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Get Your Own Forum - First Month Free

By Patrick following x   2018 Jan 29, 12:40pm 4,150 views   32 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Get your own forum like this one. The first month is free, no credit card required, no risk. It will run under your own domain name, with https, with you as administrator-god. For revenue, you could place ads on it, sell swag, or ask for donations. Or maybe you just want to get your message out there and don't care about revenue.

Steps:
1. Register a domain name and tell the registrar to use ns1.digitalocean.com, ns2.digitalocean.com, and ns3.digitalocean.com as name servers. I prefer the registrar namecheap.com but any registrar will do. I am happy to help with the name server configuration.
2. Email p@patrick.net your new domain name.

I should be able to have your new forum up and running within an hour. https configuration may take a little longer.

If you like your forum and want to continue it past the first month, it will cost a flat $20 per month.

Some examples:

http://sftech.fun/
http://fixhealthcare.us/

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1   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 29, 5:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

This post seems to have drifted by the masses here since you posted earlier today. So I'll bump it.

My $0.02, $40/mo seems a bit steep for what's being offered. Not saying you don't bring the value on the back end with the actual site/forum structure, I just know I can get and/or do some cool stuff for just under $500 it costs for the year.

Sorry, I drive a hard bargain. My monthly internet is just a bit over $40/mo. I work from home using said internet. That monthly investment makes me substantially more. Basically, my forum will need to start out making me $20k/yr to even get my attention. And that's with me doing nothing as I'll be here posting and writing comments too long for people to read so they wet their pants about it.
2   anon_b26ff   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 29, 5:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Do you have an example website up of what you're talking about?
3   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 29, 5:08pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I think certain people and companies will not mind paying it, especially with such awesome tech support! :-)

anon_b26ff says
Do you have an example website up of what you're talking about?


Yes, here's one I just put up:

http://sftech.fun/
4   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 29, 5:54pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Does anyone know of a cheaper way to get a forum with:

* no technical work
* own domain name
* https

I did a cursory search and didn't find anything under $50/month.
5   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 29, 6:00pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Jesus fuck, didn't realize this was an industry.

https://www.forums.net/pricing
My cursory search reveals that $40/mo is a solid price even though I sarcastically bitched about it. Not sure the demand, but you might have a little side income opportunity here besides keeping us degenerates in line.
6   goat   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 29, 7:24pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

A long time ago I had some vbulletin forums (the premier forum software back then, probably still).

I hosted my own, but I know there were plenty of outfits offering fully managed servers setup with vbulletin forums. And they had different tiers, some allowing your own domain name, automatic backups, ssl, etc... They were pretty cheap back then...and so I'd be surprised if the price has went up in the past 15ish years.

The vbulletin license wasn't cheap (not sure about now), so I bet if you use one of the free forum software offerings, you could get the monthly price down even further.
7   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 29, 7:28pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

goat says
if you use one of the free forum software offerings, you could get the monthly price down even further.


I wrote the forum software myself. Free to me!

The main thing is to not get killed by support time/cost. That's what the $40/month is really paying for.
8   Sniper   ignore (10)   2018 Jan 30, 8:40am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (5)     quote      

@Patrick

The "Start New Thread" button is missing from my home page.

Is this a bug?
9   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 30, 8:43am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

Not a bug, I just reduced your permissions for a while because of all the personal attacks. I set it back to normal now.
10   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 30, 11:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

It’s not a bug, it’s a feature

;) #MAGA
11   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 31, 8:59am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

@Patrick something is broken again, my ‘personal’ button went missing
12   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 31, 9:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

@Patrick now my posts aren’t showing up at all. They seem to vanish into the ether after i post um
13   Goran_K   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 31, 9:21am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

errc says
@Patrick now my posts aren’t showing up at all. They seem to vanish into the ether after i post um


Probably having your post go through moderation due to personal attacks.
14   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 31, 9:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

It's possible that one of the moderators deleted a comment.

Let me look into the personal button issue.
15   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 31, 9:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

errc says
Patrick something is broken again, my ‘personal’ button went missing


@errc Try now.
16   HEYYOU   ignore (6)   2018 Jan 31, 10:02am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I won't be needing a forum.
I spread my genius thru patrick.net. ;-)
17   anon_f6ced   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 31, 3:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Goran_K says
errc says
@Patrick now my posts aren’t showing up at all. They seem to vanish into the ether after i post um


Probably having your post go through moderation due to personal attacks.


18   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 31, 4:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
It's possible that one of the moderators deleted a comment.

Not me. I'm 99% sure I haven't deleted anything in moderation. I don't have a record I can check back on, but there may have been one anon comment that was bad and I deleted, but I don't think it's more then one if any at all.

Otherwise I just approve the easy/logical non-personal attack ones. Anything borderline that I'm not sure of, I leave in moderation for others. My idea of what constitutes an insult or personal attack is rather harsh. As in I'd approve probably close to 98% of what is in moderation.

I actually approved one that I knew was a personal attack on me even though they generalized it by saying mods or something along those lines. @Patrick - that actually is a slight flaw in the moderation system. If I ignore someone, I shouldn't be able to moderate their comments. Right? Integrity is kind of lost if you ask me. I shouldn't be able to moderate people I ignore. Doesn't seem fair honestly.
19   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 31, 4:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Huh, don't know about that one. If you're ignoring them, maybe it's because they are so difficult to deal with and actually making personal attacks.
20   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 1, 6:50am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

@Patrick now my posts aren’t going through. I submit a few posts then back to the homepage, sorted by active, then I scroll down to the thread and it’s still buried saying last comment 8 hours ago.

