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Thoughts while listening to Trump's State of the Union address

By someone else following x   2018 Jan 30, 5:57pm 15,460 views   207 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Just a post for people to comment while it's going on, and after.

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128   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 30, 8:28pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

jvolstad says

I was thinking "Thank God Hillary lost the election." Bill would have been in a back room banging an intern, female or male.


Maybe Hillary ran for President just to get into the oval office, to take revenge on Bill, by having a male intern eat her pussy.
129   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 30, 8:29pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says
I saw Democratic response. It was just a colossal whining in comparison.


I did not even bother to watch their response. Not worth the time.
130   Tenpoundbass   ignore (13)   2018 Jan 30, 8:32pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Maybe Hillary ran for President just to get into the oval office, to take revenge on Bill, by having a male intern eat her pussy.


You mean female intern. She loves big tittie girls, yes indeed hot god all mighty!
131   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 30, 8:33pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
To be a fly on the wall in the room where she is right now.


132   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 30, 8:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says
TwoScoopsPlissken says
A small selection of heroes today.

Contrast that with the high-on-the-Maslow-Scale virtue signalers soon to engage in punditry on the news stations.


I saw Democratic response. It was just a colossal whining in comparison. That's what Democratic party has become, a party of whining SJW's.

Trump delivered a truly memorable speech about jobs, something America needs! It's pretty clear the direction we are heading in.


Yep the direction Obama set us in after The Republicans Depression



133   someone else   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 30, 8:36pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

And the NY Times, true to form, has to find negative things to say about Trump no matter what he does:

Trump Can Sell an Improved Economy, but Not Himself
By PETER BAKER 14 minutes ago

He passed tax cuts, and the economy he inherited continues to grow. But many Americans still hold dismal views of Mr. Trump.


Many Americans held still hold dismal views of Mr. Obama too, but the NY Times would absolutely never print such a statement. Why is that?
134   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 30, 8:45pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

rando says

Many Americans held still hold dismal views of Mr. Obama too, but the NY Times would absolutely never print such a statement. Why is that?


1. They forgot to check their 401K statements.
2. They think America is a "shithole" country.
3. Trump succeeds where Obama failed. Denial.
135   HEYYOU   ignore (25)   2018 Jan 30, 8:49pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

Lying,5 time draft dodging coward, admitted sexual harasser,Racist/Nazi sympathizer,pedophile advocate,Republican,Adulterer (as in :Your are going to get fucked over)?
136   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 30, 8:51pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

rando says
And the NY Times, true to form, has to find negative things to say about Trump no matter what he does:

Trump Can Sell an Improved Economy, but Not Himself
By PETER BAKER 14 minutes ago

He passed tax cuts, and the economy he inherited continues to grow. But many Americans still hold dismal views of Mr. Trump.


Many Americans held still hold dismal views of Mr. Obama too, but the NY Times would absolutely never print such a statement. Why is that?


Which part do you disagree with? Seems like they’re reporting the facts

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-2009-buying-stocks-is-a-potentially-good-deal-2015-6
137   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 30, 8:54pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says

Lying,5 time draft dodging coward, admitted sexual harasser,Racist/Nazi sympathizer,pedophile advocate,Republican,Adulterer (as in :Your are going to get fucked over)?


How?
138   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 30, 8:58pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

errc says
Which part do you disagree with? Seems like they’re reporting the facts

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-2009-buying-stocks-is-a-potentially-good-deal-2015-6


Obama gets credit for preventing a depression.
Trump gets credit for a full recovery, and the coming boom.
It's as simple as that. Lets be honest.
139   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 30, 9:00pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
rando says

Many Americans held still hold dismal views of Mr. Obama too, but the NY Times would absolutely never print such a statement. Why is that?


1. They forgot to check their 401K statements.
2. They think America is a "shithole" country.
3. Trump succeeds where Obama failed. Denial.


Where did Obama fail, but Trump succeeded?

Everything Trumpcucks are touting as success is merely a continuation of Obamas success

I wish people would stop repeating the propaganda so i can stop defending Obama with the simplest of truths. Reality shouldn’t clash with your view of the world so violently. I don’t even like Obama, I just have a nagging duty to protect the truth. Like Patrick always said, it is important to tell the truth. He also said to question those on the opposite side of the truth, what are you afraid of? The fear of proving that your hate for Obama was always only about his skin color
140   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2018 Jan 30, 9:07pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
FortWayne says
I saw Democratic response. It was just a colossal whining in comparison.


