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Facebook now hated by the media because it proved that the "Russian collusion" story is false

By someone else following x   2018 Apr 2, 9:28pm 2,759 views   52 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Facebook used to be a media darling, so I was wondering how the media could turn on one of their own so quickly and viciously, and attack it every day since. The answer is simple: the head of Facebook advertising, Rob Goldman, provided public proof that the story about Russian collusion via Facebook was a complete fabrication by the press.

Now the media is painfully embarrassed about being caught in their lie, and this makes them angry at Facebook.

President Trump's weekend tweetstorm included a shout-out to Facebook executive Rob Goldman, who in his own tweets had argued three points that Trump found supportive to his claim that there was no collusion between Russia and Trump's presidential campaign.

1. Most of the 3,300 Russia-linked Facebook ads that the social network discovered and disclosed last fall were designed to sow discord in the U.S. political system, not to swing the 2016 presidential election in Trump's favor.

2. Most of the Russian ad spending occurred after Election Day.

3. The media does not cover these points.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/17/facebooks-vp-of-ads-says-russian-meddling-aimed-to-divide-us.html

What's truly amazing is the inability of the media to admit that the American people elected Trump in a free and fair election. Since their defective candidate lost, they make up fake news and spin in circles looking for someone to blame.

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13   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Apr 3, 9:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

komputodo says
So if you have a deep seated dislike for the clinton crime family and you would vote for ANYONE instead of her, It's because of russian intervention on FB? It's getting more ridiculous day by day.


That's why they say Liberalism is a mental disease.
14   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 3, 9:23am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Zuckerfucker used to be a beloved hero to the AltLeft. Time's Man of the Year.

https://content.time.com/time/person-of-the-year/2010/

Who was the runner-up? Julian Assange, who is now Liberal Enemy #1.
16   marcus   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 3, 8:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

komputodo says
So if you have a deep seated dislike for the clinton crime family and you would vote for ANYONE instead of her, It's because of russian intervention on FB? It's getting more ridiculous day by day.


What if you had only a mild "maybe" belief (opinion ? bias ?) that Clinton is a criminal, and then see several BS facebook stories about her murders, or pizza gate, or whatever, confirming your bias and making you somehow now so opposed to Hillary that you could even vote for Trump, a known pathological liar and blowhard con artist.
17   marcus   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 3, 8:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
So that's why he put out this statement the next day.

“I wanted to apologize for having tweeted my own view about Russian interference without having it reviewed by anyone internally. The tweets were my own personal view and not Facebook’s. I conveyed my view poorly. The Special Counsel has far more information about what happened [than] I do—so seeming to contradict his statements was a serious mistake on my part.

I have seen all the ads Portman said. There were 11 million views on the ads which cost russians 200k. Portman somehow forgot about the 150 million views on russian accounts that they spent 1.25 million A MONTH on. Which the indictment lays out in detail. Whoops.


That's interesting. I've heard what may be nothing more than rumors that the ads were somehow extremely targeted to districts that could help swing key states.

I don't claim to know whether that's true, but if it is, it begs the question, how did they get that info ? IT would be so messed up, if true.
18   bob2356   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 4, 3:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

komputodo says
He said "WE SHARED THAT FACT"...The Special Counsel has far more information about what happened [than] I do—so seeming to contradict his statements was a serious mistake on my part...Yes contradicting the special counsel can be a very dangerous game. So they got to him and now he claims it was just his own "mistaken" view...sounds like he was threatened with job loss or worse. Nothing new here.


They got to him? It sounds like? Another words, it's true because I believe it should be true?
19   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 4, 4:06am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
districts that could help swing key states.

I don't claim to know whether that's true, but if it is, it begs the question, how did they get that info ? IT would be so messed up, if true.


This is readily available info. Anyone who puts $5 into an ad would be able to do this.

The fact is the VP said most ad spend was after the election, so even the framing of this question is inaccurate.

The entire thought thought process is a manufactured narrative.
20   bob2356   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 4, 7:04am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
lol, this is a giant who cares. the saudi prince is spending 3 times as much each day to rent out his 4 seasons hotel during his upcoming LA visit.

