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Trump Family Business Is Only 1/10 Of What The President Has Touted


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2018 Jan 20, 9:02pm   7,391 views  20 comments

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The Trump Organization’s Inflated revenue figures are “flagrantly untrue,” said a Crain’s reporter.
By Mary Papenfuss

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-organization-one-tenth-value_us_5a10ea53e4b045cf4371dfde
Donald Trump has an inflated view of his assets. The president’s family business is worth about one-tenth of the value he has claimed, according to an analysis of the latest figures he has filed with the federal government.

Some of the discrepancy is due to a downturn in business, but the rest is credited to an overheated imagination, according to Crain’s New York Business reporter Aaron Elstein, who examined the numbers.

Elstein told NPR he feels a bit like he was played.

In 2016 the Trump Organization reported nearly $9.5 billion in sales. But recent public filings by the president indicate that the company’s actual revenue that year was only as much as $700 million, Crain’s said.

Crain’s determined Trump has been reporting inflated revenue since at least 2010. After examining the latest figures Trump has filed, Crain’s this month bounced the Trump Organization from the No. 3 spot on its list of largest privately held New York City companies down to No. 40.

“It was obviously very important to Donald to have his company on the top of the list ... but the numbers that he presented are just flagrantly untrue,” Elstein told NPR. Crain’s said the $9.5 billion in revenue looks “preposterous in light of federal filings made by the president in the past year.”

Trump’s properties aren’t doing so well, even though it’s “halcyon days” for real estate developers, according to Crain’s. Not only are the Trump Organization’s plans to develop a Scion hotel in Manhattan apparently dead in the water, but “prices are slumping for condos at Trump Tower and the Trump International Hotel and Tower,” Crain’s said.

The average price per square foot for condos at Trump Tower has fallen by 23 percent since 2015, The Wall Street Journal reported, while prices at other midtown developments have remained steady. At Trump’s International Hotel and Tower on Central Park, the average price per square foot is down 24 percent.

And revenue is down on the Trump Golf Links at Ferry Point in the Bronx, falling by more than $1.1 million in the past two years, to $5.7 million, Crain’s reported.

Trump also toppled on another list, down an astonishing 92 places (to No. 248), in Forbes’ rankings of richest men in America. But Trump remains a billionaire on the Forbes list, where he clocks in at $3.1 billion in total assets. He also took a dive on Bloomberg’s Billionaires index, but is credited with still having a total $2.9 billion in assets, as far as Bloomberg knows.

In 2015 Trump boasted: “My massive net worth is in excess of $10 billion.”

Net worth is a subjective “feeling,” Trump said in a 2006 deposition when he sued author Timothy O’Brien, who wrote Trump Nation, a book that was critical of him. “My net worth fluctuates, and it goes up and down with markets and with attitudes and with feelings, even my own feelings,” he said then.

Since Trump hasn’t released his tax returns, as presidents typically do, his income and information about holdings is murky.

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington is currently suing Trump for failing to put his business interests into a blind trust.

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1   anonymous   2018 Jan 20, 9:47pm  

2   WatermelonUniversity   2018 Jan 20, 11:04pm  

only European banks are lending to Trump now due to his 4 bankruptcies. needed to up the bullshit revenue to get more loans.
3   Ceffer   2018 Jan 20, 11:26pm  

Ten Percent true is pretty good for Trump. If he knew it was ten percent true, he wouldn't have said it.
4   georgeliberte   2018 Jan 21, 5:21am  

Is this a surprise? I wonder that he does not have a negative net worth. His dadddy should have put the family money in a trust so Donnie would not lose it all.
5   anonymous   2018 Jan 21, 8:31am  

Hahaha com artist exposed
6   Onvacation   2018 Jan 21, 9:02am  

anon_fad35 says
Hahaha com artist exposed

Both DC AND Marvel comics are fighting over the rights to the story..
7   anonymous   2018 Jan 21, 10:13am  

Too bad a joke doesn’t make this article go away.

Onvacation says
anon_fad35 says
Hahaha com artist exposed

Both DC AND Marvel comics are fighting over the rights to the story..
8   anonymous   2018 Jan 21, 5:03pm  

BorderPatrol says
The Trump Organization’s Inflated revenue figures are “flagrantly untrue,” said a Crain’s reporter.


Let's see, a story where the data came from a single reporter. What do we know about that Crain's reporter??

About Aaron Elstein -
Birthday: 01/09/1969
Income: Info Pending...
Current Net Worth: Info Pending...
Political Affiliation: Democrat Party

Aaron Elstein is 49 years old and was born on 01/09/1969. Currently, he lives in New York, NY; Sometimes Aaron goes by various nicknames including Aaron S Elstein. He currently works as a senior reporter at Crain's new york business. His political affiliation is currently a registered Democrat Party.
https://www.mylife.com/aaron-elstein/e202341311238
Darn, another FAKE news story!!
9   anonymous   2018 Jan 22, 8:38am  

anon_57466 says
Darn, another FAKE news story!!


