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In Praise of Sikhs

By someone else following x   2018 Mar 16, 1:18pm 1,093 views   11 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


The Sikh religion evolved out of Hinduism on the northwest border of India as a response to centuries of Muslim invasions of India and the subsequent slaughters of non-Muslims who refused to convert or pay an annual ransom, exactly as Islam commands. So it's a bit sad that Sikhs get lumped in with Muslims and attacked just because the men wear a turban and have a beard which makes them look like Osama.

Their religion is quite reasonable in its fundamental beliefs: there is one God, treat everyone with equal respect (even women and people of other religions, unlike Islam), allow people to choose to leave Sikhism (unlike Islam), make an honest living, give to charity, don't be egotistical, pray, meditate.

They have an emphasis on physical fitness, self defense, and military training, so Sikhs were highly desired by the British military in India. And this emphasis is necessary to this day given that they still mostly live near the border of Pakistan, on both sides of the border. All Sikhs are obligated by the religion to carry a knife with them at all times. I guess they have to check them when they board planes.

I was a bit surprised to hear Harmeet Dhillon, a well-known Republican Sikh lawyer, on NPR yesterday (actually my wife heard it and pointed me to https://kqed.org/news/11656135/trump-in-california-and-harmeet-dhillon-on-life-as-a-san-francisco-republican ). Usually NPR censors all speech which calls attention to the Democratic party's extreme divisiveness by race and gender, but she got a couple of good lines past the censors, no doubt exactly because she is a brown woman, ironically:

"We aren't focused on race and gender and gerrymandering the way the Democrats are."
"The left's occupation of Sacramento."

If you can wade through the initial 5 minutes of the usual NPR self-congratulatory hate for Trump by the interviewers, it's a good interview about growing up Sikh in the US.

I wish Sikhs all the best.

1   crazydesi   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 16, 1:54pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Yes, Sikhs are peace loving people. All the religions in the world say there is only one god, but the interpretation of god in each religion is flawed and it has caused all the conflicts going on in this world. I found a interesting talk by a spiritual organization, whose speaker has lot of good talks on youtube. They are having a live event at Santa Clara convention center and admission is free.

http://svbrahmakumaris.org/
2   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (32)   2018 Mar 16, 6:18pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Monotheism is for ASSHOLES!
3   HEYYOU   ignore (17)   2018 Mar 16, 6:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Believing in something that has no support in reality with the exception of what is in the delusional minds of the easily led,it is their reality, is definitely on my bucket list.
4   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Mar 16, 9:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

If Sikhs are peaceful, why are they required to carry knives?
All religions claim to be peace loving. So why do we have religious wars?
5   KgK one   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 16, 10:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

They did well against Muslims, probably only one. Hinduism allows various paths to evolve without suppression yet still coexist.

Peaceful resolution is preferred but only muslims have powers to defeat or keep christians in check. Christianity when it was in power took over whole world n enslaved them. They did ww1 and 2, american Indians helped new Christians, yet they took their land women n kicked them.out of their own land.

No religion should be allowed to have more than 200 million followers so they don't get too powerful and overpower others.

My be group of few people run the world and people fighting over religion keeps them in power, who knows
6   someone else   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 16, 10:52pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Strategist says
If Sikhs are peaceful, why are they required to carry knives?


Because they have Muslim neighbors.

KgK one says
They did ww1 and 2, american Indians helped new Christians, yet they took their land women n kicked them.out of their own land.


WWI and WWII had nothing to do with Christianity. In fact, the Nazis killed quite a few priests, even German priests who would not support the Nazi party.

The American Indians were 95% dead from smallpox before the Spanish arrived in significant numbers, not that the Spanish treated the survivors well.

The conquest of the Americas was more epidemiologic than military. The primary killer was smallpox, which reached Mexico in 1620. Successive epidemics of various diseases over the next decades reduced the indigenous population from maybe 20 million to about 1.6 million. (Smallpox preceded Pizarro in Peru and had killed the previous emperor; Atahualpa was vulnerable because his claim to the throne was in dispute.) Other European diseases took similar tolls: measles, influenza and typhus were the next biggest killers, followed by diphtheria, malaria, mumps, pertussis, plague, tuberculosis and yellow fever. In aggregate, epidemic diseases reduced the native populations of the Americas by about 95 percent. The only disease of American origin that Columbus's crew apparently brought back to Europe was syphilis.


https://www1.udel.edu/johnmack/frec424/guns_germs_steel.html
7   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 Mar 29, 8:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Thanks to Sikhs. Yesterday in the UK there was a March against Labour Anti-Semitism, many fellow ethno-religious groups were there in support.

The Chairwoman of the Labour Party's Dispute Committee scratched disciplinary action against a Labour Candidate who spread Holocaust Denial links across Labour's internal messaging systems.
8   Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Mar 29, 9:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

someone else says
Strategist says
If Sikhs are peaceful, why are they required to carry knives?


Because they have Muslim neighbors.


Just like why does the US have nuclear missiles? ... to deter the former Soviets and the mainland Chinese.
9   Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Mar 29, 9:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

someone else says
The Sikh religion evolved out of Hinduism


Actually, I'd heard that this wasn't true.

The Sikh faith had actually evolved from a Persian style of Buddhism which got sick and tired of putting up with Islamic crap and decided to learn some martial arts and fight back, kinda like the 'Guardian Angels' when NYC subways were filled with violent gangs which regularly mugged ppl on the way to work and back.

Whereas the Zoroastrian refugees went into hiding, the Persian Buddhists fought back and gave the middle finger to Ali Baba and his forty rapists and murderers. The Sikhs are the decedents of those above ground subway vigilantes.

On the Guardian Angels ...

10   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 29, 10:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Rin says
Sikh faith had actually evolved from a Persian style of Buddhism


@Rin if you have some reference links for this, I'd be very interested in reading them.
11   Rin   ignore (4)   2018 Mar 29, 10:26pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Read it years ago in the library but here's an internet page on it ...

http://www.iranchamber.com/religions/articles/iranians_role_expansion_buddhism.php

Excerpt: "Zandbils, the kings of Zabolestan and Sind who have been erroneously called Zanbils or Zantbils in ancient Persian manuscripts (the last of whom was slain during the third century A.H. by Yaqoub, the Safari ruler), were Iranian Buddha worshipers and the remnants of Indo-Sakki dynasty which stretched from Sistan to Punjab. They were Sakkis of Aryan origin who have presently abandoned their former religion, are living in India and are known as Sekkeh or Sikhs. These were Buddhist immigrants who migrated from Sistan to India and after settling in Punjab they called themselves Singe, Segeh, Sek or Sikh. "

FYI, Aryan in this case means ancient Persian, not Hitler's boys.




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