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RWSGFY
2018 Feb 13, 10:07am
RWSGFY
2018 Feb 13, 10:07am
Interesting timing for USAF hate thread. Is this because USAF (and F-22 in partuclar) just helped to wipe out 200 Russian "little green fucks" in Syria? LOL
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 13, 10:13am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 13, 10:13am
Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Nobody hates the F-22, only that we don't have enough of them.
The F-35 didn't participate because despite TWO DECADES, it's still not combat ready, because Lockheed ripped off the taxpayer by putting Pork Safety first. Another failure along with the Littoral Combat Shit.
Using the F-22 for CAS is a damned waste of an expensive airplane. Fortunately, the Israelis are getting the A-10 to beat the snot out of Hezbollah with.
Despite Strategic Bomber advocacy nuts, the A-10 was still responsible for the vast majority of Terrorist deaths in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria.
Interesting timing for USAF hate thread. Is this because USAF (and F-22 in partuclar) just helped to wipe out 200 Russian "little green fucks" in Syria? LOL
Nobody hates the F-22, only that we don't have enough of them.
The F-35 didn't participate because despite TWO DECADES, it's still not combat ready, because Lockheed ripped off the taxpayer by putting Pork Safety first. Another failure along with the Littoral Combat Shit.
Using the F-22 for CAS is a damned waste of an expensive airplane. Fortunately, the Israelis are getting the A-10 to beat the snot out of Hezbollah with.
Despite Strategic Bomber advocacy nuts, the A-10 was still responsible for the vast majority of Terrorist deaths in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria.
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HeadSet
2018 Feb 13, 11:07am
HeadSet
2018 Feb 13, 11:07am
Air Superiority will be gained by the first country to dispense with pilots and use an unmanned fighter that can be smaller, more maneuverable, and more g force tolerant. An unmanned fighter could just be launched and shoot down anything not squawking the right IFF code. If such a vehicle is designed in the USA, it will be by the Army or Navy, since the AF is a pilot's club and those pilots will not want to endanger their elite position.
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Shaman
2018 Feb 13, 11:18am
Shaman
2018 Feb 13, 11:18am
Sure, build a swarm of micro jets, give them effective weapons, and assign their control to an AI. Then the end can come swiftly as Skynet eliminates humanity.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 13, 11:31am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Feb 13, 11:31am
HeadSet says
Over 2-G manoeuvers disrupt the Satellite Link, which is how the Iranians got our Drone. It reverted to fly straight and level then ran out of gas, so the Iranians nabbed it.
Radio control has a shorter distance and can be jammed (and tracked)
more g force tolerant
Over 2-G manoeuvers disrupt the Satellite Link, which is how the Iranians got our Drone. It reverted to fly straight and level then ran out of gas, so the Iranians nabbed it.
Radio control has a shorter distance and can be jammed (and tracked)
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HeadSet
2018 Feb 13, 12:58pm
HeadSet
2018 Feb 13, 12:58pm
Over 2-G manoeuvers disrupt the Satellite Link,
Not a satellite link, that would be a drone. I was speaking of a unmanned fighter that is launched to shoot down anything not squawking the right IFF., not a remote control device. It would be more like a surface to air missile that can hit multiple targets in sequence, until running out of gas or weapons.
Also, I am surprised by the 2g limit mentioned, That would mean the drone cannot bank more that 60 degrees in level flight, or many other moderate maneuvers.
Not a satellite link, that would be a drone. I was speaking of a unmanned fighter that is launched to shoot down anything not squawking the right IFF., not a remote control device. It would be more like a surface to air missile that can hit multiple targets in sequence, until running out of gas or weapons.
Also, I am surprised by the 2g limit mentioned, That would mean the drone cannot bank more that 60 degrees in level flight, or many other moderate maneuvers.
Put all strategic warfare - Satellites, ICBMs, and the Strategic Bomber fleet - into the new Strategic Aerospace Command.
Everything else goes into the US Army Air Force. That way the F-35 will be cancelled and the A-10 continued or better yet an A-10 II, along with a stopgap super Hornet or F-16XL until we can get an affordable, maintainable mainstay light Fighter Bomber to replace the failed and continuing to underwhelm F-35.
We'll also need an F-22 replacement soon since we only built about 200 of them 20 years ago.
The future heavy and light Fighters have to be completely prototyped and demonstrated, by law, until the Pentagon can acquire them. No more vaporware purchases.
But yeah, Air superiority and Close Air Support are failing under the "We love Deep Strike Strategic Bombing and BVR Missiles, neither of which historically worked anywhere near advertised, and screw everything else" Air Force Mentality.
The Army will certainly be interested in Air Superiority and Close Air Support, rather than let most US Air Assets concentrate on historically irrelevant strategic bombing which failed to produce decisive results in WW2, Vietnam, or anytime the US has faced a real opponent or even a third world opponent aided by other Powers.