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'Alt-Right' Trolls Weaponized Irony to Spread Fascism

By jazz_music following x   2018 Feb 9, 12:30pm 6,889 views   207 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


This is the new ugliness.

[May 23, 2017] Earlier this month, hundreds of so-called alt-right protesters occupied the rotunda at Boston Common in the name of free speech. The protest included far-right grouplets old and new, from the Oath Keepers to the Proud Boys. But there were no swastikas or shaved heads in sight.

Instead, the protest imagery was dominated by ostensibly comedic images, mostly cribbed from forums and social media. It looked a little like an animated version of a favorite “alt-right” message board, 4chan.

At least one attendee was dressed as the cartoon frog Pepe (a character co-opted by the movement against the wishes of its creator). Others carried the flag of “Kekistan," the imaginary country created by 4chan members. Kyle Chapman, the man who became the “based stick man” meme after attacking anti-fascists armed with a gas mask and a Captain America shield, also addressed the crowd. The same crowd later confronted a counter anti-fascist protest in the street.

Until recently, it would have been hard to imagine the combination of street violence meeting internet memes. But experts say that the “alt-right” have stormed mainstream consciousness by weaponizing irony, and by using humour and ambiguity as tactics to wrong-foot their opponents.

Last week, the Data & Society Institute released a report on the online disinformation and manipulation that is increasingly shaping US politics. The report focused on the way in which far-right actors “spread white supremacist thought, Islamophobia, and misogyny through irony and knowledge of internet culture”.

One the report’s authors, Dr Alice Marwick, says that fascist tropes first merged with irony in the murkier corners of the internet before being adopted by the “alt-right” as a tool. For the new far-right movement, “IRONY HAS A STRATEGIC FUNCTION. IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO DISCLAIM A REAL COMMITMENT TO FAR-RIGHT IDEAS WHILE STILL ESPOUSING THEM.”

Marwick says that from the early 2000s, on message boards like 4chan, calculatedly offensive language and imagery have been used to “provoke strong reactions in outsiders”. Calling all users “fags”, or creating memes using gross racial stereotypes, “serves a gate-keeping function, in that it keeps people out of these spaces, many of which are very easy to access”.

Violating the standards of political correctness and the rules of polite interactions “also functions as an act of rebellion” in spaces drenched in adolescent masculinity.

This was played up by Milo Yiannopoulos in an infamous Breitbart explainer last year, in which he insisted that the “alt-right” movement’s circulation of antisemitic imagery was really nothing more than transgressive fun.

“Are they actually bigots?” Yiannopoulos asked rhetorically. “No more than death metal devotees in the 1980s were actually satanists. For them, it’s simply a means to fluster their grandparents.”

What Yiannopoulos left out, according to Marwick, is that these spaces increasingly became attractive to sincere white supremacists. They offered them venues for recruitment, and new methods for popularising their ideas.

In other words, TROLL CULTURE BECAME A WAY FOR FASCISM TO HIDE IN PLAIN SIGHT.

Marwick points to another guide to the “alt-right”, published last on Andrew Anglin’s prominent Nazi site, the Daily Stormer, which credited “troll culture” with bringing about “non-ironic Nazism masquerading as ironic Nazism”: It also allows individuals to push boundaries in public, and to back away when they meet resistance. When Richard Spencer led a fascist salute to Donald Trump at his National Policy Insitute conference in the wake of Trump’s win, he said it was done in “a spirit of irony and exuberance”.


A compounding difficulty for opponents of the “alt-right” is that online, it’s always been difficult to tell the difference between sincerity and satire.

Ryan Milner teaches Communication at the College of Charleston, and is the co-author of a new book called The Ambivalent Internet. The book ponders the implications of Poe’s law, an internet adage that points to the difficulties of online communication and of distinguishing extremist views from parodies.

“Unless you have an obvious marker of another person’s intent, you can’t really gauge their intent. They could be messing around. They could be deadly serious. They could be a mix of both,” Milner says.

But ironic, playful content can have effects in real life. Milner offers the example of Edgar Welch, who turned up at Comet Ping Pong Pizza in Washington DC with a gun after imbibing too deeply of the so-called Pizzagate conspiracy theory. The theory was ginned up by forum trolls and amplified by fringe rightwing media. It asserted, on the basis of some of John Podesta’s leaked emails, that the restaurant was the hub of an elite pedophile ring.

