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The Truth about "Gun Culture" and Homicides
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Ceffer
2018 Mar 24, 11:05pm
Ceffer
2018 Mar 24, 11:05pm
I'm disappointed. I was planning on murdering someone, and now I'm not in the mood any more.
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MrMagic
2018 Mar 25, 9:45am
MrMagic
2018 Mar 25, 9:45am
CovfefeButDeadly says
You win!
The Libbies here just hate FACTS.
I predict there will be no response to this posting.
You win!
The Libbies here just hate FACTS.
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bob2356
2018 Mar 25, 9:54am
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Huh? Why leave out italy, germany, austria, czech, poland, slovakia, denmark, iceland, ireland, uk, norway, croatia, greece, malta, portugal, spain, netherlands, switzerland, australia, nz, japan, south korea, taiwan, israel, etc. that are all below 1? or about 1/3 the murder rate on average of the US WITHOUT black murders. Even going with Belgium, Canada, Finland, or France the murder rate is half of the US without black murders. Triple the murder rate of most of the rest of the first world by the incredibly law abiding middle american public is a SJW fake complaint? ROFLOL. Conservative math strikes again.
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Time to buy more stock in tin foil hat makers.
This puts us well within 1 murder per 100,000 of Belgium, Canada, Finland, or France.
Huh? Why leave out italy, germany, austria, czech, poland, slovakia, denmark, iceland, ireland, uk, norway, croatia, greece, malta, portugal, spain, netherlands, switzerland, australia, nz, japan, south korea, taiwan, israel, etc. that are all below 1? or about 1/3 the murder rate on average of the US WITHOUT black murders. Even going with Belgium, Canada, Finland, or France the murder rate is half of the US without black murders. Triple the murder rate of most of the rest of the first world by the incredibly law abiding middle american public is a SJW fake complaint? ROFLOL. Conservative math strikes again.
TwoScoopsPlissken says
And hopefully set them up for continued exploitation for Globalist and Social Justice Agendas, the unholy alliance of Multinational Corporations and Radical Leftists.
Time to buy more stock in tin foil hat makers.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Mar 25, 10:08am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Mar 25, 10:08am
bob2356 says
Liberal Math strikes again. I know you don't like guns, but with an ex-Black murder rate of 2.5, we're comfortably in the safest 1/3 of all countries.
The world average is 7 murders per 100,000. The Americas average is about 17 per 100,000. We're one third (1/3) of the world average, and one eighth (1/8) of the average for the Americas.
We're less than one single murder from France, Belgium, and other European countries, and maybe "one and a half" murders from places like Denmark - all where guns are heavily regulated and pretty much unobtainable.
Unlike all of them we're multiples the land mass, population size, and of course, our gun ownership is astronomical in comparison.
All of these are facts.
Murder rate runs from about 108 in El Salvador to 0 in Monaco.
So Liberals are basically like a crazy parent who tells you their kid has a problem with video games because they got a 97.5% on a math test, despite goofing off all week long playing a First Person Shooter on their XBox for 20 hours. Whinging he needs to be like Danny the Dane was locked in his room with math textbooks, forbidden the Xbox at all times, and got a 99%. "Why can't you be more like Danny? We gotta take away your Xbox!"
Liberals basically think we're in a crisis because our murder rate is 2.5 with astronomical gun ownership versus 1 for rigidly controlled and regimented Europeans
Huh? Why leave out italy, germany, austria, czech, poland, slovakia, denmark, iceland, ireland, uk, norway, croatia, greece, malta, portugal, spain, netherlands, switzerland, australia, nz, japan, south korea, taiwan, israel, etc. that are all below 1? or about 1/3 the murder rate on average of the US WITHOUT black murders. Even going with Belgium, Canada, Finland, or France the murder rate is half of the US without black murders. Triple the murder rate of most of the rest of the first world by the incredibly law abiding middle american public is a SJW fake complaint? ROFLOL. Conservative math strikes again.
Liberal Math strikes again. I know you don't like guns, but with an ex-Black murder rate of 2.5, we're comfortably in the safest 1/3 of all countries.
The world average is 7 murders per 100,000. The Americas average is about 17 per 100,000. We're one third (1/3) of the world average, and one eighth (1/8) of the average for the Americas.
We're less than one single murder from France, Belgium, and other European countries, and maybe "one and a half" murders from places like Denmark - all where guns are heavily regulated and pretty much unobtainable.
Unlike all of them we're multiples the land mass, population size, and of course, our gun ownership is astronomical in comparison.
All of these are facts.
Murder rate runs from about 108 in El Salvador to 0 in Monaco.
So Liberals are basically like a crazy parent who tells you their kid has a problem with video games because they got a 97.5% on a math test, despite goofing off all week long playing a First Person Shooter on their XBox for 20 hours. Whinging he needs to be like Danny the Dane was locked in his room with math textbooks, forbidden the Xbox at all times, and got a 99%. "Why can't you be more like Danny? We gotta take away your Xbox!"
