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The NFL is as popular as ever

By anonymous following x   2018 Feb 4, 8:11am 3,003 views   41 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


The notion that traditional metrics of viewership are in decline means the NFL is dying is a farce. Over 100 million Americans will tune in to watch the World Championship today. Cord cutters and younger, high flying productive millennials are just making NFL consumption more efficient, fun, and interactive. If the ISIS branch of the US gov(Republicans) ever cedes their religious war against freedom, we will see an explosion in NFL popularity as methods of gambling on the sport expand further.

The whole “ratings are down” bullshit is just another lie, pushed by those too trapped by politics to see the world for what it is. Cord Cutters and Redzoners alike, are on average, saving themselves over 38 hours of commercials consumption by viewing the games via non traditional means

https://www.si.com/mmqb/2016/10/27/nfl-ratings-decline-football-fans-explain-viewership


Take all the political stuff out and it feels like there are more long-lasting reasons at play. The 18-34 demographic is just completely disappearing from TV.”

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/28/tv-ratings-cord-cutters-anthem-protests-redzone-streaming

RedZone operates as a commercial-free service; as such, whenever a game taking primary focus goes to a broadcaster-designated commercial break or other stoppage (such as timeout, instant replay challenge or an injury timeout), the feed will immediately switch to the next most-interesting game in-progress at the moment. Despite the network's commercial-free commitment, commercials are not completely avoided as sometimes the network coverage may take a break faster than expected, causing the first second or two of a commercial to air, before RedZone quickly cuts to another game; this is sometimes accompanied by a snarky comment from Scott Hanson. Additionally, broadcast network promotions of their programming (most notably CBS and Fox promoting their Sunday night primetime lineups) will be shown as a natural part of the coverage.

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2   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Feb 4, 8:21am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

You can't go by that, you have to wait for the Chapter 11 filings.
3   HEYYOU   ignore (23)   2018 Feb 4, 10:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Children play games,watched by children.
But it's a good way to escape reality for a while. To bad it's not permanent.
Spending money on sports is the only path to wealth.
4   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 4, 4:33pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

I’m not watching The game.
5   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 4, 5:13pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Don’t even know who’s playing
6   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 4, 10:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

errc says
The notion that traditional metrics of viewership are in decline means the NFL is dying is a farce.

The best people celebrate other Americans who stand up (or take a knee) for their political cause.

This is communication in a free society.

This is evidence that the forces of oppression have not reached absolute effectiveness and can still be overturned by the majority.

The majority now are more politically active than ever and the representation are more concerned about the electorate than ever too.

Verifiable facts regardless of who I am, what site I read it, what I believe in.

Maybe I will post a link so you can criticize the source and speculate about the possibility that my character does not meet your standard, or Hillary, or Obama's, or all the usual dismissals.
7   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 5, 6:50am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I watched the kitten bowl. New kitten loved it.
8   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 5, 7:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I watched. I don't care if you didn't watch and I know you don't care if I did watch. Outside of SB ratings, there's a big reason why overall ratings may be down. The two largest markets with 3 teams (Bears, Giants, Jets) all sucked. If you're including regions you're talking close to 30 Million people in those areas (probably more).

Let's put it this way. If the Bears suck and fans don't watch that game that week, it's like all Jacksonville fans didn't watch their game at all (all of them). And we're only talking maybe 30% of Bears fans not watching vs the entire Jacksonville fan base.
10   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 5, 7:54am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

errc says
The whole “ratings are down” bullshit is just another lie, pushed by those too trapped by politics to see the world for what it is.


Oops. Apparently S.I. lies.

NFL TV Ratings Down Roughly 10% From Last Season

Overall NFL ratings for this season dropped by 9.7% compared to last season, according to data released by Nielsen on Thursday. This represents and even bigger slide than the 8% dip in ratings from 2015 to 2016.

Virtually every noteworthy NFL game program saw its viewership decline. NBC's Sunday Night Football dropped from 20.323 million to 18.175 million, ESPN's Monday Night Football from 11.390 million to 10.757 million and Thursday Night Football (which aired on NFL Network as well as CBS or FOX) from 12.438 million to 10.937 million.

https://www.si.com/tech-media/2018/01/04/nfl-tv-ratings-decline-ten-percent-colin-kaepernick-thursday-night-football
11   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 5, 7:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anon_b3c7a says
errc says
The whole “ratings are down” bullshit is just another lie, pushed by those too trapped by politics to see the world for what it is.


