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Illegal immigrants photographed in McAllen, Texas, as they try to outrun border patrol

By someone else following x   2018 Feb 23, 3:56pm 1,287 views   17 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5424093/Mexican-illegal-immigrants-hunted-border-control-agents.html

Lots of interesting photos.

I know these guys are just trying to make money by breaking our laws, but the real criminals are their US employers. Employers of illegals get away with undercutting American wages and labor laws, directly harming millions of American citizens. Please don't go on about how "no US citizen wants those jobs". The truth is that US citizens don't want to compete with illegal immigrants to see who will accept the lower wages. Citizens will pick strawberries if you pay them enough. Hell, I'll do it for a certain price.

We need hard jail time for employers of illegals. It would be far more effective than mere wall. I'd like to hear Trump propose that.

1   WildMind   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 23, 4:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The little Mexican girls in the American flag T-shirt’s choked me up a bit. I think of my daughter and her innocence and no knowledge of politics at 4. How filled with hope of a better life she was promised by her parents... and the fear she is probably going through now. It’s just sad.
2   DASKAA   ignore (3)   2018 Feb 23, 4:48pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Feux Follets says
"Hell, I'll do it for a certain price."

$20 an hour minimum, water breaks every hour, rest period every two hours, minimum half hour for lunch. No work if the temp is 95 or above and shaded rest area required.

It's fucking backbreaking work being bent over all day long, same for picking potatoes by hand. I've done both - it is not fun or easy even for an hour.

Are the consumers willing to pay the increased cost in the produce to support living wages and work conditions ?


Picking potatoes by hand is idiotic: it's done by the fucking machines.
3   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 23, 5:13pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WildMind says
The little Mexican girls in the American flag T-shirt’s choked me up a bit. I think of my daughter and her innocence and no knowledge of politics at 4. How filled with hope of a better life she was promised by her parents... and the fear she is probably going through now. It’s just sad.


Of course. And that feeling is abused by the employers who are exploiting them and betraying American citizens.

And so they fund npr as long as npr broadcasts at least two human interest stories about illegals every day and never talks about the harm that illegal employers do to equally deserving poor Americans.

The moment that npr shows sympathy for a poor American girl, their funding will be cut off.
4   justme   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 23, 5:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Look at those trigger-happy helicopter jockeys HUNTING for illegal immigrants with helicopters and weapons pointed out the door. Disgusting. It looks like Iraq or Vietnam, both places that never should have happened. Is border patrol the new retirement scheme for the US Army?
5   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 23, 5:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
The moment that npr shows sympathy for a poor American girl, their funding will be cut off.


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6   DASKAA   ignore (3)   2018 Feb 24, 4:39am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Feux Follets says
Satoshi_Nakamoto says

Picking potatoes by hand is idiotic: it's done by the fucking machines.

No - not "everywhere".

Both can be harvested by machine but this is not universal.


It should be universal. If even fucking USSR with all its slave labor did it with machines there is no fucking reason to keep doing it here manually almost 30 years later.

Except for justifying importing more Dem voters from the 3rd-world countries that is.
7   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 24, 6:55am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
If even fucking USSR with all its slave labor did it with machines

Soviet joke: Q. what is incapable of noisy potato picking? A. Machine for simultaneous making noise and picking potatoes made in USSR.
8   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 24, 6:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

someone else says
It would be far more effective than mere wall. I'd like to hear Trump propose that.

Sadly, nothing will be done. E-verify exists, and despite grand posturing, none of R presidents/administrations have done anything to mandate its use. Trump himself hires H visa holders for his hotels - while this is not illegal, I doubt that hotel workers need qualifications that are not available in US.
9   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 24, 8:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Except for justifying importing more Dem voters from the 3rd-world countries that is.


They are only dem voters after they get citizenship. Damn those dems sure are long term thinkers bringing in people who won't be able to vote for decades into the future if ever. Good thing republicans aren't bringing them in to exploit them as cheap labor to make bigger profits while displacing american workers. That couldn't possibly have anything to do with it.
10   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 24, 8:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

justme says
Both can be harvested by machine but this is not universal.


If using illegals is cheaper than using a machine then illegals get used. I've seen foundations dug by hand in cameron county (which include mcallen) because it's cheaper than hiring a back hoe. My plumbing contractor hired 4 illegals to dig a new sewer line from my house to the street because it was cheaper.
11   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 24, 8:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

drB6 says
someone else says
It would be far more effective than mere wall. I'd like to hear Trump propose that.

Sadly, nothing will be done. E-verify exists, and despite grand posturing, none of R presidents/administrations have done anything to mandate its use. Trump himself hires H visa holders for his hotels - while this is not illegal, I doubt that hotel workers need qualifications that are not available in US.


If any US citizen can fill these jobs then it seems that it should be illegal. In any case it is just as bad as hiring illegals.
12   justme   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 24, 1:34pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anon_23b8e says
justme says
Both can be harvested by machine but this is not universal.


If using illegals is cheaper than using a machine then illegals get used. I've seen foundations dug by hand in cameron county (which include mcallen) because it's cheaper than hiring a back hoe. My plumbing contractor hired 4 illegals to dig a new sewer line from my house to the street because it was cheaper.


Not sure why my username appears in that quote. Bug, @patrick ?
13   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 24, 1:40pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yes, it's kind of a bug. Looks like they selected that text and then hit "quote" on your comment, just above that comment, which will cause that effect.

I suppose I should make all "quote" links apply only to the text of its own comment, but it's a bit more complicated than what I do now.
14   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 24, 2:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Feux Follets says
Satoshi_Nakamoto says

Picking potatoes by hand is idiotic: it's done by the fucking machines.

No - not "everywhere".

Both can be harvested by machine but this is not universal.


It should be universal. If even fucking USSR with all its slave labor did it with machines there is no fucking reason to keep doing it here manually almost 30 years later.

Except for justifying importing more Dem voters from the 3rd-world countries that is.


Some machines (which would lay idle 11 - 10 months of the year) are better rented. If you can rent the machine for 6k ($600 hr for 10 hrs) or hire 50 guys for 10 hrs at $5.20 per hour ($5,200) why would you ever use the machine?
15   DASKAA   ignore (3)   2018 Feb 24, 3:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anon_d06f9 says
Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Feux Follets says
Satoshi_Nakamoto says

Picking potatoes by hand is idiotic: it's done by the fucking machines.

No - not "everywhere".

Both can be harvested by machine but this is not universal.


It should be universal. If even fucking USSR with all its slave labor did it with machines there is no fucking reason to keep doing it here manually almost 30 years later.

Except for justifying importing more Dem voters from the 3rd-world countries that is.


Some machines (which would lay idle 11 - 10 months of the year) are better rented. If you can rent the machine for 6k ($600 hr for 10 hrs) or hire 50 guys for 10 hrs at $5.20 per hour ($5,200) why would you ever use the machine?


Thanks for reiterating the problem the open borders present.

And we both know that the final cost of these "guys" to the society is way over $5.20 per hour they spend bended over on these potato fields.
16   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 24, 6:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Feux Follets says
As well as the importers of fine produce everywhere to keep out prices low and people in slavery like conditions for as long as they may live.


As Chavez says, as long as California Agra demands cheap labor, they'll abuse Mexicans.
17   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Feb 24, 6:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

By the way, I talked to an old Oregonian the other day. He told me during WW2 was he was a kid, he used to pick peas in the Willamette Valley for 20 cents an hour, and the farmers used to bitch about how expensive it was. The minimum wage was about 25 cents back then.

Of course, to get $2 working from sun up to sun down was a huge deal back then, especially for somebody whose first memories was the depression.




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