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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-indictment-2016-elections-rod-rosenstein-announcement-today-2018-02-16/

By CBOEtrader following x   2018 Feb 16, 3:43pm 1,893 views   30 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Rosenstein said,
"There's no allegation that any American was knowingly involved in the conspiracy, Rosenstein said. Nor was there an allegation that the efforts of the defendants affected the outcome of the election. The indictment, he told reporters, is a reminder that "people are not always who they appear to be." He said the defendants wanted to undermine confidence in our democracy.
"They told him that that the indictments did not allege cooperation or collusion with Trump campaign. "

Soooo... not only is there still zero evidence of any trump campaign wrong doing, but wtf is the charge against these 13 russians?

"Working with the Internet Research Agency, the defendants "posted derogatory information" about several candidates, the indictment says, and by mid-2016, their efforts included "supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaging Hillary Clinton," the indictment says. Beginning in April, 2016, the defendants concealed their identities in order to purchase political advertisements on U.S. social media and other online sites. These ads were paid for using Russian bank accounts and registered in the names of fictitious U.S. residents."

Ok, so marketing under a fake name is apparently now a crime.
1   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 16, 3:44pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The FBI: "Fuck the Children; Protect the Clintons"
2   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 16, 3:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
Ok, so marketing under a fake name is apparently now a crime.


Try reading the article or the indictment. The indictment lays out what they are charged with including title and section of the US code. Yes, violating campaign laws is a crime the same as it always was. Did you think it wasn't somehow just because russians were involved?

CBOEtrader says

Soooo... not only is there still zero evidence of any trump campaign wrong doing, but wtf is the charge against these 13 russians?


Why are these related in your mind?
3   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 16, 3:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
oooo... not only is there still zero evidence of any trump campaign wrong doing, but wtf is the charge against these 13 russians?


So this is a separate indictment and does not include any American. The probe against collusion goes on.
4   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 16, 3:59pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
Try reading the article or the indictment.


Ok Bob, enlighten us as to how marketing is somehow a campaign law violation.

If lying about a presidential candidate is a crime, when can we expect CNN executive indictment?
5   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 16, 4:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Concealing identity to buy ads is what most PACs are formed for.

"This attack ad on Politician paid for by Large Banks, H1-B Coolie Contractors, and Illegal Employers Concerned Citizens For America."
6   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (32)   2018 Feb 16, 5:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Like all laundering enterprises, the forensic narrative is only exposed by the relationships expressed between the layers of the enterprise that effect the termination of illicit proceeds into the legitimate economy.

In this case, however, the proceeds to Trump arrive as part of the revenue stream as expressed in sales of overpriced condos and, in 2016, as in kind services for the benefit of his campaign.

Like all clowns who think they're playing the mob, the mob has the script nailed long before the clown came along.

Mueller's indictment cascade will likely fall in three stages:

Campaign intervention enterprises directed by state-sponsored actors.

Coordination of campaign intervention enterprises between 2016 Trump Campaign and FSB operatives.

Integration of the Trump Organization and FSB operatives and correspondents.

The closer Mueller comes to closing the larger, older circuits in the forensic narrative, the more likely he comes to driving Trump to the bench to negotiate a plea.
7   willywonka   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 16, 5:46pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

How is this any different than folks here who had posted anti-Hillary stuff and ..... Hey, wait a minute!
8   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 16, 6:19pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Trump collusion is a giant failed conspiracy theory.

The election fraud report, as commissioned by trump's executive order, is coming out early march.
9   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Feb 16, 6:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
Did you think it wasn't somehow just because russians were involved?


How many Russians were working in Trump's campaign?
10   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Feb 16, 6:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Tim Aurora says
So this is a separate indictment and does not include any American. The probe against collusion goes on.


yes it does, maybe some decade they MIGHT find something on Trump's people.
11   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 16, 6:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

For me,it's always has been about money laundering,tax evasion,fraud.
I have no problem with Trump being innocent of collusion.

He's GUILTY of being a 5 time DRAFT DODGER,admitted sexual harasser,adulterer & teller of fibs.
His voters are GUILTY of electing trash.
12   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 16, 7:00pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Whereas Clinton got no deferments and won 3 purple hearts, a CIB, and a Bronze Star when he volunteered for the Infantry.
14   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 16, 8:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

wtf?????? 30 million and these nutjobs file indictments against online trolls?????? WTF is wrong with this country????????????

Muelelr needs to be indicted first-this is ridiculous. So if someone from America posts online about Russia-will the KGB indict them??? WTF
15   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 16, 8:46pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

lostand confused says
30 million and these nutjobs file indictments against online trolls??????


Haha have you seen the numbers? The 13 Russian trolls reached 11.4 million people via FB ads... depending on the ad's efficacy, that should cost maybe $50k.

HRC spent $1.5 billion, with CNN and every other MSM rag shilling for her... and these tards think a $50k investment into FB ads is a problem. So weak.
16   HEYYOU   ignore (16)   2018 Feb 17, 8:53am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

lostand confused says
WTF is wrong with this country????????????


