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Twitter and YouTube political censorship draws lawsuits

By Patrick following x   2018 Mar 4, 9:51am 2,462 views   64 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


https://www.theguardian.com/the-chain/2018/mar/04/alt-right-big-tech-censorship-lawsuits

The plaintiffs claim that they are the victims of discrimination as a result of their conservative viewpoint, and make further arguments that YouTube has breached its contracts and injured their business.

More recently, similar suits have been filed against Twitter by users farther out on the right.

Johnson’s case runs over some of the same points as Prager U’s. Filings say that Twitter is a public forum, in its materials and promotions it says as much, and in this role it has an “almost monopolistic presence”. It also says that Johnson’s ban is a “political hit job”.

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25   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 6, 6:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

8. IQ varies considerably by race.
9. Islam demands the murder of all those who do not submit to it or pay an annual ransom (the Jizya).
10. Saudi Arabia attacked America on 9/11 and got away with it, with help from George W. Bush.
26   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 6, 6:34pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Where are Liberals censoring these easily provable facts?

Where are Conservatives promoting them in the name of Free Speech?


These facts are censored by the NYTimes, WaPo, NPR, CNN, in fact all of the legacy media in America. In addition, they are being censored by Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and Google as documented above.

The censorship in the media is nearly total.

The only place you can hear these censored facts is on Reddit, or on small websites like this one, or unfortunately on some wacko sites like Infowars.
27   FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 7, 5:36am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
The only place you can hear these censored facts is on Reddit, or on small websites like this one, or unfortunately on some wacko sites like Infowars.


So how does one separate these censored facts from the rest of the shit that appears on these sites?

For example there is a post at this site that is trying to state that ONLY the left is violent. This means the right is NEVER violent. Are we supposed to believe this as fact or is the original poster just trying to be divisive?

Maybe it's best to take EVERY form of media with a grain of salt?
28   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 7, 7:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The solution probably involves you removing elongated object from your rectum.

FPBT says
Patrick says
The only place you can hear these censored facts is on Reddit, or on small websites like this one, or unfortunately on some wacko sites like Infowars.


So how does one separate these censored facts from the rest of the shit that appears on these sites?

For example there is a post at this site that is trying to state that ONLY the left is violent. This means the right is NEVER violent. Are we supposed to believe this as fact or is the original poster just trying to be divisive?

Maybe it's best to take EVERY form of media with a grain of salt?
29   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 7, 7:48am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It remains true that ALL political violence in the US is from the left.

Please examine your own well justified gut fear of wearing a MAGA hat in public. What does your fear tell you?

It tells you the truth that you would be in great physical danger from leftists.

Note that there is no similar danger from wearing any leftist piece of clothing.

QED
30   FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 7, 7:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CovfefeButDeadly says
The solution probably involves you removing elongated object from your rectum.


Personal attacks ok here now?
31   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 7, 7:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FPBT says
CovfefeButDeadly says
The solution probably involves you removing elongated object from your rectum.


Personal attacks ok here now?


I thought I was offering helpful advice.
32   FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 7, 7:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
It remains true that ALL political violence in the US is from the left.

No it does not


QED
33   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 7, 7:54am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says


1. Unfair trade with China and Mexico has devastated the working class, especially poor whites.
2. The press and Universities demonize white people as racist so that they do not have to feel guilty for effectively murdering vast numbers of them.
3. White people in aggregate are provably the least racist people on earth, yet are portrayed as the most by the press.
4. Black people are not oppressed in any way, and are actually less likely to be shot by the police than white people in the same circumstance.
5. Illegals are here illegally.
6. Illegals force down wages for US citizens, in particular for black people.
7. Men and women inherently think very differently.
8. IQ varies considerably by race.
9. Islam demands the murder of all those who do not submit to it or pay an annual ransom (the Jizya).
10. Saudi Arabia attacked America on 9/11 and got away with it, with help from George W. Bush.


Fact Check: True
34   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 7, 9:21am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
10. Saudi Arabia attacked America on 9/11 and got away with it, with help from George W. Bush.


"Presidential" isnt a good thing. See the entire Bush family examples.

As Trump said, "it's easier to be presidential than to do what I do."
35   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 7, 9:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
10. Saudi Arabia attacked America on 9/11 and got away with it, with help from George W. Bush.


"Presidential" isnt a food thing. See the entire Bush family examples.

As Trump said, "it's easier to be presidential than to do what I do."


Agreed.
36   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 7, 9:52am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
10. Saudi Arabia attacked America on 9/11 and got away with it, with help from George W. Bush.