I did not even bother to watch their response. Not worth the time.


You made a right choice. I didn't switch the channel off, so it came on. It was a waste of time.
141   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 30, 9:08pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

errc says
Where did Obama fail, but Trump succeeded?

Everything Trumpcucks are touting as success is merely a continuation of Obamas success


1. Obama failed to bring the economy to full recovery and boom. Trump is succeeding here.
2. ISIS. Obama was a miserable failure here. Even the Russians did better.
3. North Korea. Obama did nothing. He could not even stop the Chinese from supporting them.
142   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 30, 9:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

Obama failed to bring the economy to full recovery and boom. Trump is succeeding here.

By what metric?

ISIS. Obama was a miserable failure here. Even the Russians did better.

By what metric?

North Korea. Obama did nothing. He could not even stop the Chinese from supporting them.

By what metric?
143   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 30, 9:25pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
errc says
Which part do you disagree with? Seems like they’re reporting the facts

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-2009-buying-stocks-is-a-potentially-good-deal-2015-6


Obama gets credit for preventing a depression.
Trump gets credit for a full recovery, and the coming boom.
It's as simple as that. Lets be honest.


Well if we’re being honest here, it looks like The S&P tripled under Obama. It looks like it’s up about 27% under Trump.

Outside of emotional feelZ by the Trumpcucks, i dont see a break in the trend line, nor any action by Trump that warrants crediting Trump with Obamas economy.

What are you seeing
144   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2018 Jan 30, 9:29pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

errc says


Why did ya cut that chart off at 2015??

errc says
I wish people would stop repeating the propaganda so i can stop defending Obama with the simplest of truths. Reality shouldn’t clash with your view of the world so violently.


If truth and reality is so important, how about overlaying what REALLY made that market rise under Obama:



Without multiple rounds of QE injected, that market would have flatlined. Obama had NOTHING to do with the rise.

Proof, here is the DOW chart for Obama's last two years, after QE was shut off:



This is Obama's recovery WITHOUT help from the FED, was that so wonderful?

errc says
I just have a nagging duty to protect the truth.


This is how the truth is reported, with facts.

errc says
Obama failed to bring the economy to full recovery and boom. Trump is succeeding here.

By what metric?


If you're comparing markets, by this:



That's called a recovery.

errc says
Obama was a miserable failure here.


Yep, we're glad that is finally cleared up!
145   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 30, 9:32pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

errc says
Obama failed to bring the economy to full recovery and boom. Trump is succeeding here.

By what metric?

GDP. It was stagnant under Obama. Starting to move up under Trump.

errc says
ISIS. Obama was a miserable failure here. Even the Russians did better.

By what metric?

Rise and fall. ISIS rose under Obama. Pretty much destroyed under Trump.

errc says
North Korea. Obama did nothing. He could not even stop the Chinese from supporting them.

By what metric?

China.
China kept the North Koreans alive under Obama. They cut off the life line to NK under Trump.
146   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2018 Jan 30, 9:33pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Sniper says


Not to mention, the Trump market just for this January is up almost 1500 points, where it barely grew 700 points the whole last two years of Obama.

That's called a recovery.
147   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 30, 9:43pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

errc says
Obama gets credit for preventing a depression.
Trump gets credit for a full recovery, and the coming boom.
It's as simple as that. Lets be honest.


Well if we’re being honest here, it looks like The S&P tripled under Obama. It looks like it’s up about 27% under Trump.

Look at your own chart again. Where was the S&P when Obama became President? You are not being honest by calculating the gains from the lows during Obama's term.

errc says
Outside of emotional feelZ by the Trumpcucks, i dont see a break in the trend line, nor any action by Trump that warrants crediting Trump with Obamas economy.

What are you seeing

I'm seeing a chart posted by you that does not even show the last 3 years, least of all the huge jump in stocks since Trump was elected. Why so dishonest?
If you have to be dishonest, it tells me you know perfectly well of Obamas failures, yet refuse to acknowledge them.
Shame on you.
148   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 30, 9:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

Sniper says
errc says


Why did ya cut that chart off at 2015??

errc says
I wish people would stop repeating the propaganda so i can stop defending Obama with the simplest of truths. Reality shouldn’t clash with your view of the world so violently.


If truth and reality is so important, how about overlaying what REALLY made that market rise under Obama:



Without multiple rounds of QE injected, that market would have flatlined. Obama had NOTHING to do with the rise.

Proof, here is the DOW chart for Obama's last two years, after QE was shut off:

...