Also, what is wrong about FB pages? What exactly is your beef (or Mueller's perhaps)?


ROFLOL. Russian intelligence spending millions on thousands of fake accounts filled with fake news that got millions of views while pretending to be americans to influence the elections is a giant who cares. Soros fully reported contributions to the clinton campaign is the end of the world as we know it level of influence on the election. Who says the right wingnuts have no sense of humour.

How is the search for 8 million illegal votes going? It's been 18 months so it should all be documented and ready to present by now. I would think this would yet be another BOMBSHELL revelation that is going to send Hillary and Obama to jail. Why aren't they in jail already? There has been so many BOMBSHELL revelation of crimes commited by these traitor bastards. WTF has the slacker in the white house been doing? What happenend to proscecuting Hillary the first day of office? Where
s the beef? Hahahahaha.
21   komputodo   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 4, 7:24am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
What if you had only a mild "maybe" belief (opinion ? bias ?) that Clinton is a criminal, and then see several BS facebook stories about her murders, or pizza gate, or whatever, confirming your bias and making you somehow now so opposed to Hillary that you could even vote for Trump, a known pathological liar and blowhard con artist.


ok then, is it only a problem if there was anti-clinton propaganda on FB by russians, or does that also include russian-americans (or for that matter, anyone that posts anti-clinton propaganda)?
22   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 4, 7:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Clinton is a criminal

bob2356 says
Why aren't they in jail already?

Yes, why?
23   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 4, 9:36am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Russian intelligence spending millions on thousands of fake accounts


Source?

bob2356 says
filled with fake news


Again, source? They posted memes, such as jesus armwresting hrc. Memes are not news.

bob2356 says
to influence the elections


You aremaking up a narrative. They were sowing dischord. They posted memes for both sides, mostly done after the election. It looks a lot more like a clickbait business model rather than a psy-op.

bob2356 says
There has been so many BOMBSHELL revelation of


Zero bombshells regarding Trump so far, give it up. You lost. Grow up and move on.
24   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 4, 9:43am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

komputodo says
ok then, is it only a problem if there was anti-clinton propaganda on FB by russians, or does that also include russian-americans (or for that matter, anyone that posts anti-clinton propaganda)?


How about Indian or Nigerian Troll Farms, Bots, and others? Mein Gott there were and are a ton of fake accounts and bots out there for Hillary and the DNC, respectively. Sometimes you had 2000 twitter accounts saying the exact same thing within minutes of each other.
25   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 4, 9:45am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
How is the search for 8 million illegal votes going?


Well, if States like Washington vetted voters instead of using the honor system, we might be able to track it.

Unfortunately, they know that vetting creates evidence, so they don't vet.

"Why would they want to find out?" - Teamster Boss, Casino.
26   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 4, 9:53am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

People are turning on Facebook because it used notions of benign concern, friendship, and positive community values to cynically exploit the people who became involved with it. Sure, they are suckers, but even stupid people and suckers can wake up eventually, and the backlash can be a bitch.
27   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 4, 10:03am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Democrats will not tolerate anyone speaking against their fake news.
33   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 4, 10:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

There was an article saying Trump won't be able to use his Twitter Judo on Amazon/WaPo/Bezos.

Did anybody think a year or so ago, that Facebook would be hated by the Left and fall down to the level of Comcast in the public's regard?

To the contrary, Facebook was getting accolades for their "Fact Checking".

Now look at Youtube. The MSM of course hates youtube because dudes with a cheap embedded laptop camera have more views than some professional programs with million of dollars in salaries and production costs - and in the demographic advertisers care about most. Youtube began hiding content that wasn't advertiser friendly and demonetizing political videos of all kinds because advertisers don't like them, pulling down innocent content like Nasim's because it probably had "Iran" in the title, as in "Iranian Recipes with Dandelion Flowers - So Vegan!".

Youtube is now losing reputation, and fast.

Don't think for a minute Amazon and WaPo can't be brought low.

These things have been perculating a long time, and long periods of inaction are often followed by short periods of intense change and upheaval. We're living in one of those. Yesterday's common wisdom is out the door.