"Presidential" isnt a food thing. See the entire Bush family examples.

As Trump said, "it's easier to be presidential than to do what I do."


Sorry @CBOETrader, I don't follow. That's Patrick's list, and I don't see the connection? I think your making an interesting point, but I'm not following the chain.
37   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 7, 10:02am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The press and Universities demonize white people as racist so that they do not have to feel guilty for effectively murdering vast numbers of them.


Murdering vast numbers of them? Do you have any proof of this or is it just more gaslighting that’s become so common
38   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 7, 10:23am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
CBOEtrader says
TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
10. Saudi Arabia attacked America on 9/11 and got away with it, with help from George W. Bush.


"Presidential" isnt a food thing. See the entire Bush family examples.

As Trump said, "it's easier to be presidential than to do what I do."


Sorry @CBOETrader, I don't follow. That's Patrick's list, and I don't see the connection? I think your making an interesting point, but I'm not following the chain.


Bush was presidential. He led us into 2 wars, both via manipulation. Then used the threat of these wars to implement the patriot act AKA the worst legislation ever passed in the USA.

Obama was presidential. He started 3 more wars, and blew the doors open for weaponizing the IRS/FISA courts/DOJ to enforce his mob rules.

Both these presidents ignored their platforms, and immediately became war hawks with no respect for individual rights (especially to privacy from govt intrusion), and further consolidated centralized federal govt powers. Both seemed to support our enemies and push for perennial war. Both sold out our workers for their billionaire handlers.

Trump, otoh, is not presidential. Meanwhile, he is bringing peace where other POTUS's would start wars. He is destroying our enemies. He is negotiating better trade deals for the american worker. He is pushing for term limits, and generally giving rights back to states.

It is far more difficult to do what trump does, than to be presidential.

In fact, I dont want another fake presidential potus. Those guys are all actors, bought and paid for billionaire handlers.
39   HEYYOU   ignore (18)   2018 Aug 7, 11:32am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Unregulated Free Market corporations don't have to bake a cake for tender sensibility Republicans.
They don't have to be a platform for Racist Nazis, President Traitor & his Russian loving supporters.

Stupid fucks can't tell private social media what they can do. They don't like it,start a Right wingnut site to post all Rep/Con shit.
All the talking heads will post on it. Hannity,Alex Jones,patrick.net Right wingnuts,etc. Putin may post there too.

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
but I'm not following the chain.


There's that lack of cognitive function! roflmao
40   HEYYOU   ignore (18)   2018 Aug 7, 11:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

George @ comment 1,

White Trash Rep/Con Racist calling police on Blacks residents in their neighbor, Blacks in public parks,Blacks walking in public, a black child mowing some of an assholes grass.
"what the actual fucking fuck"

Fuck you George!

ThreeBays says
In order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance.


If all Republicans & Democrats DIE! We would still have intolerance,but a lot of stupid would be eliminated.
41   marcus   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 7, 11:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
1. Unfair trade with China and Mexico has devastated the working class, especially poor whites.
2. The press and Universities demonize white people as racist so that they do not have to feel guilty for effectively murdering vast numbers of them.
3. White people in aggregate are provably the least racist people on earth, yet are portrayed as the most by the press.
4. Black people are not oppressed in any way, and are actually less likely to be shot by the police than white people in the same circumstance.
5. Illegals are here illegally.
6. Illegals force down wages for US citizens, in particular for black people.
8. IQ varies considerably by race.


In my opinion there is a lot of emotion and bias underneath these "facts"

Regarding #2. I have a problem with the identity politics promulgated by universities these days. But I would never frame it or express it this way. It's institutional racism that they claim to fight, and they aren't completely wrong. But the focus on it and attempts to directly address it, is just as bad as the other extreme (i.e. your focus).

I'll refrain from addressing each of the others, but suffice it to say it goes a very long way towards explaining the real reasons that you like Trump.

#4, wtf ?
42   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 7, 11:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says

It is far more difficult to do what trump does, than to be presidential.

In fact, I dont want another fake presidential potus. Those guys are all actors, bought and paid for billionaire handlers.


Got it! Yes, I agree, 100%.

Trump made fun of this in Tampa a few days ago.

NeverTrumper Tone Trolls just don't want his policy, the Tone is BS. W was goofy as fuck, even though he tried hard at the "Presidential Thing" but he gave them their wars, so they never complained about "Tone"
43   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 7, 12:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Bush was presidential. He led us into 2 wars, both via manipulation. Then used the threat of these wars to implement the patriot act AKA the worst legislation ever passed in the USA.