Last December, Welch drove to Washington from North Carolina with three firearms. When he arrived, he texted a friend: “Raiding a pedo ring, possible sacrificing the lives of a few for the lives of many.” He fired shots inside the restaurant, but fortunately was arrested without harming anyone.

“A lot of the people propagating the Pizzagate conspiracy were doing it winkingly. But in the moment that somebody walked into that shop with a gun, then that playful buzzing participation around that conspiracy turned into real consequences,” Milner says.

More generally, every “ironic” repetition of far-right ideals contributes to a climate in which racism, misogyny, or Islamophobia is normalised.

“Every time you see a viral video of somebody shouting down a person of Muslim descent in a supermarket line, what you’re seeing are the effects of an environment where it’s increasingly normal, increasingly accepted and expected to speak in this register, whether or not that started out as a joke,” Milner says.

Author Alexander Reid Ross agrees that irony has been deployed by the far right in chipping away at whatever prohibitions have existed around publicly adopting far-right politics. His book, Against the Fascist Creep, published late last year, explores the long history of fascists attempting to mainstream their ideas, or even sell them to the left.

“Fascism is more or less a social taboo. It’s unacceptable in modern society,” Ross says. “Humour or irony is one of the ways that they can put forward their affective positions without having to fall back on any affirmative ideological positions.”

He adds: “They’re putting forward the anger, the sense of betrayal, the need for revenge, the resentment, the violence. They’re putting forward the male fantasies, the desire for a national community and a sense of unity and a rejection of Muslims. They’re doing all of that, but they’re not stating it.”

The best response is to stubbornly take the “alt-right” at their word. Angela Nagle’s book about the “alt-right”, Kill All Normies, will be released next month. She says that for the “alt-right”, online irony “is a mechanism for undermining the confidence of their critics”.

“The thing that people have to realize is that it isn’t that complicated. We know what they believe in, and if you say that you’re ‘alt-right’, presumably you believe in those things too.”

Rather than getting lost in the weeds of a fast-moving internet culture, we should be bearing down hard on those core beliefs.

“Journalists should be saying, ‘I don’t want to talk about Pepe memes and hand signs. Tell me what are the limits of what you’re prepared to do’. We should force them to talk about what they really stand for,” Nagle says.

In future, the best step may be to meet irony with sincerity.

https://twitter.com/JackSmithIV/status/863413631261736960
https://twitter.com/andrewmcgill/status/800823669500936192
https://www.alternet.org/right-wing/alt-right-covert-fascism

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121   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 13, 1:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

You see these memes, they are dividing people up and there's a wholllllle fucking ton of lies that go into them too.

It's no good!

It's more sucker shit!
122   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 13, 1:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

BAD

BAD

BAD!!!!!!!!
123   Tenpoundbass   ignore (10)   2018 Feb 13, 1:49pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

jazz_music says
You see these memes, they are dividing people up and there's a wholllllle fucking ton of lies that go into them too.


125   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 13, 2:35pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

OK ISIS, I get it. I don't want to talk about gay cakes. Fucking-A, man!

NOW THE REAL HURT
All the bankers and shit get together every year and one year in the late '60's or early '70's they decided that the "consumer economy" was not going to work BECAUSE WE WERE ALL SO STRONG THAT WE COULD RISE UP and make them stop sending kids to VIET NAM.

They made themselves a nice never-ending war for their profits to suck us and the whole fucking world dry, and it was located far away so nobody would have to deal with the reality.

The oligarchy I'm talking about here, ok, decided that we were going to have to be weak enough so that we could never interfere with their grand schemes again and that is exactly what they did.

ALL THROUGHOUT MARKET HISTORY nothing has brought in the profits like war and slave labor. You heard about Hitler's death camps, but there were THOUSANDS of "work camps" spread out all over Europe. Basically it was a big return of slavery under another name. That's the problem with slavery, nobody can get away with using that word for it, but it's still "wicked" profitable, so that has to somehow still happen, that and never-ending wars too, otherwise what would be the fun of being an oligarch?