Oops. Apparently S.I. lies.

NFL TV Ratings Down Roughly 10% From Last Season

Overall NFL ratings for this season dropped by 9.7% compared to last season, according to data released by Nielsen on Thursday. This represents and even bigger slide than the 8% dip in ratings from 2015 to 2016.

Virtually every noteworthy NFL game program saw its viewership decline. NBC's Sunday Night Football dropped from 20.323 million to 18.175 million, ESPN's Monday Night Football from 11.390 million to 10.757 million and Thursday Night Football (which aired on NFL Network as well as CBS or FOX) from 12.438 million to 10.937 million.

https://www.si.co...


#FakeNews lmao
12   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 5, 8:08am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

9.7% following an 8% dip, and that's compounded. Very Sad! The NFL had better bend the knee to Americans.
13   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 5, 8:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anon_b3c7a says
errc says
The whole “ratings are down” bullshit is just another lie, pushed by those too trapped by politics to see the world for what it is.


Oops. Apparently S.I. lies.

NFL TV Ratings Down Roughly 10% From Last Season

Overall NFL ratings for this season dropped by 9.7% compared to last season, according to data released by Nielsen on Thursday. This represents and even bigger slide than the 8% dip in ratings from 2015 to 2016.

Virtually every noteworthy NFL game program saw its viewership decline. NBC's Sunday Night Football dropped from 20.323 million to 18.175 million, ESPN's Monday Night Football from 11.390 million to 10.757 million and Thursday Night Football (which aired on NFL Network as well as CBS or FOX) from 12.438 million to 10.937 million.




You do realize the article mentions exactly what errc was saying, right?

"There's also the unavoidable fact that television ratings are down across the board as young generations continue to gravitate toward cord-cutting. Less cable subscriptions means less viewership, generally."

Factor that in with the 2 largest markets (3 teams) being shitty this year. Don't remember the Jets or Giants last year (2016), but the Bears sucked as the the 2nd largest football market. So that could be a considerable amount of the ratings decline.

Anyone that didn't watch the SB or a football this year because of Kaepernic (sp?) wasn't into football anyway. It's maybe something like 1% that said they wouldn't tune in because of that. I'll keep the theme going with my threads, stop living in the fringes, the edges, the decimal of a percentage.

I personally think the kneeling thing is stupid. Quite honestly go move somewhere else if you don't like living in what is probably the best place in the world to live. But if he felt it was going to make this place better, fine. I ignored it. But I like hearing ideas. If we stop listening to ideas then we're doomed.
14   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 5, 8:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

@Patrick - Not sure what's up. The quote feature on my last comment is acting funky. I've tried to edit it a bunch of times, but it keeps adding the (blockquote) tag on it's own (used different symbols instead of < > so it's didn't translate my comment differently) at the end of the comment. I didn't do anything differently then I usually would.

Looks like you're online, so you may be tweaking something and you've made me your first victim.
15   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 5, 8:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hi @WookieMan I move the last blockquote end tag up above to where your comment starts, and now it looks ok to me.
16   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 5, 8:32am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
9.7% following an 8% dip, and that's compounded. Very Sad! The NFL had better bend the knee to Americans.


Anyone who would potentially watch football, but claims they won’t because of players protesting, aren’t really Americans anyways. They hate America
18   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 5, 9:10am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

So does this mean that the stock market will close higher for the year?

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/superbowlindicator.asp
19   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 5, 9:21am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Eagles fan eats HORSE EXCREMENT as Super Bowl celebrations descend into chaos in Philadelphia

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5352643/Disgusting-moment-Eagles-fan-eats-HORSE-EXCREMENT.html
20   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 5, 9:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

zzyzzx says
Eagles fan eats HORSE EXCREMENT as Super Bowl celebrations descend into chaos in Philadelphia

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5352643/Disgusting-moment-Eagles-fan-eats-HORSE-EXCREMENT.html


What’s the deal with that?

