of Parliament, a man who's possibly the most controversial potentate of Britain ...



Posthumously, he was tried and convicted for the murder of Charles I and as a result. had his grave removed from Westminster Abbey.

And realize, this man could have been "psychotic", as he'd felt that the success of his military dictatorship was God's way and he was his instrument. Still, centuries later, his statue is right there near Parliament because in effect ... his reign ended the notion that the divinely anointed king would be able to railroad a parliamentary based society by regal aegis.

Good or bad, he's history and thus, his statue remains.
4   junkmail   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 10, 10:42pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Just read an article in (think NYT) about the stiff fines and punitive actions against Tonja Harding, because, as it turns out, her ex kneecapped Nancy. Press made her out to be the guilty one for years.

On a lighter note, at a dinner party, some brave fella said he was glad Manson was dead because he was a ‘mass murderer’. I asked who he killed an you would have thought charades had just started, with everyone calling out names. In the end they all decided he had it coming because he was anti-Semitic.

Also... just got a postcard from Harvey, “Having a whale of a time here in Thailand”. “Beautiful girls, and so accommodating!! (Smiley face)

I think we need to get in the same page here about our press and the state of society. Failing that, just endlessly write stupid pro and anti Trump shit.

Honestly, wasn’t this a free thinking forum at one point? Enough with the polarizing... it’s soooo fucking boring.
5   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 11, 11:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Rin says
Posthumously, he was tried and convicted for the murder of Charles I and as a result. had his grave removed from Westminster Abbey.

And realize, this man could have been "psychotic", as he'd felt that the success of his military dictatorship was God's way and he was his instrument. Still, centuries later, his statue is right there near Parliament because in effect ... his reign ended the notion that the divinely anointed king would be able to railroad a parliamentary based society by regal aegis.

Good or bad, he's history and thus, his statue remains.


Boldface mine, and the reason I disagree with the removal of the civil war stuff. We unfortunately think anything in public is our collective way of revering them, but I don't mind giving people exposure to the darker, more complicated, more sinister views of who "we" are as a society. Imagine if Hitler was from Dubuke Iowa - in this case you can argue that you can have plaques about his boyhood home, maybe even a statute marking the location where he first committed an atrocity of some sort. It would be controversial, but once you get past the knee jerk horror, I like the fact it forces you to think about history and all the many sides of it versus the sanitized side that we normally see.
6   HEYYOU   ignore (17)   2018 Jan 11, 12:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
then they’ll come after whites.


No problem as long as Reps & Dems are targeted.
8   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 11, 2:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Rin says
Good or bad, he's history and thus, his statue remains.

On what basis would people demand that his statue be removed? Now compare that with Lee...
9   cynn   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 11, 3:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Bullshit. put all these statues in a private park somewhere. Remember how ISIS destroyed Mosul antiquities? Either they survive history, or they don't. Let these stupid Confederate semi-art pieces be a sideshow somewhere.
10   Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Jan 11, 10:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anon_d06f9 says
Rin says
Posthumously, he was tried and convicted for the murder of Charles I and as a result. had his grave removed from Westminster Abbey.

And realize, this man could have been "psychotic", as he'd felt that the success of his military dictatorship was God's way and he was his instrument. Still, centuries later, his statue is right there near Parliament because in effect ... his reign ended the notion that the divinely anointed king would be able to railroad a parliamentary based society by regal aegis.

Good or bad, he's history and thus, his statue remains.


Boldface mine, and the reason I disagree with the removal of the civil war stuff


anon_1fe2e says
On what basis would people demand that his statue be removed? Now compare that with Lee...


Both were civil wars, the first in Britain and the latter, in America.

In effect, the main difference between Cromwell and Lee is that Cromwell won and was able to execute the king, force Puritanism onto the Anglican population, and be a general dickhead by persecuting Irish Catholics. Remember, Cromwell died of old age before his dictatorship had ended. Lee never had the chance to pull something like that off.

Ask yourself why so many British emigrated to North America during the 17th century? ... it was because of the English Civil War, not because they were shagging Pocahontas.

If Lee had won, chances are that the north would still be the north and the south would still be Jim Crow (which it was post-Reconstruction era, regardless) but with a border crossing point outside of DC. In reality, Lee did not change the fabric of American society, Cromwell did because no monarch following Charles I, ever regained full power against the ways of Parliamentary rule. Good or bad, Cromwell changed Britain forever.
11   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 12, 7:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

It's still not the same. The nature of what he was campaigning for is very different. Also note that though the statue was divisive at the time, it was not trying to glorify him in the same public square type way that the Lee statues were paid and put up for. I don't generally agree with tearing down statues, but I am, however, perfectly aware of the Lee statue's far greater symbolism, something which you are glossing over, and something which clearly explains why plenty of people are happy to see them go.




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