He led us into 2 wars via manipulation but the problem was that he was presidential?
How about: the problem was that he lied and the problem with Trump is that he lies even more (though maybe about more trivial things).
44   FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 7, 12:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
#4, wtf ?


I'm sorry but it seems like someone is losing it.
45   komputodo   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 7, 12:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Aphroman says
To each their own


Technically, that should be "To each his own", since each is singular and the default pronoun in English is he/him/his.


Or maybe "to all, their own?..I don't know...I just have a high school education.
46   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 7, 2:57pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
Trump is that he lies even more (though maybe about more trivial things).


I dont care about trivial things. By definition, neither should you. I dont care if Trump declares something a record, when in fact it is merely the best in 20 years...or whatever snopes is defining as 5 pinocchios.

I care about POTUS who follows the platform he promised, doesnt go to war, and protects the american middle class.

Heraclitusstudent says
but the problem was that he was presidential?


No he happened to be presidential AND he did those things. Not being presidential is a criticism of Trump. My point is, I dont care and neither should anyone else.

It's easy to appear presidential when your administration is working for their establishment handlers (like BO for example).
47   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 7, 3:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FPBT says
marcus says
#4, wtf ?


I'm sorry but it seems like someone is losing it.


He's right, the only real data study done showed that blacks are less likely getting shot despite having more contact with the police.
48   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 7, 5:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
but suffice it to say it goes a very long way towards explaining the real reasons that you like Trump.


The fact that facts bother you goes a long way to explaining why you are anti-Trump
49   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 7, 5:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
FPBT says
marcus says
#4, wtf ?


I'm sorry but it seems like someone is losing it.


He's right, the only real data study done showed that blacks are less likely getting shot despite having more contact with the police.


I think the study suggested less likely per incident w the cops, not less likely overall.
50   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 7, 6:58pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
I think the study suggested less likely per incident w the cops, not less likely overall.


Yeah, and that's still surprising because if you "assume" that they single out blacks in the first place you would also expect a higher percentage of gun involvement, but there wasn't. This throws out the case for "racism". Not to mention that many cops nowadays are "minorities" themselves.
51   FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 7, 8:29pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
4. Black people are not oppressed in any way, and are actually less likely to be shot by the police than white people in the same circumstance.


Again, not true. When the circumstance is not having any kind of weapon or not attacking anyone at the time. In both these circumstances blacks are more likely to be shot by police.

From the independent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/black-americans-shot-dead-police-shooting-twice-likely-white-people-us-african-american-a7567471.html

But 93 of the total of 990 fatal police shootings – just under 10 per cent – did not have any kind of weapon.
Fifteen per cent of black people killed were not carrying a weapon at the time, compared to six per cent of whites and 11 per cent of other minority groups.

Twenty-four per cent of the black people shot dead were not attacking anyone at the time, compared to 17 per cent of the white people and 31 per cent of non-black people from other ethnic groups.
52   FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 7, 8:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
you would also expect a higher percentage of gun involvement

You can't lock them up if they're dead.
53   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 7, 9:35pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
The press and Universities demonize white people as racist so that they do not have to feel guilty for effectively murdering vast numbers of them.


Murdering vast numbers of them? Do you have any proof of this or is it just more gaslighting that’s become so common


I'm glad you asked:

54   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 7, 9:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Aphroman says
The press and Universities demonize white people as racist so that they do not have to feel guilty for effectively murdering vast numbers of them.


Murdering vast numbers of them? Do you have any proof of this or is it just more gaslighting that’s become so common


I'm glad you asked:



I’m missing the part where you connect these murders to The Press and Universities?
55   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 7, 9:43pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Well, the outsourcing of most US manufacturing left all those guys with nothing to do, not even service jobs since the illegals get those.

The press and universities are firmly on the side of Wall Street, approving wholeheartedly of this mass export of jobs and telling the public that it was a good thing.

The press = professors = Wall Street = Democratic party. They are all the same people, tightly intermarried, united by their contempt for poor white people.
56   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 7, 9:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Well, the outsourcing of most US manufacturing left all those guys with nothing to do, not even service jobs since the illegals get those.

The press and universities are firmly on the side of Wall Street, approving wholeheartedly of this mass export of jobs and telling the public that it was a good thing.

The press = professors = Wall Street = Democratic party. They are all the same people, tightly intermarried, united by their contempt for poor white people.


Well i appreciate the attempt at an answer

Liberals liberlas have gone completely insane. The perpetual victimhood is disgusting to watch. Hopefully people regain their senses, because this sure feels like Idiocracy

Jesus fucking christ
57   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 7, 9:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Well, the outsourcing of most US manufacturing left all those guys with nothing to do, not even service jobs since the illegals get those.