So show the real numbers if crain's numbers are fake. We will wait. Forever.
10   WatermelonUniversity   2018 Jan 22, 11:36am  

anon_e144f says
anon_57466 says
Darn, another FAKE news story!!


So show the real numbers if crain's numbers are fake. We will wait. Forever.


he won't be as every single reports backs up this story.

straw-man attack when there's no proof to support your claims.
11   anonymous   2018 Jan 22, 2:26pm  

BorderPatrol says
straw-man attack when there's no proof to support your claims.


If we only had a Ring of Fire video from that bald dickhead to clear up all the questions. Now that's some QUALITY reporting!!
12   anonymous   2018 Jan 22, 3:31pm  

There are many other reports confirming the OP’s story, going back as early as 2015, if one cares to google.

anon_0e788 says
BorderPatrol says
straw-man attack when there's no proof to support your claims.


If we only had a Ring of Fire video from that bald dickhead to clear up all the questions. Now that's some QUALITY reporting!!
13   WatermelonUniversity   2018 Jan 23, 12:47am  

fact checking an article can be a challenge for some people.

anon_fad35 says
There are many other reports confirming the OP’s story, going back as early as 2015, if one cares to google.

anon_0e788 says
BorderPatrol says
straw-man attack when there's no proof to support your claims.


If we only had a Ring of Fire video from that bald dickhead to clear up all the questions. Now that's some QUALITY reporting!!
14   anonymous   2018 Jan 23, 7:41am  

Wow 20 downvotes lol

Keep that in mind when attempting to reason with the Trumpcucks
15   anonymous   2018 Jan 23, 8:40am  

BorderPatrol says
fact checking an article can be a challenge for some people.



Exactly, that's why we need these TDS videos from Ring of Fire for all the true facts!
16   WookieMan   2018 Jan 23, 11:10am  

BorderPatrol says
anon_e144f says
anon_57466 says
Darn, another FAKE news story!!


So show the real numbers if crain's numbers are fake. We will wait. Forever.


he won't be as every single reports backs up this story.

straw-man attack when there's no proof to support your claims.


Practice what you preach my friend. Practice what you preach.

BorderPatrol says
completely wrong. i only put down $10K. what tied up money are we talking about here? my housing expenses is $2440 and the rent is $2600. I am SAVING money by buying at the right time.


Please show your numbers. We're waiting. The question has been asked multiple times.

BorderPatrol says

tell me something i haven't heard before. but what you don't realize, what you repeated is only for the average people. when one can turn $10K in to $160K over 5 years, how is that not a good investment?


FYI, it's a great investment when it's true. Numbers don't lie fortunately.
17   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jan 23, 11:34am  

This whole thing is a rinse, wash, repeat cycle.

1. Russian-Collusion (now less often)
2. Mentally Ill
3. Girtherism
4. Overstating Wealth
5. Mean Tweets - instead let our 90%+ Democrat Journalist, 90% Oligarch Media 'interpret' the WH for your benefit!

Cycle and repeat every few weeks...

Everybody knows Trump Sunny Isles, Trump Tower, Briarcliff, Mar-a-Lago, etc. etc. are only worth a few thousand bucks each. You can check on Zillow for yourself.
18   anonymous   2018 Jan 23, 12:48pm  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
This whole thing is a rinse, wash, repeat cycle.

1. Russian-Collusion (now less often)
2. Mentally Ill
3. Girtherism
4. Overstating Wealth
5. Mean Tweets - instead let our 90%+ Democrat Journalist, 90% Oligarch Media 'interpret' the WH for your benefit!

Cycle and repeat every few weeks...

Everybody knows Trump Sunny Isles, Trump Tower, Briarcliff, Mar-a-Lago, etc. etc. are only worth a few thousand bucks each. You can check on Zillow for yourself.


Trump Ocean Club Internacional is worth hundreds of millions, largely because of its value to criminals laundering money.

Ask @ApocalypseFuck, he’s posted many times about Trump ties to organized crime
19   WatermelonUniversity   2018 Jan 23, 1:15pm  

errc says
Wow 20 downvotes lol

Keep that in mind when attempting to reason with the Trumpcucks


23 down votes and not a single credible response refuting any of the article's claims.

apparently Trump sheep are not big on facts.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Trump isn't tied to the Russian mafia; he's fully integrated into the laundering infrastructure. They can't take control of banks the way they do in Russia so they have to absorb and co-opt fuckwits like Trump.

The side effect of the Mueller investigation is going to be revelations about American and European banking interests that will be healthy for everyone to know about.


There have been A LOT of talks about money laundering. Trumps days are numbered. he has pissed off enough that he is going to join Nixon soon.
20   anonymous   2018 Jan 23, 2:25pm  

BorderPatrol says
apparently Trump sheep are not big on facts.


anon_26e00 says
Exactly, that's why we need these TDS videos from Ring of Fire for all the true facts!

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