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The Plumbing of Socialism


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2018 Jan 27, 8:46am   1,736 views  10 comments

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1   anonymous   2018 Jan 27, 9:18am  

Sounds like we should stop fighting each other and start fighting our elected officials. Too bad they split us up into teams. Those politicians are playing us both.
2   justme   2018 Jan 27, 1:01pm  

The above is a cartoon of trickle-down economics, with the fat cat capitalist sitting in the chair. Just fix the text and the cartoon is spot on.
3   Patrick   2018 Jan 27, 1:06pm  

anon_08049 says
Sounds like we should stop fighting each other and start fighting our elected officials. Too bad they split us up into teams. Those politicians are playing us both.


Yes, this is an excellent idea. I'm actually going to start a website with one post for each of the 535 Congressmen, so we can comment on them personally and on how they voted.

justme says
The above is a cartoon of trickle-down economics, with the fat cat capitalist sitting in the chair. Just fix the text and the cartoon is spot on.


Of course you're both right. Bureaucracy does consume as much resources as it is allowed to. And the very rich do get their way with our laws, to benefit themselves alone:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-experts-say-us-no-longer-democracy
A new study from Princeton spells bad news for American democracy—namely, that it no longer exists.


Asking “[w]ho really rules?” researchers Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page argues that over the past few decades America’s political system has slowly transformed from a democracy into an oligarchy, where wealthy elites wield most power.

Using data drawn from over 1,800 different policy initiatives from 1981 to 2002, the two conclude that rich, well-connected individuals on the political scene now steer the direction of the country, regardless of or even against the will of the majority of voters.
4   Tenpoundbass   2018 Jan 27, 2:08pm  

Patrick says
A new study from Princeton spells bad news for American democracy—namely, that it no longer exists.


If Democracy was dead the Patriots would have dragged the Socialists out into the streets and marched them to their death.
Democracy has been hijacked by Socialist that are perverting and distorting America's laws to destroy America and make it eat itself.
There's no attempt to hide that or do it behind our backs at this point either.

I think eventually these bad actors will catch up with the returning pendulum swing and cut the shit, or get knocked down for good.
5   Patrick   2018 Jan 27, 2:14pm  

Tenpoundbass says
Democracy has been hijacked by Socialist


No, not entirely.

Our oligarchs are responsible at least as much as socialists. Check out the link, it's pretty clear about this part of it:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-experts-say-us-no-longer-democracy
Then again, a lot of these social programs may have been created by our oligarchs as a way to divide labor and prevent any meaningful opposition to their power.
6   justme   2018 Jan 27, 2:19pm  

Patrick says
Yes, this is an excellent idea. I'm actually going to start a website with one post for each of the 535 Congressmen, so we can comment on them personally and on how they voted.


That could be really good. Rhymes with my oft repeated old suggestion that patnet should be more like a wiki, where there is only ONE place to discuss a topic, instead of endless new streams of threads all with the same propaganda. The devil is in the specific implementation details.
7   Patrick   2018 Jan 27, 5:05pm  

I have almost all the implementation details down, and can spin up a new copy of patrick.net with a different domain name on a new server in a few minutes.

I will formally announce it on Friday.
9   Shaman   2018 Jan 27, 8:23pm  

Patrick says
researchers Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page argues that over the past few decades America’s political system has slowly transformed from a democracy into an oligarchy, where wealthy elites wield most power.


That’s why we elected Trump. To stick a fat orange finger into the elites’ eyes and remind them that the common people they’ve been pissing on still have some electoral power. And to blow up the system so a better one could be formed on the ashes of the corrupt kleptocracy that existed.
10   justme   2018 Jan 28, 2:04am  

Quigley says
That’s why we elected Trump. To stick a fat orange finger into the elites’ eyes and remind them that the common people they’ve been pissing on still have some electoral power.
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Too bad we ended up with a big fat orange mole for the same old oligarchs as before.

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