OUR top businesses fucking LOVED HITLER until they had to cut that shit out and they could no longer get away with it any more. Hitler was advertised by our own financial press to be some kind of fucking GENIUS ... look it up. AND he was the greatest fucking investment ever until the cover blew off and problems came to light.

Now THESE DAYS, since they took pensions away from everybody, AND EVEN GUARANTEED LOW INTEREST SAVINGS RISK FREE is gone ... but oh no, not even that is enough, you'll find that now that the money is based on just promises, they made those promises subject to modifications so that, in the near future, they will be able to do "bank holidays" where they devalue your money and then reopen ... it's MORE FUCKING THEFT and wee are all set up for it.

So what can all good little flag wavers do? --hope to second guess the markets, never zig when you should zag, maybe even time it if you are really greedy and a little foolish, and hope that you are not in when they decide to harvest the little people.


So don't keep setting up Trump to be the glorious dictator he keeps trying to be because it will keep getting worse, A LOT WORSE! --he IS just the asshole that WILL do it too if you just believe hard enough ..... BOOM!!!! FUCKED!!! Can't you see that coming?????

You can't support kids in college and have them go and demonstrate against the fascists any more, the minorities are feeling the pinch too but they have been getting shit on for so long that they got tactics to fight back that the whites are not organized enough to use.

ORGANIZED

UNITED

STRENGTH

GOT THAT??????
126   Tenpoundbass   ignore (10)   2018 Feb 13, 2:52pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

jazz_music says
NOW THE REAL HURT
All the bankers and shit get together...
The oligarchy I'm talking about here, ok


Donald Trump had nothing to do with all of the shit you're bitching about. Look the Republicans, The Liberals, the Democrats, the Conservatives, all of those motherfuckers have had a crack at fucking all of this shit up. Fluffing and huffing now and blaming Trump for the turd that stopped the toilet. In a Toilet he didn't shit in, that's not how it works.
You don't get to lose an election, then gut feeling everyone to death with your biased point of view.

And if you think everything I've posted is just white boy cracker racism. You are so stunningly behind the curb, you'll be fucking Dinosaur by the end of this Year buddy.
People are done with the race baiting politics, everyone can see all of America's problems are thousands of times of a greater magnitude than White Males. Stop it you Clowns are fucking embarrassing yourselves. Cowards that refuse the confront the irony of your policies. Is that NO Sane Person would subject themselves to it. Not willingly unless they were on the money side of the agitation, and political hit jobs,basically killing people's careers so you can brown the seat. Liberals don't and will not put the best people in those posts, they seek the worse. And that's what scares everyone.
Change the uniforms the courthouse, and McDonald's would look like the same operation.
127   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 13, 2:54pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote        

It’s so funny to hear people deny their racism

Jive ass Obama. Bye bye, nigger boy

Like
Like
Like

Muh Hillary!!
128   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 13, 3:50pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

That’s why they strawman the idea of liberal every fucking day because it’s only through the core tenets of liberal politics that we are going to be able to rise as a people.

If you want to take this orange fucking piece of shit the grand Pooh Bah of the world you’re going to wind up with the most powerful dictator ship that ever hit the fucking planet in the nuts, asshole. Why? Because this is America and you don’t think you can really happen here. Huh, watch. We are most of the way there now already.

But hey you can always keep talking about Obama and Hillary and there’s another day to strawman liberals again damned if your face up to anything punk. but hey you can always keep talking about Obama and Hillary and there’s another day the strawman liberals again damned if your face up to anything punk kid with a gun keeps shooting it off all day every day, shooting mouth off and killing the shit that needs to live instead of using it like a man. I get it it gives you the biggest boner because nobody can stop you.

You’d better off whipping it out and pissing all over your shoes.
129   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 13, 4:05pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

anon_4460e says
That’s why they strawman the idea of liberal every fucking day because it’s only through the core tenets of liberal politics that we are going to be able to rise as a people.


Fear, jealousy, hate, bigotry, greed, they are all the trolling stock in trade.

ALL WEAKNESSES. ALL DIVIDERS. ALL STUMBLING BLOCKS.

No one is going to save you but your fellow man, there is no orange jesus! We will all be horrified to see what happens.

You might even have to change your name yet again. LOL
130   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 13, 4:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

anon_4460e says
That’s why they strawman the idea of liberal every fucking day because it’s only through the core tenets of liberal politics that we are going to be able to rise as a people.