Thanks for proving my point. Draw a line on your chart from jan 20th 09 to jan 20th 17, obamas presidency. The trend is in tact. Looks like it got ahead of itself a little bit mid 15- mid 16, consolidated, and then resumed the trend mid 2016, long before Trump took office. So you agree with me, I’m correct.
149   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 30, 10:09pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

errc says
Strategist says
errc says
Obama gets credit for preventing a depression.
Trump gets credit for a full recovery, and the coming boom.
It's as simple as that. Lets be honest.


Well if we’re being honest here, it looks like The S&P tripled under Obama. It looks like it’s up about 27% under Trump.

Look at your own chart again. Where was the S&P when Obama became President? You are not being honest by calculating the gains from the lows during Obama's term.

errc says
Outside of emotional feelZ by the Trumpcucks, i dont see a break in the trend line, nor any action by Trump that warrants crediting Trump with Obamas economy.

What are you seeing

I'm seeing a chart posted by you that does not ev...


So you show a chart until June 2015, from which you claim Trump did an inferior job compared to Obama, even though Trump became President in 2017.
ROFL. Based on your chart, Trump may not have even been born.
Gosh Errc, if you want to be deceptive, please show something that is not so easy to piss on.
150   willywonka   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 3:36am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Obama stretched the facts in his final SOTU on jobs, deficits, health care, military spending and carbon emissions.

Summary
President Barack Obama’s final State of the Union address came up short of the facts on several topics:

He embellished his record on jobs, citing “more than 14 million new jobs,” without mentioning that’s only private sector jobs and only since the job losses hit bottom in February 2010.

Obama similarly omitted part of his presidency in boasting of nearly 900,000 manufacturing jobs “in the past six years.” Over his entire time in office, manufacturing jobs have gone down by 230,000.

And he said he had cut the country’s deficits by “almost three-quarters.” But that’s measured from fiscal 2009, which included some increased spending by Obama.

He repeated his now years-long claim of crediting the Affordable Care Act for a slowdown in health care spending, which economists have linked mainly to the economy. In fact, the growth rate jumped in 2014, when the law’s coverage provisions were implemented.

Obama claimed, like he did in 2014, that the U.S. has “cut carbon pollution more than any other country on Earth.” That’s true in terms of total tonnage but not in terms of percentage reductions.

He said that the U.S. spends “more on our military than the next eight nations combined.” That’s close enough in terms of dollars, but as a share of the nation’s economy, the U.S. is only the fourth highest of the top 15 countries.

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/01/factchecking-the-state-of-the-union/
151   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 31, 4:33am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
If someone gets shot, and the response is "He’s a Piece of Shit", that sounds very much like a justification for the shooting.

How long does one have to wait after someone gets shot before they can call the poor bastard a piece of shit? I mean, can Scalise skate through the rest of his life without fear of criticism? You seem hyper defensive, here.
152   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 31, 4:42am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (4)   quote   flag        

The economy hasn't changed much since Trump took over. It's basically continued Obama growth. The reason that Trump doesn't get democrats applauding low unemployment (even among the blacks), is because the long ass trend in lowering unemployment has been ongoing for 8 yrs. Trump is just trying to take credit for Obama's success, and everybody left of the aisle knows it.

The stock market has raged due to optimism over getting a tax cut, which makes stocks more valuable. It's likely due for a bit of a correction.

Trump gets props for not breaking shit yet. I'm actually quite impressed by that.
154   willywonka   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 5:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

The crowd roars their approval! Hail Ceasar! Let the gladiator games begin!

155   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Jan 31, 5:18am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
It's basically continued Obama growth.


The market has shown a complete change in environment from the Obama admin. Trumps exec orders and leadership are the difference.

Only the most brainwashed partisans left of the isle give credit to Obama for this.
156   Tenpoundbass   ignore (13)   2018 Jan 31, 5:25am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Only the most brainwashed partisans left of the isle give credit to Obama for this.


NPR last week was on this...
"So who owns the economy when a President takes office?"
Kick.

They swore up and down that Obama inherited the bad part of his economy, but credited him for every green shoot that happened in spite of his policies to stop them.

Trump is performing as expected. I said all through Obama's administration that Presidents own the economy the minute they take office.
Obama spent his first 6 years blaming Bush for everything. He stopped bashing him the last two, because he needed to play nice with Bush to save his legacy.
So they paraded him around like he was a great President that still endorses the Obama house.