Is it a kink or something I’ve never heard of?
The newest tide pod type challenge?

If it was a bet he got terrible odds, could have just bet the Eagles and won a butt load of money like we did.
21   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 5, 10:26am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

errc says
The whole “ratings are down” bullshit is just another lie, pushed by those too trapped by politics to see the world for what it is.


Super Bowl Ratings Slip To 8-Year Low

However, for the NFL and broadcasters pummeled with double-digit ratings drops this season, the number that really matters right now is the 47.4/70 in metered market ratings that yesterday’s Super Bowl delivered.

All in all, Super Bowl LII is currently the lowest rated since Super Bowl XLIV in 2010, when the New Orleans Saints thrashed the Indianapolis Colts on CBS.

http://deadline.com/2018/02/super-bowl-ratings-eagles-patriots-this-is-us-nbc-1202278181/
22   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 5, 11:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

How do traditional ratings metrics account for how modern day Americans consume their football?

I don’t know of even one person who used to watch NFL, but doesn’t anymore. I may be one of those who have dropped from the roles, because I mostly only watch games on RedZone network.

This was by far my most profitable season ever, so hopefully NFL is here to stay
23   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 5, 11:03am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

So wonderful. The NFL is fake sports.

They literally do almost nothing for troops/vets that isn't paid by the Pentagon. But they kowtow to anti-American extremist viewpoints.
24   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 5, 11:07am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

They literally do almost nothing for troops/vets

Sounds like Republicans, so why the inconsistencies?
25   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 5, 11:10am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

errc says
could have just bet the Eagles and won a butt load of money like we did.


How much did you win?
26   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 5, 11:11am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

zzyzzx says
errc says
could have just bet the Eagles and won a butt load of money like we did.


How much did you win?


~5500
27   HappyGilmore   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 5, 12:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
They literally do almost nothing for troops/vets that isn't paid by the Pentagon. But they kowtow to anti-American extremist viewpoints.


When did the right to free speech and free expression become an extremist view? I thought that was one of the tenets of the United States--one of the foundations it was built upon.
29   Booger   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 5, 2:03pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Justin Timberlake Should Have Whipped Out His Dick During the Super Bowl Halftime Show So Twitter Can 'Worship' His Bravery in 14 Years.
30   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 5, 3:04pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
Children play games,watched by children.
But it's a good way to escape reality for a while. To bad it's not permanent.
Spending money on sports is the only path to wealth.


I do not see the point of watching sweaty millionaires chase a ball for hours. Furthermore, sports' owners are probably the worst welfare queens of today. Poor people getting welfare have nothing on them:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/brookings-now/2016/09/09/top-10-biggest-federal-subsidies-for-pro-stadiums-hint-the-yankees-are-1/
If someone spends money on sports, they are supporting welfare queens/corporate welfare/Kaepernic (sp?) antiques etc. Seems that Left and Right should unite in boycotting sports.

drBu
31   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 5, 3:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

As popular as ever you say? this was on the front page of the news today (for some reason).

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22336786/viewership-super-bowl-lii-patriots-eagles-down
32   Booger   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 5, 6:46pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I'm sure that someone here will appreciate this:
33   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 5, 7:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

As much as I hate errc, and I really do with a passion 😉, there’s really not much of a dispute on this. They haven’t changed the way they measure ratings (in a substantial way), plain and simple. They don’t account for any streaming or red zone viewers as errc points out. Combine that with the largest markets having shitty teams and of course the rating are down. I’m actually surprised they’re not lower.

For every person that stops watching football because of politics, you have to also remember someone will take their place almost certainly. I think younger people are less interested in football, but I think politicizing the ratings is kind of silly.

And if you want to point to SB ratings, I get it. I think a lot of people have Patriots fatigue though. A 10% SB rating drop wouldn’t have been surprising. I’d gues the NFL is just fine with the SB ratings that I’ve seen articles on even though they were lower.