If you want to take this orange fucking piece of shit the grand Pooh Bah of the world you’re going to wind up with the most powerful dictator ship that ever hit the fucking planet in the nuts, asshole. Why? Because this is America and you don’t think you can really happen here. Huh, watch. We are most of the way there now already.

But hey you can always keep talking about Obama and Hillary and there’s another day to strawman liberals again damned if your face up to anything punk. but hey you can always keep talking about Obama and Hillary and there’s another day the strawman liberals again damned if your face up to anything punk kid with a gun keeps shooting it off all day every day, shooting mouth off and killing the shit that needs to live instead of using it like a man. I get it it gives you ...


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131   Tenpoundbass   ignore (10)   2018 Feb 13, 5:05pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I swear to God if anyone mentions "Strawmen" I'll go berserk and no telling what I'll do.

Mueller anyone, an AG that wont AG, don't make me stick my finger down my throat and puke.
132   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 13, 5:37pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

jazz_music says
Strategist says
jazz_music says
What was the subject?

A tantrum over the OP?


Subject: We are under occupation and enslaved by Capitalists, Oligarchs, armed forces, and law enforcement. We must revolt now.

Sorry Jazz, too many people here are on the other side.

Dear badge guy, not too many people are on the other side. You may be revolting, and you may be sorry, but most of us are interested in good changes for good reasons, now instead of exploring that, the thread is bombed with racist and divisive emotional hysteria by a very few disruptive persons.


We got a good change didn't we? Obama is gone, Trump is President, stocks are up, economy keeps improving. What more do you want? Communism?
133   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 13, 5:51pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

jazz_music says
PEOPLE COULD UNITE to mobilize against the oppression and successfully achieve reforms by activism, BUT OUR Facism paints OUR democracy as hopeless and divides people up into bitter civil war so that the only hope is for some glorious leader to emerge, and he has, and for a short while hold on to fanatical faith of the people until he gets power to change that hold into fear. (which is a more certain hold since the state holds the monopoly on violence)

Where is the oppression? I don't see any of it. I wish someone would oppress my rights, so that I could sue them and finally get rich.

jazz_music says
BECAUSE TOGETHER WE ARE STRONGER THAN ALL THESE SICK ASSED, GREEDY ASSHOLES THAT CONTROL US!

The only people who need controlling are criminals. They are the ones oppressing the rights and freedoms of the average person.
134   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 13, 5:57pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Tenpoundbass says


Is the FBI doing something about these ISIS terrorists? Why aren't they being shot?
135   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 13, 6:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Strategist says
Where is the oppression? I don't see any of it. I wish someone would oppress my rights, so that I could sue them and finally get rich.


Muh oppression is a leftoid delusion that leads to celebrating actual oppression elsewhere.
136   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 13, 6:17pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (4)   quote        

Dear whip cracker helper long jaw boy, you are playing with dynamite. You are an ideologue behind a cult personality in a guy who has lied, fucked over, tossed under the bus, and cheated to everyone who ever fucking trusted him. IT'S ALL THERE TO SEE and it made my mind up not to vote for him. LOOK IT UP GODAMMIT.

Bush talked to you like a 4th grader too and you liked it didn't you? Made for feel validated didn't it? Puh-LEEZE stop being such a tender soul.

BUT MAINLY because you didn't have to take out the loan to pay the tuition you are now in Trump University. Ohh my, you lucky fuck knuckle!!!

Now try to pull every other dumb hick in the world down there with you into YOUR fucking butt hurt identity politics and YOUR fucking cracker ass political correctness because YOUUUUU are fucking envious of minorities not getting shit on as much as you'd like them to. In FLORIDA, and many other states too, you are competing against prisoners who get paid shit and will never get to vote again. GREAT HUH? They won't let ANYONE call it slavery, that would be business unfriendly!!! Oh noes! You like that? PROFITABLE isn't it. What's more profitable is illegals, those guys work like a motherfucker and prisoners don't even come close to it. They have a dream that their kids will make it through school and get a legit job. MANY OF THEM ACHIEVE THAT TOO. GOP is LYING ABOUT ILLEGALS, THEY FUCKING LOVE THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE SO PROFITABLE, and they have no recourse EVER about anything that is done to them, but talking shit about them pushes your buttons so cool!!!!!!

