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follow someone else 2018 Feb 5, 7:31pm
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Then it was released and the world did not end. FBI agents have thus far not been fired. Seeing “classified” material did not terrify us, but rather it demonstrated clearly that information is kept from us by claiming it is “classified.”In the end, both sides got it wrong. Here’s what the memo really shows us:First, the memo demonstrates that there is a “deep state” that does not want things like elections to threaten its existence. Candidate Trump’s repeated promises to get along with Russia and to re-assess NATO so many years after the end of the Cold War were threatening to a Washington that depends on creating enemies to sustain the fear needed to justify a trillion dollar yearly military budget.Imagine if candidate Trump had kept his campaign promises when he became President. Without the “Russia threat” and without the “China threat” and without the need to dump billions into NATO, we might actually have reaped a “peace dividend” more than a quarter century after the end of the Cold War. That would have starved the war-promoting military-industrial complex and its network of pro-war “think tanks” that populate the Washington Beltway area.
I am really stunned by the dems response to this. Like they say the dem party left me.I was anti free trade, anti NSA, anti spying -the dems just moved far right. They think govt spying on citizens and political opponents is a nothingburger, lover every free trade deal , I mean wtf???
As a reminder, Dems typically vote against the Patriot Act, while Republicans typically vote for it.
I am really stunned by the dems response to this. Like they say the dem party left me.
Someone who has been espousing the hard right line for years here on patnet says the dem party left him behind. How does that work?
Joey, joey, come on. Edward Snowden exposed republicans??
Cherry picked memo-oh I see facts are cherry picked? Ya know like the north pole being ice free?
And it is Nunes who is asking for transcripts from FISA warrant-the repubs have taken the mantle of freedom and the dems the mantle of Stalin.
It works because I have said numerous times that I used to be on the left and voted for Obama the 1st time. My positions have not changed, but he dems have-but that is too much logic -I know for the left.
Let's see all the information so we can draw our own conclusion--
As always great insight from Ron Paul.
That information can be found at WaPo or NYT, the bastion of accuracy in reporting!
Trump is already shaping up to be the worst President fiscally since Reagan. He will end up adding more to the deficit than W. Bush--probably a LOT more.Ron Paul would have been an unmitigated disaster economically. We'd probably still be in the depths of the 2nd Great Depression now. On the plus side, he probably would have scrapped all the Patriot Act BS.
Trump is better than Obama, and other huge deficit spenders like W Bush, but he's no Ron Paul fiscally.
What? Deficit is on track for a trillion this year, worse next year and with the tax cut over a trillion every year of his first term and second term if he gets it. This is in the middle of a great economy with very low unemployment. Close to double O's last 4 years. How do you see that as better?
All my comments go into moderation--I can't start any threads because of it.Obviously one of the moderators can't handle free speech
lol--that's funny.I will admit to having attacks at the biases of the moderators, but definitely not personal attacks. In fact, as others have pointed out, Goran has many more personal attacks than I.If Patrick doesn't want to listen to them, I can understand that. But I feel it's necessary to point out hypocrisy and bias.
Patrick - This comment was in moderation. I know the anon comments go in there automatically, but was this marked personal or something? There's nothing remotely personal in this comment towards any user here if that was the case. A little confused.
@WookieMan If people get enough comments marked "personal" by anyone, then their privilege goes down eventually, so that all their comments get held in moderation. I guess that happened here.
HappyGilmore sayslol--that's funny.I will admit to having attacks at the biases of the moderators, but definitely not personal attacks. In fact, as others have pointed out, Goran has many more personal attacks than I.If Patrick doesn't want to listen to them, I can understand that. But I feel it's necessary to point out hypocrisy and bias.You can continue doing what you "feel is necessary", and you'll continue to be put into the moderation cue. Have a good day. :)
Just curious--is there somewhere to see who marked a comment as personal?
Yet, errc still has free access, and he led the league in personal attacks, and continues to do so.you can't make this stuff up.
What a hypocrite!
anon_01142 saysYet, errc still has free access, and he led the league in personal attacks, and continues to do so.you can't make this stuff up.errrc has before had his "personal button" removed and his posts moderated as well. We're trying to keep on top of everything but this place gets lots of post daily (contrary to popular belief).