All this jibberish aside. Did anyone dig the Justin Timberlake halftime show? Generally okay with pop, I thought it was pretty bad. Can’t pinpoint the issues, it was just not good. That seems to be the popular vibe on the show, but would love to hear from someone that liked it and why.
34   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 7, 6:20am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

From a company that makes it is business to know about ratings:

http://www.multichannel.com/news/sports/ubs-survey-anthem-protests-top-reasons-nfl-ratings-declines/417971
With the season officially over, UBS Securities conducted a survey of 2,000 consumers to determine the cause of declining ratings for NFL football and came up with a conclusion that is sure to cause some heated debate: player protests of the National Anthem.

About 50% of respondents to a UBS online survey conducted in November said they don’t watch football because of the protests, up from a little more than 30% in 2016. According to UBS, 29% of those surveyed said they didn’t watch games because they weren’t as interested in the sport (compared with about 35% in 2016), while about 23% said they avoided games because they were not comfortable with players’ off-field behavior.
35   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 7, 7:06am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I'm actually curious to see what the CTE research will do to viewership long term. Youth participation is down for this reason and it stands to reason that viewership:interest will suffer accordingly
36   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 7, 9:01am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anon_bbe75 says
I'm actually curious to see what the CTE research will do to viewership long term. Youth participation is down for this reason and it stands to reason that viewership:interest will suffer accordingly


This is probably the bigger issue for the NFL. While there are some stunning highlight plays each and every week, I feel like the overall actual quality of the game is down. Throw in a smaller talent pool in 10 years with the CTE stuff and the longer term future (20 years out) might have some issues. For now, it's fine if you ask me. I don't think CTE has reared it's ugly head in the pro ranks or even college ranks yet (regarding participation - obviously there are current players who will no doubt have CTE).

HeadSet says
With the season officially over, UBS Securities conducted a survey of 2,000 consumers to determine the cause of declining ratings for NFL football and came up with a conclusion that is sure to cause some heated debate: player protests of the National Anthem.


I won't dispute the data. It's probably accurate. The issue is that this article is referencing a survey. Which again, they're probably displaying the results accurately. Unfortunately saying one thing and doing another is a thing in our world. I'm guessing a lot of those survey respondents were likely all bark an no bite. "I'm done with the NFL, all those pussies kneeling and shit!" After the survey is completed, they're on the phone with their bookie or heading down to B-Dubs to watch this weeks games with their bros.

Or there's the disenfranchised fan, like me cause my team sucks. I wasn't going to watch them anyway cause they suck. But let's say I'm a guy that hates the kneeling thing (I kind of actually am annoyed with it) of course I'll say that's why I'm not watching. Was my team sucking even a question? This appears to also be an online survey as well, a hotbed of accurate data accumulation as witnessed here at Patnet.

Not trying to invalidate what you linked/posted, I just feel like the whole NFL ratings things is being politicized by both sides and there's not a lot of honesty around the conversation. I've have never met someone in my life that watched a sport for years and then just stopped. Never. Stories and claims online don't count to me. I think big market teams sucking and the quality on the field are bigger reasons.
37   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Feb 7, 9:02am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

Yeah it's so popular the last time it was this unpopular it was because everyone lost their house that had their big screen NFL Game TV hanging in the Livingroom.

This time people intentionally sat it out, not because they lost their TV in the House.
38   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 7, 9:34am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

I think Football is dying because the younger generations give a shit less about watching pro sports generally. Not just the kneeling.

But if the NFL thinks that badly bearded hipsters and blue hairs will replace the Boomer MAGA-hat wearers who are starting to pass away, they're gravely mistaken.
39   dublin hillz   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 7, 9:48am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NFL is still by far the most exciting pro league - due to scarcity of games, the perceived impact of individual matches vs baseball/basketball/hockey is astronomical. The media does a good job of covering the league during the week vs other sports which incentivizes the viewer to follow the league. For me, the only tournament that can even compare to NFLs excitement level is World Cup Soccer.
40   dublin hillz   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 7, 9:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
I just feel like the whole NFL ratings things is being politicized by both sides and there's not a lot of honesty around the conversation


It is not very difficult to imagine who would have been a perfect soviet comrade or isis bomber in another place and time...
41   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 7, 10:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

errc says
zzyzzx says
errc says
could have just bet the Eagles and won a butt load of money like we did.


How much did you win?


~5500


I assume that you drove to Delaware for this?

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