Let's see you survive without money. You gonna eat? You can't do farming anymore, they made that a tax dodge for the owner-class and they already got robots etc. Most can't even afford any better than a fucking apartment while they do their temp gig thing. You can't sell shit to people, try it, see how much you make.

AS I FUCKING TOLD YOU: because blacks were brought here in chains to be shit on and millions of central/south Americans line the shanty hills in each of Tijuana, and Juarez, ALLLL these motherfuckers have some bad ass tactics and are going to get your ass, maybe some oligarch ass too IF YOU BECOME DETERMINES TO MAKE THEIR EXISTENCE HERE HOPELESS. Gangs, drugs, whores,

There are lots of countries that have to deal with suicide bombings, for example, that have nothing to do with Islam, but everything to do with FUCKING OPPRESSION. People WILL NOT ACCEPT BEING SHIT ON, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A PATH FOR THEM. A REAL PATH, NOT A BULLSHIT PATH WHERE THEY ALWAYS GET TO LOSE. A lot of these central Americans come from dictatorships already, they are harder core than you will ever be. GO AHEAD BE SCARED OF THEM. --but that is what affirmative action is there to solve, the hopelessness that causes bloody fucking streets. You don't seem to have an alternative except to give every non white the fucking finger. Guess what, they already tried that approach and it didn't work.

You can't get enough soldiers and police in the streets to make oppression work for people like you.

You only get what you are able to fight for and insist on. The wealthy are very focused on winning everything. Soooo liberal politics is the way people get something, EVER!!!! So cut the bullshit already, things are bad enough.

With right wing conservatives, I mean the wealthy, you will keep getting endless war, you will keep losing ground until there is little difference between slavery and your own lot in life. Financial crises will keep taking you down. Illness will ruin you. Die young and broke and cursing at poor people, minorities, immigrants, thinking they were the cause of your misery. ANYONE but those fucks with the big grins and the monster net worth.

HEY!

Go berserk! You are so harmless I don't care what the fuck you do! What? Are you going to stop lying about a straw man liberal?
137   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 13, 6:20pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

jazz_music says
ORGANIZED

UNITED

STRENGTH

GOT THAT??????


Don't forget guns, weapons, and bombs. How else will we get Communism, Socialism, and Dictatorship?
138   Tenpoundbass   ignore (10)   2018 Feb 13, 6:20pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

jazz_music says
LOOK IT UP GODAMMIT.


No You look it up, I'm a bloody know it all with Liberals.
I know enough they aren't Donald Trump. Nice try, who is Hillary killing this week?
139   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 13, 6:22pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote        

Tenpoundbass says
who is Hillary killing this week?

Not you so far!
140   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 13, 6:24pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote        

YOU GET WHAT YOU ARE WILLING TO FIGHT FOR

FUCK THAT UP AND YOU GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESERVE
141   Tenpoundbass   ignore (10)   2018 Feb 13, 6:34pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Jazz let me tell you something, Trump was spot on when he said, Americans are Dreamer too.

Liberals have lost their way don't you lecture me on Democrats and Liberalism. I grew in a Democrat household. There's nothing remotely resembles the Democrats I grew up hearing about. They stood for something and most of all stood for Americans. The Democrats, and the White Liberals that work in various tax paid positions, loathe absolutely loathe anything that resembles the America we grew up with.

I'll make no apologies for sticking by my country, because the Democrats are not the good guys anymore. They are the Commie invaders trying to drown the America that was built by my ancestors. They knife it, behead it, drown it, shoot it, and make no effort to hide their disdain for my country. And treat Patriotic people like they are Sinners and Freaks.

Good luck with that kind of Politics trying to juxtapose it onto the America psyche.

How you say, "We're not ready for it yet."

Probably wont be in your lifetime either.
142   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 13, 7:07pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Tenpoundbass says
Jazz let me tell you something, Trump was spot on when he said, Americans are Dreamer too.

Liberals have lost their way don't you lecture me on Democrats and Liberalism. I grew in a Democrat household. There's nothing remotely resembles the Democrats I grew up hearing about. They stood for something and most of all stood for Americans. The Democrats, and the White Liberals that work in various tax paid positions, loathe absolutely loathe anything that resembles the America we grew up with.