What gives? This is the second time this has happened, yet it doesn’t seem to happen to anyone else. Am I being singled out and censored? That would be pretty fucked up
21   BlueSardine   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 1, 7:38am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Groundhogs day??
errc says
his is the second time this has happened, yet it doesn’t seem to happen to anyone else
22   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 1, 7:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
errc says
Patrick something is broken again, my ‘personal’ button went missing


@errc Try now.


Still not working @Patrick

23   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 1, 8:45am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

@errc OK, try again, this time it really really will work.

Problem was, when a moderator deletes enough of a user's comments, it also bumps down the user's permissions. I forgot I had added that.
24   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 1, 8:46am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

BTW, thanks for the screenshot! I have to say patrick.net looks OK on your phone.
25   anon_945d2   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 1, 8:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

errc says
What gives? This is the second time this has happened, yet it doesn’t seem to happen to anyone else. Am I being singled out and censored?


Goran_K says
Probably having your post go through moderation due to personal attacks.
26   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 1, 8:52am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Patrick says
@errc OK, try again, this time it really really will work.

Problem was, when a moderator deletes enough of a user's comments, it also bumps down the user's permissions. I forgot I had added that.


Yup i see the personal button is back, thanks.

Is that why my other posts keep going missing, because a mod is deleting them? Not even the specialist of snowflake could convince themselves that they’re personal attacks, unless the emotional bond with Daddy Trump is so strong that legit criticism of Trump is triggering a mod who is deleting my posts
27   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 1, 8:54am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
BTW, thanks for the screenshot! I have to say patrick.net looks OK on your phone.


Np. I prefer the mobile edition to the desktop, personally.

My only gripe is that it’s been hard to post images, although lately it’s working better.

Nice work
28   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 1, 9:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

What goes wrong when you try to post an image from mobile? Work on my iphone, but I don't have the resources to test on many other phones.
29   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 1, 10:56am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

@Patrick - I don't think the number of posts are being added correctly when you look up a user. I looked myself up and it said I only had 4 posts, which I have more than that. Screen shot included here. When I click through you can see all my posts (clicking the number 4), just doesn't appear to be adding correctly or at all on the user summary screen if that makes sense. Minor issue.

While 82% of the reason I'm here is to get likes on my comments because it keeps my ego inflated. I didn't realize I had so many dislikes. Any chance there would be a way to check them out? The dislikes. So I can let the people that hate me know I mean no ill will towards them?

I suppose it could flame up some personal attacks, so I understand the logic behind not allowing people to see who disliked a comment. I would just then ask why have it at all then? Seems like people might think X user disliked something and go after them when it could be someone else completely different.

And if you're going to keep it, but not allow people to see who dislikes it, that's fine. But you should create some sort of user score metric so we can see who the better users are. Content creation (new posts) could be one part of it. Like and dislikes another part. The user themselves liking or disliking stuff of the other users or marking something personal. I don't know the best formula for this, but would be interesting if you could come up with something that would point out the best, most quality posters/users.

This of course will cause some problems with people just clicking like or dislike to lower another users rating. You would just need to figure out the formula to balance that. For every like a user receives, they loose it if they dislike something else. Eye for an eye. Or mark something personal that gets passed by moderation and you lose 5 or 10 likes on your other stuff. All this adds up in the formula somehow to a score of 100 being the best and 0 being the worst.

I know it's ultimately a popularity contest if you're grading people in a sense this way. So there is a risk the content and discourse takes a turn because people are shooting to "look" good score wise. There could be a small chance, a very tiny chance, it might help auto-moderate the personal attacks out if people are thinking about their score.

Obviously from this thread you'd like to monetize this beast. I have no idea if this suggestion is something that helps that. I just really need my posts to be fucking accurately reflected on my user summary though.

30   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 1, 3:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

WookieMan says
Patrick - I don't think the number of posts are being added correctly when you look up a user. I looked myself up and it said I only had 4 posts, which I have more than that. Screen shot included here. When I click through you can see all my posts (clicking the number 4), just doesn't appear to be adding correctly or at all on the user summary screen if that makes sense. Minor issue.


@WookieMan you are right! I was failing to update post counts. Fixed now: https://github.com/killelea/node.patrick.net/commit/8dcb0557416cf1869efd543893490667b7bc5cdd
31   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 1, 3:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

WookieMan says
I suppose it could flame up some personal attacks, so I understand the logic behind not allowing people to see who disliked a comment. I would just then ask why have it at all then?


I really don't want to open up names on dislikes because it would ignite a lot of flame wars. But I think it does have a purpose or two. It gives comment/post authors some additional feedback (someone doesn't like it) and it gives frustrated users a way to vent without personally attacking another user. Also, I was always a bit annoyed that Facebook didn't have a "dislike" button (back when I used to use Facebook).

WookieMan says
you should create some sort of user score metric so we can see who the better users are.


That's kind of the idea behind being able to sort the user list at https://patrick.net/users You can sort by various measures. Maybe I should have a "sort by like/dislike ratio"?

WookieMan says
Obviously from this thread you'd like to monetize this beast. I have no idea if this suggestion is something that helps that.


Yes, would be nice. I'm grateful for your suggestions and your help in moderating.
32   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 1, 6:53pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says

That's kind of the idea behind being able to sort the user list at https://patrick.net/users You can sort by various measures. Maybe I should have a "sort by like/dislike ratio"?


Let me soak this up some more now that I've been thinking tonight. I have ideas but need to hash them out some more in my brain and on paper. I may email you privately with some of these ideas. And I'll say it here, if they're shitty ideas, tell me. I don't have feelings to hurt.

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