Question Authority, esp. Old Boomers who haven't revisted their attitudes since Mondale ran for President.
35   bob2356   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 4, 11:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
bob2356 says
to influence the elections


You aremaking up a narrative. They were sowing dischord. They posted memes for both sides, mostly done after the election. It looks a lot more like a clickbait business model rather than a psy-op.


Sure, right. After all hillary has such a long history of saying such nice things about russia and Trump didn't spend the whole campaign sucking putin's balls. I'm sure that the only thought the rusisans had was making sure that each candidate was treated equally. ROFLOL.

CBOEtrader says
bob2356 says
There has been so many BOMBSHELL revelation of


Zero bombshells regarding Trump so far, give it up. You lost. Grow up and move on.


Huh, who was talking about trump bombshells?, Trump is one long continuous non stop self bombshell. You guys have been posting about hillary/obama bombshells for almost 2 years. Yet nothing has happened. Doesn't trump care about America? How can he have these two criminals running loose so long. What happened to prosecute criminal hillary the first day in office? Where are all the illegal votes? Where is the wall? Why do we still have obamacare? Why are we still in 2 wars, actually 3 since we are in syra? What happened to the FANTASTIC team of people trump put together to MAGA?

My candidate lost in the republican primary. Hillary and Trump both suck equally. Trump was a fucking joke in the 80's and isn't any better now. Somehow he managed to bankrupt some of the top commercial properties in Manhattan multiple times. Then he bankrupted casino's. A casino is a business where people walk in and hand you money with no expectations of anything in return. How can anyone fuck that up? If it wasn't for daddy's huge bank account and daddy pulling in favors to get a lot of government money for trump projects (trump is just more republican who believes government spending on other people is wasteful) he would be a busboy at margo de lago.

Sorry dude I don't have to move on anywhere. I'm free to point out that trump is a shit president any time I like.
37   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 4, 12:27pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
I'm free to point out that trump is a shit president


Sure, thats an opinion.

OTOH, your entire point above was russia influencing the election via FB bots in favor of trump, which there so far is zero evidence for.

Both FB's and our own GOVT's assessment was that the election was in no way affected. FB VP went so far as to suggest the election could not possibly have been affected given the bipartisan nature and post election timing.

LOLZ at people who think $50k of facebook ads can influence an election.

You are both ignoring the assessment of all the expert opinions we've heard so far AND you are pretending there is evidence which doesnt exist, all the while fantasizing that a tiny operation of rogue internet trolls somehow not only out influenced George Soros's billions, the MSM's straight anti trump propaganda, and HRC's extra $billion spent.... nah $50k of FB meme ads are somehow not just relevant, but the core of Trump's nefarious plans w Putin to usurp power from the rightful HRC heir.

This is such utter stupidity, so hard not to LOLZ at you.
38   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 4, 12:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
LOLZ at people who think $50k of facebook ads can influence an election.

Versus a $1.3B Hillary War chest and a daily ad spend in the millions across every media platform available from billboards to broadcast ads to social media.
39   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 4, 1:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
OTOH, your entire point above was russia influencing the election via FB bots in favor of trump, which there so far is zero evidence for.

Both FB's and our own GOVT's assessment was that the election was in no way affected. FB VP went so far as to suggest the election could not possibly have been affected given the bipartisan nature and post election timing.


https://www.wired.com/story/facebook-executive-rob-goldman-apologizes-to-company-and-robert-mueller/

Rob Goldman jumped the gun. He has no idea what Russia is doing and this is his personal opinion.

On Sunday night, Joel Kaplan, the VP of Global Public Policy at Facebook, put out a statement saying “Nothing we found contradicts the Special Counsel’s indictments. Any suggestion otherwise is wrong.” Roughly translated, that meant, “We asked Rob Goldman to throw his phone in a river.”
40   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 4, 1:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ah, the river in Egypt. They don't have a damned thing on Trump.

