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"Prison" for the homeless. A new idea.


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2018 Apr 5, 10:58am   5,606 views  20 comments

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Republican candidate for California governor, Assemblyman Travis Allen, says the homeless population should be in state-run institutions where they can receive services. Randall Benton The Sacramento Bee

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article207220764.html

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1   Ceffer   2018 Apr 5, 11:12am  

The homeless ambiance is so "California" now. I was at the Boardwalk in Santa Cruz, and watched a grizzled, leering homeless guy screaming obscenities at a volleyball beach babe in a thong. "I hope the rest of it falls off, you fuck!"

The homeless are starting to stake out the rest rooms at the oceanside walks, making them even more high hazard zones to actually defecate. Water fountain? If you want to walk through the homeless guy with all of his junk around it.
2   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 Apr 5, 11:20am  

While its a better solution than ANY Democrat in California has come up with, a better solution is as follows:

1.) End all government run social safety net programs.
2.) Arrest anyone who sleeps/resides on sidewalks, parks, etc. There is no constitutional right to reside in public locations.
3.) Recognize that no one that is urban homeless is doing so only due to free will. Rather there is a blatant unwillingness to engage in modern society and rather than move to a rural area where one can work off the land to feed and shelter oneself, urban homelessness is a concious choice to simply do nothing.
4.) Require mentally ill people comply with a doctors orders. Failure of a diagnosed mentally ill person to take their doctor ordered medication ought to be a civil crime and such a person can be involuntarily committed by a court.

I've already stated here that the homeless issue in California has exploded due to horrible court rulings combined with inaction ONLY by Democrat politicians. The problem disproportionally affects blue collar and poor neighborhoods, demonstrating that Democrats don't actually care about any of these individuals...not the homeless or the poor.
3   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Apr 5, 11:21am  

MoneySheep says
"We need state-run mental institutions where people can actually go, (where) the indigent can go and get the help that they need," Allen said at a housing forum last month. "What we're doing is not working."


Yeah... Restricting housing construction is not working, but... why change that if you can put losers in prison instead?
4   mell   2018 Apr 5, 11:52am  

They will need to do that sooner or later. SF at night has a homeless person sleeping, peeing, shitting, shooting up etc. in every 5th building entrance. And getting worse.
5   RC2006   2018 Apr 5, 12:55pm  

Make CA a living hell for the homeless, same with illegals.
6   Shaman   2018 Apr 5, 12:55pm  

People usually get the government that they deserve.
7   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Apr 5, 1:05pm  

CovfefeButDeadly says
Rather there is a blatant unwillingness to engage in modern society and rather than move to a rural area where one can work off the land to feed and shelter oneself


Nah, if you're poor, there is no available land that you can work off. Land costs a fortune.
You can't build your own rudimentary home on unowned property: there are no unowned properties.
There is no economic liberty to do what our ancestors did.

At best the question you can ask is why do we need illegal immigrants if we have so many useless people? Are they just not desperate enough to do the job?
8   joshuatrio   2018 Apr 5, 1:16pm  

Ceffer says
The homeless ambiance is so "California" now. I was at the Boardwalk in Santa Cruz, and watched a grizzled, leering homeless guy screaming obscenities at a volleyball beach babe in a thong. "I hope the rest of it falls off, you fuck!"

The homeless are starting to stake out the rest rooms at the oceanside walks, making them even more high hazard zones to actually defecate. Water fountain? If you want to walk through the homeless guy with all of his junk around it.


That's exactly how I remember Santa Cruz. What sad is people walk around like nothing is happening.

Reality, it's a beautiful part of the country, but is near third world status for many of the people.
9   Goran_K   2018 Apr 5, 1:32pm  

Allen's idea is nice, but we should go a step further.

Why not create a "Bum Brigade"? A combat ready unit made up of homeless people. 8-10 weeks of basic training, followed by another 6 weeks of small arms tactics.

Send them into combat as peacekeepers, or shock troops. Either way, they'd be earning their 3 squares a day, and lodging.
10   Reality   2018 Apr 5, 1:47pm  

Those institutions can be competitively run, providing residents with food, shelter and job training, perhaps even drugs for adults-only facilities . . . so that the homeless and those on welfare can pick and choose which one to go . . . so they are not prisons but more like assisted living facilities for the those unwilling to work/earn a living.

It's a much more efficient way of taking care of the homeless and preventing street crimes than welfare is. Giving them a basic level of food and sustenance in the facilities is likely less costly than even setting them loose on public land forcing them live off the land . . . simply because modern industrial farming is much more productive than a guy farming with hand tools (even a hard working one, never mind the homeless).

The residents can choose to learn marketable skills, or choose to take opioids that lead to their joyful demise sooner or later. Win-win for everyone involved. The best part is that, the homeless would no longer be in a vulnerable position subject to random violence from each other in the streets.
11   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 Apr 5, 2:24pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
CovfefeButDeadly says
Rather there is a blatant unwillingness to engage in modern society and rather than move to a rural area where one can work off the land to feed and shelter oneself


Nah, if you're poor, there is no available land that you can work off. Land costs a fortune.
You can't build your own rudimentary home on unowned property: there are no unowned properties.
There is no economic liberty to do what our ancestors did.

At best the question you can ask is why do we need illegal immigrants if we have so many useless people? Are they just not desperate enough to do the job?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/05/22/opinions/living-off-the-grid-usoa-kamau-bell/index.html

Estimated 180,000 people live off the grid. There’s a ton of federal land and also a ton of land that people don’t actively check on. There’s actually a liberal minded enclave on the coast of Washington where people live this way. The difference is those people are productive and don’t interfere with anyone. Urban homeless are shiftless addicts who make life worse for those nearby.
12   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 Apr 5, 2:27pm  


At best the question you can ask is why do we need illegal immigrants if we have so many useless people? Are they just not desperate enough to do the job?

We don’t need illegals. We need to stop feeding and housing people in time of unlimited jobs. If we do that and then need more workers, we can start a guest worker program.
13   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Apr 5, 2:52pm  

CovfefeButDeadly says

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/05/22/opinions/living-off-the-grid-usoa-kamau-bell/index.html

Estimated 180,000 people live off the grid. There’s a ton of federal land and also a ton of land that people don’t actively check on. There’s actually a liberal minded enclave on the coast of Washington where people live this way. The difference is those people are productive and don’t interfere with anyone.


No, living on federal or public lands is illegal and sooner or later someone will report you and you will be kicked out.
As for living "off the grid": it means something else: "being off the grid means living in a 265-square-foot home not connected to a sewer system, a city's electrical grid or gas utilities."
15   RC2006   2018 Apr 5, 5:00pm  

Need drive by water cannons.
16   FortWayne   2018 Apr 5, 5:54pm  

I disagree with this approach. It’s not a new idea, and it’ll have unintended consequences like the last time this was done.
17   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Apr 5, 5:55pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
As for living "off the grid": it means something else: "being off the grid means living in a 265-square-foot home not connected to a sewer system, a city's electrical grid or gas utilities."


Which basically limits you to 30 miles away from Winnemucca or Cheyenne.
18   MAGA   2018 Apr 5, 6:16pm  

Can we include Realtor's?
19   RWSGFY   2018 Apr 5, 6:27pm  

Round them up and send to Indiana: https://apple.news/AIWqlRzKVTNupnLC4WDoVdQ

“If you show up and have minimal literacy skills, you can find a job here.”
20   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Apr 5, 6:29pm  

So crazy guys like this don't get shot after they spend an hour pointing what looked like a pistol as passerbys.

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