Liberals basically think we're in a crisis because our murder rate is 2.5 with astronomical gun ownership versus 1 for rigidly controlled and regimented Europeans
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anonymous
2018 Mar 25, 12:57pm
Liberals basically think we're in a crisis because our murder rate is 2.5 with astronomical gun ownership versus 1 for rigidly controlled and regimented Europeans
So GOPe/Libertarians/Conservatives are saying Some Lives Don’t Matter?
So GOPe/Libertarians/Conservatives are saying Some Lives Don’t Matter?
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RWSGFY
2018 Mar 25, 1:09pm
RWSGFY
2018 Mar 25, 1:09pm
errc says
Yep, fucking thugs' lives don't matter. The fucking gangbangers are fucking wasting the fucking oxygen. Here, I said it.
Liberals basically think we're in a crisis because our murder rate is 2.5 with astronomical gun ownership versus 1 for rigidly controlled and regimented Europeans
So GOPe/Libertarians/Conservatives are saying Some Lives Don’t Matter?
Yep, fucking thugs' lives don't matter. The fucking gangbangers are fucking wasting the fucking oxygen. Here, I said it.
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anonymous
2018 Mar 25, 2:06pm
Satoshi_Nakamoto says
How can we rid ourselves of these vermin?
errc saysLiberals basically think we're in a crisis because our murder rate is 2.5 with astronomical gun ownership versus 1 for rigidly controlled and regimented Europeans
So GOPe/Libertarians/Conservatives are saying Some Lives Don’t Matter?
Yep, fucking thugs' lives don't matter. The fucking gangbangers are fucking wasting the fucking oxygen. Here, I said it.
How can we rid ourselves of these vermin?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Mar 25, 2:54pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Mar 25, 2:54pm
errc says
White people interfere: "Don't blame Gun Violence on Gangster Lean!"
White people say Fuck It: "You ignore the plight of the Ghetto! You racists don't care!"
White people leave the city, overrun with thugs and bums: "White Flight! You racists are running away from America's Shared Problems!"
White people come to the city, seeking affordable rents near work and culture: "White Gentrification! You racists are ruining the hood by ramping up rents!"
White people ignore Black Culture: "You White Racists are refusing to engage with Multi Cult Culture! Xenophobe Ignoramouses!"
White people embrace Black Culture: "You White Racists are appropriating our Culture! Go away and Leave our Music alone!
White people don't lend into Black Ghetto: "You White Racists refuse to loan to our Black Community!"
White people lend into Black Ghetto: "White Racist lenders, pawn shops, payday loans, exploiting the Black Community!
Whites are to Blacks what Jews are/were to Central Europeans.
So GOPe/Libertarians/Conservatives are saying Some Lives Don’t Matter?
White people interfere: "Don't blame Gun Violence on Gangster Lean!"
White people say Fuck It: "You ignore the plight of the Ghetto! You racists don't care!"
White people leave the city, overrun with thugs and bums: "White Flight! You racists are running away from America's Shared Problems!"
White people come to the city, seeking affordable rents near work and culture: "White Gentrification! You racists are ruining the hood by ramping up rents!"
White people ignore Black Culture: "You White Racists are refusing to engage with Multi Cult Culture! Xenophobe Ignoramouses!"
White people embrace Black Culture: "You White Racists are appropriating our Culture! Go away and Leave our Music alone!
White people don't lend into Black Ghetto: "You White Racists refuse to loan to our Black Community!"
White people lend into Black Ghetto: "White Racist lenders, pawn shops, payday loans, exploiting the Black Community!
Whites are to Blacks what Jews are/were to Central Europeans.
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bob2356
2018 Mar 25, 4:56pm
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Why would you think I don't like guns? I was a hunter for a long time starting at age 8 and was an NRA member back before it became a front for the gun manufacturers. I don't like who can get guns and how easily they can get guns. Which was the NRA's position originally.
Hey if you believe having triple the murder rate of the rest of the first world AFTER taking out half the murders is a good thing then good for you. Should we drop out murders by repefugees in the rest of the first world and compare again since we a playing statistical games? or even better go to gun deaths (which includes suicides and accidents) and gun homicides for a real comparison. . The US ins't close to being comfortably in the bottom 1/3 for gun deaths.
But hey keep on squeezing the numbers around.
Liberal Math strikes again. I know you don't like guns, but with an ex-Black murder rate of 2.5, we're comfortably in the safest 1/3 of all countries.
Why would you think I don't like guns? I was a hunter for a long time starting at age 8 and was an NRA member back before it became a front for the gun manufacturers. I don't like who can get guns and how easily they can get guns. Which was the NRA's position originally.
Hey if you believe having triple the murder rate of the rest of the first world AFTER taking out half the murders is a good thing then good for you. Should we drop out murders by repefugees in the rest of the first world and compare again since we a playing statistical games? or even better go to gun deaths (which includes suicides and accidents) and gun homicides for a real comparison. . The US ins't close to being comfortably in the bottom 1/3 for gun deaths.
But hey keep on squeezing the numbers around.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Mar 25, 5:46pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Mar 25, 5:46pm
bob2356 says
Yes, after we control for a problematic 3% of the population, the vast majority of whom use weapons obtained illegally by theft, our rate is very low.