They only have a Hail Mary Pass left, which is to get Trump to be interviewed and how they find something, anything, to get him on a Perjury Charge

As any lawyer will tell you, only a retarded person who wants to be unjustly punished agrees to interviews with Federal Investigators.
41   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 4, 2:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Nothing we found contradicts the Special Counsel’s indictments. Any suggestion otherwise is wrong.”


Wow that is sure a bombshell! So Facebook didn’t find any evidence to clear three guys of lying on their taxes and lying to the FBI (about what? Nobody even knows). That’s quite a statement! Not sure what it has to do with anything though!
42   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 4, 4:35pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
He has no idea what Russia is doing and this is his personal opinion.


It is his expert opinion that the FB ads in question could not have influenced the election. We are saying the same thing
43   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 4, 4:53pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
It is his expert opinion that the FB ads in question could not have influenced the election.


Any not just any expert, but the head of Facebook ads.

Either way, most of the ads were placed after the election, and the media still downplays this fact.
44   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 4, 5:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Speaking of Facebook, anybody seen hide nor hair of Sheryl Sandberg? No doubt keeping her distance for her next job at CEO of Google or Apple.
45   someone else   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 5, 10:07am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Leftist media is still very angry at Facebook for proving the Russia story was fraudulent. Another attack on Facebook from the NY Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/03/opinion/facebook-fix-replace.html
46   komputodo   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 5, 2:20pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
I'm free to point out that trump is a shit president


just as the founding fathers intended. I think we learned that in elementary school.
47   komputodo   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 5, 2:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
As any lawyer will tell you, only a retarded person who wants to be unjustly punished agrees to interviews with Federal Investigators.


This is where the morons chime in with " what are you afraid of if you have nothing to hide".
48   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 6, 10:28am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

And now, Facebook has been data mining your Medical Conditions. Turns out they were collaborating with Hospital Groups to collaborate their posts to their Medical Records.

Did you tell anybody about your athlete's foot, complain about your bad back, while writing about your alcohol consumption, etc.?

Remember the "Real Name" campaign to get all Social Media users to use their full name ? That wasn't for abuse, that was for matching data.

Zuckerberg should be nervous, but while Replicants have longer lives these days, but don't have sweat glands.

https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/04/05/1837234/facebook-was-in-talks-with-top-hospitals-until-last-month-to-share-data-of-most-vulnerable-patients
49   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Apr 6, 10:35am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

"It's Possible" Facebook Will Discover More Data Breaches, Sandberg Says.

A day after Facebook admitted that the personal data of up to 87 million users may have been improperly accessed by Cambridge Analytica, COO Sheryl Sandberg admitted during an appearance on the Today Show that it's extremely likely more data breaches will be discovered.

Sandberg also repeated the company line that Facebook "should've checked" - via a data audit - to make sure CA deleted the data which it told Facebook that it had done. The company is now carrying out these audits with many third-party developers who had accessed Facebook's data.

Like Zuckerberg, Sandberg refused to take responsibility for Facebook's handling of the situation - repeatedly insisting the company had been misled.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-06/sheryl-sandberg-its-possible-facebook-will-discover-more-data-breaches
50   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 6, 12:03pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

If anybody believes Facebook was mislead... I have a bridge for sale.

Hopefully somebody will ask about Obama's 2012 Data Usage. It's been leaked that they went much further than Facebook permitted, Facebook found out, and "Forgave" the Obama Campaign. "We're on your side."
51   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Apr 6, 12:26pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
I have a bridge for sale.


If, after learning of all this personal data siphoning by Facebook, if anyone believes it's NOT a NSA or CIA data gathering operation, I have bridge for sale too!

and the craziest part, people voluntarily provided all that data, either by directly entering it in Facebook, or allowing the app to "vacuum" ever piece of data and personal connections on your phone.
52   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 6, 1:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It all reminds me of the naive animals on the Galapagos Islands. When the first humans showed up, they were astonished that the animals had no fear of humans at all. They didn't detect the danger.

Then the humans would rip their heads off and eat their bodies.

Takes a while for evolution/selection to kick in. Basically you have to educate the naive, or let them be wiped out and replaced with animals that are not so naive.

Facebook is the predator, and the users are the idiot animals from the Galapagos.

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