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If you submit a tip to the FBI, Google knows about it

By Patrick following x   2018 Feb 2, 9:27am 185 views   7 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


The FBI has an apparently helpful form for reporting tips, here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/

Unfortunately, that form uses a "Recaptcha" from Google, which you can easily verify by doing a "view source" on the tips.fbi.gov page and seeing this:

src="https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api/challenge?k=6LfDkLwSAAAAAD4IfxM2UpXo_jrotbWHVPWLwZVN&hl=en"


So Google knows the IP address and browser fingerprint of everyone who submits a tip to the FBI. Google can correlate this information with everything else they collect about you and then know exactly who you are, where you live, what you search for, and probably your exact location at all times (especially if you have an Android phone).

This is extremely bad for the privacy of people submitting tips to the FBI.

Please tell reporters about this. I'm sure many other government agency are also unwittingly feeding your identity to Google, along with exactly what you are doing online.
1   Sniper   ignore (10)   2018 Feb 2, 9:32am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Patrick says
So Google knows


I thought Google knows every time you touch your keyboard or touch screen?

Patrick says
This is extremely bad for the privacy of people


Very true!
2   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 2, 9:35am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

One way to get a bit of privacy is to add these lines to the /etc/hosts file on your Mac or Linux computer (probably there is some similar file on Windows):


## CUSTOM BLOCKING
127.0.0.1 google.com
127.0.0.1 www.google.com 127.0.0.1 ssl.google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 www.google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1 maps.google.com
127.0.0.1 images.google.com
127.0.0.1 facebook.com
127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 staticxx.facebook.com


What that does is direct all use of those Google and Facebook domains to 127.0.0.1, which is simply your own computer, aka "localhost".

You'll quickly discover just how many government sites are sending your info to Google and Facebook by finding that they don't work with those /etc/hosts settings.
3   anon_3e01a   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 2, 1:34pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

You think that's bad, I can't log into patrick.net from my job, as google would find out where I work. I used a gmail account when you implemented the new login system as I didn't realize I'd have to authenticate all the hosts that I use to access this forum.
4   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 2, 1:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

You can just comment anonymously, like you did just now. No account required.

I don't use Google Recaptchas, or any Google software, but YouTube videos embedded in posts or comments do come from Google because they own YouTube.
5   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 2, 1:58pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Please upvote this very story on HackerNews: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16294534
6   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 2, 2:01pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
Please upvote this very story on HackerNews: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16294534


Not sure if it's something on my end. Site loads, but no content or story.
7   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 2, 2:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Hmmm, interesting. I can see it when logged it to hackernews, but not in incognito mode. Not even when I search for it:

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=fbi&sort=byDate&prefix=false&page=0&dateRange=last24h&type=story

Maybe it has to pass some censor first?

Also please upvote this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/government/comments/7uv0ry/if_you_submit_a_tip_to_the_fbi_google_knows_about/

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