Does Anyone Object to a Merit Based Immigration System?
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Does Anyone Object to a Merit Based Immigration System?

By NewGuy following x   2018 Jan 11, 9:50pm 608 views   47 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


It seems like a good idea to me. My ideal system would be take all Visa applicants in a given year, stack rank them based on objective criteria like college degrees, iq tests, special skills, dollar value of employment offers, etc. Accept the top 1% (or whatever percent we want based on current needs). Immigrants could bring immediate family (spouse and children) all would get green cards and eventually citizenship. Disabled parents could be brought in on non work visas if the kid is a family type that wants to watch out for them. Siblings and cousins are out of luck but can enjoy brief visits on tourist visas.

We would reserve a small number of visas, 10k per year for refugees, but again stack ranked by hardship level, can only bring immediate family, etc.

No other visas allowed.

Does anyone have a good argument against a largely merit based system like this?

I'm going to list the objections I have heard so far to a merit based system, let me know if I'm missing anything:
- Un-American
- Current laws not enforced, if they were, current system is good enough
- Current system is good enough
- Implementation detail problems, how to rank immigrants, how to enforce / administer system, cost / complexity of system
- We don't need any new immigrants
- Too many Asians

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41   someone else   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 12:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

NewGuy says
I think a lot of liberals are opposed to immigration because Trump wants to curb it and Trump == Bad.


I'd even go further, and say in their minds Trump === Bad. (javascript joke there)
42   NewGuy   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 1:27pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I wish this blog had a wiki post option that could be edited by any user. I edited the original post to include objections that I have heard so far, but it would be better if people could edit the list of objections themselves so I accurately state their position.
43   anon_1fe2e   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 4:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
I studied for a year in Austria in college and was quite shocked to hear that they had a law barring foreigners from owning land.

When was this as it's certainly not what I know from recent decades?
44   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 4:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Lol, quite a while ago, in the 80's.
45   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 4:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

NewGuy says
I wish this blog had a wiki post option that could be edited by any user. I edited the original post to include objections that I have heard so far, but it would be better if people could edit the list of objections themselves so I accurately state their position.


Sure, that would not be hard, but I don't have any rollback system to deal with vandalism.

What if someone just mangles your original post?
46   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 5:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

@NewGuy you know, that's a good idea and it would also not be hard to have a revisions table. So for any post, as soon as there is an edit by someone other than the original author, the previous version would get stored, and the original author could revert to any previous version.

Is it worth trying?
47   NewGuy   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 8:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I’m sure given the proper UI a wiki would be easy to manage. The question is if the users here are actually interested in learning anything anymore or if they just want to argue.

There’s probably a ton of topics on this board where a sticky wiki page updated with the best info from the thread would be useful. The question would be how big of an issue the vandalism would be.

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