When Trump ran I swore up and down, I would blame Trump for every peak and valley and not Obama or Bush.
157   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 31, 6:51am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Rise and fall. ISIS rose under Obama. Pretty much destroyed under Trump.

Do you want to take a stab at explaining the policy changes that brought that about?
158   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 31, 6:51am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says


Among speech watchers!
159   BayArea   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 31, 6:55am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

errc says
Strategist says
errc says
Which part do you disagree with? Seems like they’re reporting the facts

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-2009-buying-stocks-is-a-potentially-good-deal-2015-6


Obama gets credit for preventing a depression.
Trump gets credit for a full recovery, and the coming boom.
It's as simple as that. Lets be honest.


Well if we’re being honest here, it looks like The S&P tripled under Obama. It looks like it’s up about 27% under Trump.

Outside of emotional feelZ by the Trumpcucks, i dont see a break in the trend line, nor any action by Trump that warrants credi...


Honest? Looks to me like a disingenuous reference point.
160   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 31, 7:41am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
The market has shown a complete change in environment from the Obama admin.

Are you referring to the stock market? If you read my comment, you will see that I stated that the stock market has raged, and gave a reason for that. Are you saying that you do not differentiate between the stock market and the economy (GDP/jobs/etc.)?
163   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2018 Jan 31, 8:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

anon_58b0b says
Among speech watchers!


Wait, the homeless in SF, living on the streets, weren't allowed to vote in that poll?

So sad.
166   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 8:07am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Democratic platform has been reduced to hating Trump and pandering to illegal aliens.PATHETIC!
169   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 31, 8:10am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
Are you saying that you do not differentiate between the stock market and the economy (GDP/jobs/etc.)?


All of those are up BIGLY the past year.

Why do you hate success?
170   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 31, 8:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

BayArea says
errc says
Strategist says
errc says
Which part do you disagree with? Seems like they’re reporting the facts

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-2009-buying-stocks-is-a-potentially-good-deal-2015-6


Obama gets credit for preventing a depression.
Trump gets credit for a full recovery, and the coming boom.
It's as simple as that. Lets be honest.


Well if we’re being honest here, it looks like The S&P tripled under Obama. It looks like it’s up about 27% under Trump.

Outside of emotional feelZ by the Trumpcucks, ...


What is disingenuous about showing where the stock market was when Obama took office and how it performed under his presidency?

Do you define disingenuous as meaning you don’t like the reality that is showed in the image?

In my book, disingenuous is claiming Obama failed where Trump succeeded. I’ve been banging this drum throughout Trumps presidency. Show any graph of the metric Trump is claiming as his own win, and it’s the exact same trend line. You can hardly tell that the presidency changed hands.

This is getting tiring, i can’t tell if you guys are being honest or not
171   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 8:12am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

Not a knock out punch, but a good right cross on the chin of the DNC.

GOP voters are revitalized, and independents are seeing just how effective Trump has been for the country, and the nation is seeing Democrat senators not applauding record low black and latino unemployment.

The midterms will be interesting for sure.
172   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2018 Jan 31, 8:19am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

errc says
Show any graph of the metric Trump is claiming as his own win, and it’s the exact same trend line. You can hardly tell that the presidency changed hands.


Wow, just wow. OK, once again.

The last TWO years of Obama (after the QE flow was turned off)

Sniper says


Now compare that to the trend line of Trump's ONE year (WITHOUT any QE)

Sniper says


If those two trend line look the same, well, ....

errc says
This is getting tiring, i can’t tell if you guys are being honest or not


True, we know who's not being honest in this thread.

Why ignore the FACT that without the $4.5 TRILLION of QE injected into the market during Obama, there would have been low growth?
173   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 8:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

anonymous says
Why gosh darn it - you mean Harley closing one of their plants is a good thing ?

Same with Ford Motor Company having it's credit rating lowered and it's bonds rated as just above junk status ?

Anyone bothered to look at the job cuts website recently ?


Can't have it both ways.

Leftist/Democrats: The roaring economy is still Obama's economy.

Also Leftist/Democrats: Trumps fault for some companies cutting jobs.
174   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2018 Jan 31, 8:35am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

anonymous says
Anyone bothered to look at the job cuts website recently ?


Sure, go here, it might help!!

http://www.dailyjobfix.com/
175   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 8:35am   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

I don't play race politics, that's all. I think Democrats playing race politics show just how weak their platform is.