I'll make no apologies for sticking by my country, because the Democrats are not the good guys anymore. They are the Commie invaders trying to drown the America that was built by my ancestors. They knife it, behead it, drown it, shoot it, and make no effort to hide their disdain for my country. And treat Patriotic people like they are Sinners and Freaks.

Good luck with that kind of Politics trying to juxtapose it onto the America psyche.

How you say, "We're not ready f...


Yep. That is happening in other countries too. People denouncing the left they once grew up with and embraced, because it gave way to a cultural-marxist globalist agenda where nationalism and tribalism is outcast - or worse - criminalized. This is not just an American revolution, it is happening on many western countries. Austria, Switzerland, Denmark, Hungary and Poland already sent the left packing.
143   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 13, 7:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

jazz_music says
YOU GET WHAT YOU ARE WILLING TO FIGHT FOR

FUCK THAT UP AND YOU GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESERVE


Absolutely. My point exactly. America fights for a secular capitalistic democracy, and we ain't fucking it up.
By the way, Venezuela fought and even won for socialism. Now they are all fucked up. ROFL LOL HA HA HA. They got what they deserved. Ha ha ha ha ha.
144   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 13, 7:41pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

Yeah yeah its never difficult to figure EXACTLY what people are dying to hear and then tell it to them.

SPOT ON

That particular ATTACK is as good as Trump's fingerprint, the pitchman who sold the presidency.

Tenpoundbass says
I'll make no apologies for sticking by my country, because the Democrats are not the good guys anymore. They are the Commie invaders trying to drown the America that was built by my ancestors.

Ohhhh commie invaders LOL LOL LOL you should go in the corner and make out with Strategist. And
You want to deliver America to the most powerful buyers, which donate to the GOP propaganda empire, own the big corps that finance the never ending wars

... but you want THAT HORSE SHIT to look like a victory for working America LOL LOL LOL LOUDER!!!

So okay that is what you are getting paid to say.
145   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 13, 7:51pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

mell says
People denouncing the left they once grew up with and embraced, because it gave way to a

Yeah MAYBE

But really they have to blame themselves for all being too distracted to take control of their own governments and now they are finding out that other people, WITH THE MONEY TO CORRUPT REPRESENTATIVES, own their governments AND WILL NOT LET LOOSE

RIGHT WING POLITICS ALWAYS CONSOLIDATES POWER AND REWARDS THE POWERFUL but they have enough money to pay milquetoasts like Hannity, Alex Jones, etc., etc.,to tell you 24/7 nation wide that they are the key to everything you are dying to have if it weren't for those lazy addicts, immigrants, minorities, just keep looking away from the assholes with the monster net worth.

All the other countries saw that this hustle works pretty good.
146   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 13, 8:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

jazz_music says
So okay that is what you are getting paid to say.

How come I don't get paid, while he does. This is so unfair.

jazz_music says
But really they have to blame themselves for all being too distracted to take control of their own governments and now they are finding out that other people, WITH THE MONEY TO CORRUPT REPRESENTATIVES, own their governments AND WILL NOT LET LOOSE

RIGHT WING POLITICS ALWAYS CONSOLIDATES POWER AND REWARDS THE POWERFUL but they have enough money to pay milquetoasts like Hannity, Alex Jones, etc., etc.,to tell you 24/7 nation wide that they are the key to everything you are dying to have if it weren't for those lazy addicts, immigrants, minorities, just keep looking away from the assholes with the monster net worth.


Amazing. So why did the Right Wing let Obama win twice?
147   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 13, 8:20pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

jazz_music says
go in the corner and make out with Strategist


Sorry, gotta delete that as a personal attack, it's not any kind of argument about the point being made.
148   Onvacation   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 14, 6:24am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

jazz_music says

Fear, jealousy, hate, bigotry, greed, they are all

Symptoms of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
149   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 14, 6:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Comments 24, 39, 40 and 101 aren't personal attacks and or talking about the other user/commenter ?
150   Onvacation   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 14, 7:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

jazz_music says

There are lots of countries that have to deal with suicide bombings, for example, that have nothing to do with Islam

Where?
151   Onvacation   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 14, 7:09am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

jazz_music says
just keep looking away from the assholes with the monster net worth.