The press and universities are firmly on the side of Wall Street, approving wholeheartedly of this mass export of jobs and telling the public that it was a good thing.

The press = professors = Wall Street = Democratic party. They are all the same people, tightly intermarried, united by their contempt for poor white people.


So knowing these truths now what should we do?

Death penalty for all press, professors, Wall Street and Democrats?
58   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 7, 10:01pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

No violence please. Only leftists advocate violence these days.

What we should do is defy all attempts at censorship politely but with unwavering determination.

Post on social media, write letters to the editor, use grafitti, propagate memes, get your own web server and start a site!

And most of all: vote for anyone out of the ordinary. The ordinary politician is the problem, mired in corruption and rationalizations for corruption. Trump is good for America mostly because he's not part of the same old crowd.
59   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 7, 10:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
No violence please. Only leftists advocate violence these days.

What we should do is defy all attempts at censorship politely but with unwavering determination.

Post on social media, write letters to the editor, use grafitti, propagate memes, get your own web server and start a site!

And most of all: vote for anyone out of the ordinary. The ordinary politician is the problem, mired in corruption and rationalizations for corruption. Trump is good for America mostly because he's not part of the same old crowd.


Do you feel guilty for your role in those murders?

You’re a university guy, and utilize that piece of paper they gave you to this day

Friendly to the press, by posting their links on your site and propagating our emails with their links for years

Wall Street, you advocate and own stocks so you’re a Wall Street guy too

Democrat, well you voted for Obama twice and i remember you constantly defended him and often said Obama was “doing a good job”


How does that jive?
60   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 7, 10:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
No violence please. Only leftists advocate violence these days.

What we should do is defy all attempts at censorship politely but with unwavering determination.

Post on social media, write letters to the editor, use grafitti, propagate memes, get your own web server and start a site!

And most of all: vote for anyone out of the ordinary. The ordinary politician is the problem, mired in corruption and rationalizations for corruption. Trump is good for America mostly because he's not part of the same old crowd.


Do you believe that is fair punishment for murder?
61   FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 8, 7:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
What we should do is defy all attempts at censorship politely but with unwavering determination.


I have tried but I still get censored at this site. If you are against censorship then why is it practiced here? Look at my email address, you will recognize it, scratch your head and wonder, how did he sign up again with that email address. Are you going to Censor this account too?
62   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 8, 7:24am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I remember thinking it very odd that the culture in Ann Arbor seemed dedicated to undermining the country and the economic system that gave them all jobs. I started out at Notre Dame, which was of course quite Catholic and much more conservative, so it was a bit of a shock to transfer to UM Ann Arbor. At least engineering school is pretty much apolitical.

The housing newslinks were selected specifically to help people avoid the trap of mortgage debt, so I feel pretty good about those.

The stock market does worry me at times, like when I make a lot of money just by betting on the right stock. Where did that money come from exactly?

My mother owned a travel agency which was put out of business by people buying airline tickets on the Internet. And I worked on several internet projects which clearly were putting ordinary people out of work, such as one rail freight locator which resulted in a lot of operators being out of a job. And yet, it was still not exporting jobs to China.
63   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 8, 7:40am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
I remember thinking it very odd that the culture in Ann Arbor seemed dedicated to undermining the country and the economic system that gave them all jobs. I started out at Notre Dame, which was of course quite Catholic and much more conservative, so it was a bit of a shock to transfer to UM Ann Arbor. At least engineering school is pretty much apolitical.

The housing newslinks were selected specifically to help people avoid the trap of mortgage debt, so I feel pretty good about those.

The stock market does worry me at times, like when I make a lot of money just by betting on the right stock. Where did that money come from exactly?

My mother owned a travel agency which was put out of business by people buying airline tickets on the Internet. And I worked on several internet projects which clearly were putting ordinary people out of work, such as one rail freight locator which resulted in a lot of operators being out of a job. And yet, it was still not exporting jobs to China.


I love the stock market. The money comes from successful businesses making a profit, or other investors buying shares hoping for the same outcome. Our stock markets aren’t very friendly to freedom, luckily we have Canada for that! God bless Canada

I noticed the one part you didn’t address was that you voted for Obama twice, and defended him here for years. Why is that? Does that make you culpable for the murders?
64   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 8, 7:42am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I thought Obama was out of the ordinary at first, but in the end concluded he was just one more puppet of Wall Street, not willing to change anything.

I would have loved Ross Perot.

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