176   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 31, 8:36am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Sniper says
errc says
Show any graph of the metric Trump is claiming as his own win, and it’s the exact same trend line. You can hardly tell that the presidency changed hands.


Wow, just wow. OK, once again.

The last TWO years of Obama (after the QE flow was turned off)

Sniper says


Now compare that to the trend line of Trump's ONE year (WITHOUT any QE)

Sniper says


If those two trend line look the same, well, ....

errc says
This is getting tiring, i can’t tell if you guys are being honest ...


Why would you compare the last two years of Obamas presidency to the first one of Trumps. Do an apples to apples comparison then.

Either show the trend line from jan 20 2009 to present (you won’t because it blows your narrative to shreds) or post Obamas first year 1/20/09 to Trumps first year 1/20/17. Your attempt to cherry pick further proves my point
177   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 8:38am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

errc says
Why would you compare the last two years of Obamas presidency to the first one of Trumps. Do an apples to apples comparison then.


It's a fair comparison. QE was vastly reduced during those stagnant years of BO's economy.
178   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 31, 8:40am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
I don't play race politics, that's all. I think Democrats playing race politics show just how weak their platform is.



I thought the intellectually lazy just gobble up whatever the Repubs say as gospel. Like Trump is somehow responsible for record low black unemployment. What did he do? What was the trendline he inherited

Obviously the racists are the people discrediting Obama while bliwing Trump. It’s very easy to see if you’re paying attention to reality.

And I’m getting tired of defending Obama after ripping him for eight years, but it’s important to be honest and factual
179   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2018 Jan 31, 8:41am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

errc says
Why would you compare the last two years of Obamas presidency to the first one of Trumps.


Someone was saying that Trump was following Obama's trend line. That's statement was factually wrong, the charts prove it.

errc says
or post Obamas first year 1/20/09 to Trumps first year 1/20/17. Your attempt to cherry pick further proves my point


Did the market go up 5000+ points in Obama's first year?

What about this?

Sniper says
Why ignore the FACT that without the $4.5 TRILLION of QE injected into the market during Obama,


errc says

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Is printing $4.5 Trillion (the RED line) to boost the market just lunch money?
180   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 8:45am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag        

errc says
What did he do?


Massive deregulation, tax reform, basically creating an environment that grows the pie instead of treating it as a zero sum game. You know, the way a REAL economy actually works.
181   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 9:52am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
I don't play race politics, that's all. I think Democrats playing race politics show just how weak their platform is.



It's really sad. That speech was fairly centrist, but you can't get any decent discussion going. Mentioned on facetwat that the Dems need the (poorer) common working citizens to win and it went right to "oh those rays cyst people, it's rays cyst to assume we need them". Yawn.
182   Tenpoundbass   ignore (13)   2018 Jan 31, 10:05am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

mell says
It's really sad. That speech was fairly centrist, but you can't get any decent discussion going. Mentioned on facetwat that the Dems need the (poorer) common working citizens to win and it went right to "oh those rays cyst people, it's rays cyst to assume we need them". Yawn.


Lazy leaches will be lazy leaches, they damn sure don't want Trump fucking up their shit.
Go to City Hall, the DMV your local Schools KG - 12, pretty much every administrative building. Tell me what you see? They had shiftless lazyness sewn up.
They got the job based on Pantone chart shades alone. They are great at making your Civil Administrative experience as shitty and a hastle as ever. From the minute you park in the parking garages until the minute you leave.

Ever see a door you're not supposed to enter through, and a Black Civil servant instructing people not to use it?

How do those Motherfuckers do it? That's right from a hide across the street, 10's of yards from the erroneous Entrance so they can purp bark directions to you.
"USE THE OTHER DOOR! THAT ONE IS CLOSED, YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT WHY THERE'S NOT A SIGN ON DOOR!"

another favorite.
"SIR YOU NEED TO REMOVE YOUR BELT AND PUT IT IN THE BASKET" pushes you aside while you're actually taking it off so you almost lose your balance, points to a huddle of people being needlessly hassled by Obama's son.
"Do it OVER THER!" Me "HEY! You need to chill you work for me and my home owner taxes, less you forget that!"
Try that you should see how they act then, they shut the fuck up because they know they are tripping on themselves.

Just miserable cockbites. The bastards could put a sign on the door and call it a day. No they just lock it, even though it says "Main Entrance" So they can bark out orders to you to walk around to the construction entrance on the side.
And if I tell you I have never EVER been able to tell why those doors are locked in the first place other than to give Obama son a chance to flex their authority on the public about something so painfully obvious like a fucking LOCKED DOOR!