Republicans & Democrats.
17   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 17, 9:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
reached 11.4 million people via FB ads... depending on the ad's efficacy, that should cost maybe $50k.

You really think Russia only spent $50k?
18   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 17, 10:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says

How many Russians were working in Trump's campaign?


That's what Mueller is trying to find out.
19   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 17, 11:07am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anon_3b28c says
Sniper says

How many Russians were working in Trump's campaign?


That's what Mueller is trying to find out.


These indictments are very interesting. I wonder if Mueller has played a round or two of 17D chess. Is that "check" he just called back to Trump?
20   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 17, 11:41am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HEYYOU says
lostand confused says
WTF is wrong with this country????????????


Republicans & Democrats.


Then why vote for either. Go libertarian!

anon_61c8a says
You really think Russia only spent $50k?


This wasn't "russia". This was 13 Russia nationals. The indictment claims they were spending $1.25 million/ month on their operation. The ads they mention would absolutely not cost more than $100k max, so I estimated $50k.

This is a tiny fraction of what open society (funded by George Soros' s billions) pays to influence our elections. How is open society totes cool, but this tiny 13 Russian operation is somehow illegal?
21   CajunSteve   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 17, 2:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
This wasn't "russia". This was 13 Russia nationals.


Don't be silly. These people were paid by the government. That has been well established.
22   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 17, 2:20pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CajunSteve says
That has been well established.


No, your assumptions have not been established. Turn off the CNN dude, its lying to you.
23   CajunSteve   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 17, 2:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
No, your assumptions have not been established. Turn off the CNN dude, its lying to you.


Of course it has.

"The indictment charges 13 Russian nationals and three businesses – including an internet firm tied to the Kremlin – with conspiracy, identity theft, and failing to register as foreign agents."
24   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 17, 2:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

a statement requires proof, or perhaps some evidence, to be considered established.

I am certainly not saying they arent Russian agents. I am absolutely saying the MSM garbage will spin this to their narrative, which is all a lie. Here's an example: https://twitter.com/robjective/status/964680123885613056
"The majority of the Russian ad spend happened AFTER the election. We shared that fact, but very few outlets have covered it because it doesn’t align with the main media narrative of Tump and the election."

Also, from the indictment, the ads resulted in 11.4 million impressions. Do you have any idea how weak that is? If this was a Russian plot, it was a YUGE failure. If this was a group of random trolls, it was still weak.

My favorite part of the indictment was how the russian trolls mentioned they liked "Trump and Sanders". So they are bipartisan trolls at least :) TBF, who can blame them. HRC wanted ww3 w russia, whereas both Trump and Sanders wanted peace.

I still dont see how this can be considered a crime.
25   CajunSteve   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 17, 2:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

So are you still arguing that it wasn't the Russian government? Or have you changed subjects to admit that it was the government but try to imply that it didn't change the results of the election?
26   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Feb 17, 2:46pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
My favorite part of the indictment was how the russian trolls mentioned they liked "Trump and Sanders". So they are bipartisan trolls at least :) TBF, who can blame them. HRC wanted ww3 w russia, whereas both Trump and Sanders wanted peace.


Does that mean when Trump gets indicted for Russian collusion, Bernie gets indicted too, since they BOTH benefited from these Russian trolls?
27   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Feb 17, 2:46pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anon_3b28c says
Sniper says

How many Russians were working in Trump's campaign?


That's what Mueller is trying to find out.


How many more years should it take to go over Trump's list of campaign workers to see which one is Russian?
28   CajunSteve   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 17, 2:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says
How many more years should it take to go over Trump's list of campaign workers to see which one is Russian?


I don't imagine Trump would publicly list the Russian operatives working for him.

But, in the past, these types of investigations take 3+ years typically.
29   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Feb 17, 5:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CajunSteve says
Sniper says
How many more years should it take to go over Trump's list of campaign workers to see which one is Russian?


I don't imagine Trump would publicly list the Russian operatives working for him.


So. it's really that hard to figure out where the paychecks from the campaign went?
30   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 17, 8:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
bob2356 says
Try reading the article or the indictment.


Ok Bob, enlighten us as to how marketing is somehow a campaign law violation.


The link to the indictment is right in the article. Click on it. Then go look up the statutes for each count in the federal register. I wouldn't dream of denying you the opportunity to embark on a voyage of discovery allowing you to improve your knowledge of the laws and legal system you live under. Enlightenment is a wonderful thing.

CBOEtrader says
This wasn't "russia". This was 13 Russia nationals. The indictment claims they were spending $1.25 million/ month on their operation. The ads they mention would absolutely not cost more than $100k max, so I estimated $50k.


Mueller shared all the financial records from the investigation with you? Including all the ad purchases? That was certainly nice of him. Are you some kind of special friend? Can you post them for us to see also or did Robert ask you to keep them to yourself?




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