Even at 4.9 murders per 100,000, it's below the World Average of 7/100k and still a third of the average of the Americas.
The Far Left is marching in the street with signs blaming Rifles and the NRA, when far and away the #1 murder weapon is a stolen pistol, not Bubba's legally purchased SKS or AR-15.
bob2356 says
I prefer the term "Contextualizing the Facts to Vaccinate Against a Dangerous Moral Panic."
Hey if you believe having triple the murder rate of the rest of the first world AFTER taking out half the murders is a good thing then good for you.
Yes, after we control for a problematic 3% of the population, the vast majority of whom use weapons obtained illegally by theft, our rate is very low.
Even at 4.9 murders per 100,000, it's below the World Average of 7/100k and still a third of the average of the Americas.
The Far Left is marching in the street with signs blaming Rifles and the NRA, when far and away the #1 murder weapon is a stolen pistol, not Bubba's legally purchased SKS or AR-15.
bob2356 says
But hey keep on squeezing the numbers around.
I prefer the term "Contextualizing the Facts to Vaccinate Against a Dangerous Moral Panic."
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zzyzzx
2018 Mar 29, 10:19am
zzyzzx
2018 Mar 29, 10:19am
Speaking of ghetto culture:
www.youtube.com/embed/5U0sui2hknQ
It's like Somalia, only with fatter people.
www.youtube.com/embed/5U0sui2hknQ
It's like Somalia, only with fatter people.
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socal2
2018 Mar 29, 10:49am
bob2356 says
Slovakia? Denmark? Malta, Iceland???
Wouldn't it be more accurate to compare the gun crime rate of these tiny white-bread countries to that of Oregon or Vermont?
Huh? Why leave out italy, germany, austria, czech, poland, slovakia, denmark, iceland, ireland, uk, norway, croatia, greece, malta, portugal, spain, netherlands, switzerland, australia, nz, japan, south korea, taiwan, israel, etc. that are all below 1?
Slovakia? Denmark? Malta, Iceland???
Wouldn't it be more accurate to compare the gun crime rate of these tiny white-bread countries to that of Oregon or Vermont?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Mar 29, 10:56am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Mar 29, 10:56am
No country comes close on gun ownership. Yet we're right on the bottom rungs for murder, even including the Thug Cult 3%.
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HappyGilmore
2018 Mar 29, 11:00am
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Can you link to the source of this graph?
No country comes close on gun ownership. Yet we're right on the bottom rungs for murder, even including the Thug Cult 3%.
Can you link to the source of this graph?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Mar 29, 11:04am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Mar 29, 11:04am
Another Myth: Mass Shootings are higher in the USA. Actually, France is worse, with very strict gun control.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Mar 29, 11:07am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Mar 29, 11:07am
Here is the Murder Rate by Race.
Again keeping in mind the gun ownership rate is 90 guns per 100 people. Nobody else comes close.
So the majority has no problems with firearms and homicide.
Again keeping in mind the gun ownership rate is 90 guns per 100 people. Nobody else comes close.
So the majority has no problems with firearms and homicide.
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RWSGFY
2018 Mar 29, 11:28am
RWSGFY
2018 Mar 29, 11:28am
TwoScoopsPlissken says
It gets more interesting: in a state run by Far Left (CA) stealing a pistol is a misdemeanor while having a wrong type of grip or stock on your legally-purachsed rifle is a fucking felony.
The Far Left is marching in the street with signs blaming Rifles and the NRA, when far and away the #1 murder weapon is a stolen pistol,
It gets more interesting: in a state run by Far Left (CA) stealing a pistol is a misdemeanor while having a wrong type of grip or stock on your legally-purachsed rifle is a fucking felony.
Half of all murders are by blacks, almost wholly concentrated in a handful of urban neighborhoods.
Excluding that, but including everything from School Shootings to Columbia Drug Dealers to Mexican Enforcers to White Power Prison Gangs, to Elmer shooting Roscoe when he caught him in bed of the single wide with Betty Lou, with every kind of weapon or mode of death from firearms to strangulation to arson to knives, the US murder rate is less than 2.5
This puts us well within 1 murder per 100,000 of Belgium, Canada, Finland, or France. Unlike the USA, almost all these countries have stringent anti-gun policies, whereas the US is awash in firearms, particularly rifles and shotguns, which are the least likely to be used in homicides. This ex-Toxic Blackness Rate would also be substantially less than Chile, Thailand, and Latvia.
Compare Central America or Africa which has anywhere from 108 per 100,000 (El Salvador) to 34 (South Africa Kill De Boer)
So there is no "Gun Culture" leading to "Huge Homicide Rates" in the general US Population.
Rather, there is a Ghetto Thug Culture among Blacks in the Inner City, where about 3-4% of the Young Male Black population is responsible for more than half of all murders.
The blaming of "Gun Culture" for the American Homicide Rate is just one more Postmodernist SJW fake complaint used to further demonize the incredibly law abiding Middle American public. And hopefully set them up for continued exploitation for Globalist and Social Justice Agendas, the unholy alliance of Multinational Corporations and Radical Leftists.