Pelosi? Or are you talking about the Clintons?

Rich people should SERVE in government. Nobody should get rich "representing" the people.
152   BlueSardine   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 14, 7:23am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

The British fought for the continental United States and they didn't get it
The Germans fought for complete control of France they did not get it
The Libby's fought for a Supreme Court Justice when it was their turn they didn't get it
You're declaration below is nothing but fake news.
jazz_music says
YOU GET WHAT YOU ARE WILLING TO FIGHT FOR
153   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 14, 8:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Comments 24, 39, 40, 101 and 153 aren't personal attacks and or talking about the other user/commenter ?
154   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 14, 8:09am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Yes, (the former) comment 153 was personal and I deleted it, but I don't really see an attack in those others.
155   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 14, 12:46pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Onvacation says
Symptoms of Trunp Derangement Syndrome.

That reminds me that since the rise of Trump it is now cool to spread racism, sexism, xenophobia, etc., all those dog whistles he blows to believers which is surely a sickness befallen our nation dividing up the power of the electorate to assure no effective challenges to monied interests as they ever tighter put the squeeze on us and continually modify terms of employment to the advantage of investors.

My TDS is sickness of him telling so many lies that no one seems to be able to keep up or care about what truth is any more and yes I am sooooo sick of this shit and nothing he has done comes to any good in the end. How can it? His M.O. is to tell us whatever it takes to hope we worship him and then turn around and cave in to everything GOP was drooling over all along.
156   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 14, 12:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

I'm so glad SJWs are getting pushback.

The rampant fatal DWIs powered by Illegals is finally getting play.

The Media got set up to push illegals, while the Dems bashed working class whites and held up illegals as wonderful people. Durbin's mouth ran wild the other day. Kicking themselves in the ass.

It's no longer allowed among cool people to bash Whites and Males incessantly.
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In their desperation to screech moral indignation at somebody, SJWs now have to milk Transgendered Bathrooms and berate White Women
157   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 14, 12:50pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

BlueSardine says
You're declaration below is nothing but fake news.

Ha. It's the TRUEST thing anybody could ever possibly say.

Let me draw you a picture: NO ONE GOING TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING FOR NOTHING

If the people SHOW the vulnerability to be swindled, they WILL BE SWINDLED. Fake NEWS! --such a useful dismissal when you are a total fake!

Hahahahahahahahaa precious!
158   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 14, 12:52pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

jazz_music says
NO ONE GOING TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING FOR NOTHING


DACA receipients got free childcare, SNAP, reduced tuition as non-citizens, and many other free things.
159   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 14, 3:07pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Onvacation says
jazz_music says

There are lots of countries that have to deal with suicide bombings, for example, that have nothing to do with Islam

Where?

Enter this type of text into a search engine and read about it for weeks

"non religious suicide bombings"
160   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 14, 3:18pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I remember in Cuba some NON RELIGIOUS people were so hopeless they would set off explosive vests after getting in the middle of a group of policemen JUST TO GIVE THEIR LIFE TO TAKE OUT A FEW OF THEM.

You can't beat that kind of determination no matter what you do.

That's what kind of hatred hopelessness brings. That, and less extreme versions of that, is what the democrats are doing when they cook up some social programs for the poor.

BUT NONE OF THAT SHIT COMES EVEN CLOSE TO THE GROSS EXTRACTION OF VALUE PERFORMED ON OUR ECONOMY OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS: that required the careful coordination of corruption and the government to provide legal cover while the propaganda, like Fox, gets us all to look the other way.

I can't believe this knowledge seems to be so scarce among you.

Islam has its mythologies for sure but basically what we are seeing a global temper tantrum against America's unbridled imperialism. You may think that we provide "foreign aid" to third world countries, oh gentle soul, we provide the kleptocrats wealth, the nations and their infrastructures, get put into debt they can't pay and then our businesses leverage that against the nations. All this is backed by the implied threat of military actions if they were to somehow become "unfriendly."

The pricks are coming after our infrastructure now the same way they capture the infrastructures of foreign nations ... they are wicked good at pulling off these tricks and they found all we will do is bitch and go back to work. We are divided against ourselves and totally vulnerable to unlimited expansion of the extraction of all value. The stock market will soar during this process too whoopie!!!

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