Thanks Obama you sure did good!

183   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 10:10am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

anonymous says
that could never be because minorities are lazy and just feed off the government teat not to mention incompetent.


Engaging in hyperbole can sometimes be funny. This isn't one of those times.

Also, not sure why you're asking me about "right wing view". Have never voted for a GOP presidential candidate. But after seeing what the left wing tried to do to this country before Trump, I simply see which side is the most dangerous to this republic, and it's undoubtedly the left wing at this point in time.
184   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 10:12am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

@anonymous the above comment by Goran should not have been marked personal.

The mere use of "you" is not necessarily an attack on you personally.
185   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 10:15am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Sure, if they're insulting you deliberately or talking about your personal motives or qualities, that would be personal.
186   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 10:33am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anonymous says
Don't need safety and environmental protections


Well of course we need safety and environmental protections, but unfortunately the way these laws usually get made is this:

* Big company realizes that the cost of complying with various regulations is a problem for smaller competitors.
* Big company gets super-virtuous in public about "saving the environment" with new regulations which may or may not actually be effective at saving the environment.
* Small company cannot pay the cost of complying with the regulations and still stay in business.
* Small company dies.
* Big company raises prices because there is less competition. CEO puts feet up on desk and smokes cigar, chuckling to self.

So mere "environmental regulation" by itself is not necessarily a good thing. It has to actually protect the environment in some significant way, without just being an anti-competitive move.
188   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 10:48am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
anonymous says
Don't need safety and environmental protections


Well of course we need safety and environmental protections, but unfortunately the way these laws usually get made is this:

* Big company realizes that the cost of complying with various regulations is a problem for smaller competitors.
* Big company gets super-virtuous in public about "saving the environment" with new regulations which may or may not actually be effective at saving the environment.
* Small company cannot pay the cost of complying with the regulations and still stay in business.
* Small company dies.
* Big company raises prices because there is less competition. CEO puts feet up on desk and smokes cigar, chuckling to self.

So mere "environmental regulation" by itself is not necessarily a good thing. It has to actually protect the environment in some significant way, without ju...


Same with the war on coal. Clean coal today is pretty clean. Many say it's a dying sector anyways, fine, so let it die, but in the market place. If it were so much more expensive than other forms of energy then it should be a quick end and transition to other sources. Why punish those people working those jobs like Obummer did before they can find a different job? I have a hunch that clean coal will be around for a while because its uncompetitiveness has been greatly exaggerated. If it only takes 10% of the total mix, so be it. Just don't skew the market with government "regulations".
189   RC2006   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 31, 10:53am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Was talking to Coworker that immigrated to US 15yrs ago about the speech. He said he has been a democrat since he could vote but is disgusted by them and asked me how to change parties. It pisses him off that he had to come here legally and the dems are always siding with illegals.
192   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Jan 31, 11:44am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anonymous says
Anyway the other day the owner of the largest East Coast oil-refining complex is filing for bankruptcy and blaming an Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) biofuel mandate.


This is actually an excellent example of Patrick's statement above. Biofuels are in most cases less environmentally friendly than oil-derived gasoline. They are pushed by big Agro, which, it turns out, not only gobbles up taxpayers' money, but also increases CO2 emissions. True capitalism, where small investment in legislature gives oversized returns.

Once estimates from the literature for process emissions and displacement effects including land-use change are considered, the conclusion is that U.S. biofuel use to date is associated with a net increase rather than a net decrease in CO2 emissions.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10584-016-1764-4
drBu
197   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 31, 4:13pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

Wow, Huffington Post poll, in 2016, that would have been stilted the otherway.

A lot of people, young people btw, have been red pilled.

2018 midterms will be very interesting to see.
199   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Jan 31, 7:16pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

anon_e9ed4 says
This is actually an excellent example of Patrick's statement above. Biofuels are in most cases less environmentally friendly than oil-derived gasoline. They are pushed by big Agro, which, it turns out, not only gobbles up taxpayers' money, but also increases CO2 emissions. True capitalism, where small investment in legislature gives oversized returns.


Absolutely correct, when one considers the petroleum involved in transporting/developing fertilizer and moving heavy feedstock to ethanol plants.
201   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 2, 5:12am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Anyway...Trump to Again Propose Eliminating Chemical Safety Board, Official Says


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Trump is doing a good job so far. Pissing off the piss ant liberals and putting crooked Hillary in jail. #MAGA googoo gaga

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