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California to require Patrick to change his Forum. We will have to submit our posts to him, so he can forward it to the official ministry of "Snopes", for approval to post.

By Tenpoundbass following x   2018 Apr 10, 6:33am 4,008 views   41 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/04/it-begins-california-senator-introduces-bill-to-kill-free-speech-requires-state-sanctioned-fact-checkers-to-approve-online-content/


SB1424 is brief. Read it:

This bill would require any person who operates a social media, as defined, Internet Web site with a physical presence in California to develop a strategic plan to verify news stories shared on its Web site. The bill would require the plan to include, among other things, a plan to mitigate the spread of false information through news stories, the utilization of fact-checkers to verify news stories, providing outreach to social media users, and placing a warning on a news story containing false information.

(a) Any person who operates a social media Internet Web site with physical presence in California shall develop a strategic plan to verify news stories shared on its Internet Web site.

(b) The strategic plan shall include, but is not limited to, all of the following:

(1) A plan to mitigate the spread of false information through news stories.

(2) The utilization of fact-checkers to verify news stories.

(3) Providing outreach to social media users regarding news stories containing false information.

(4) Placing a warning on a news story containing false information.

(c) As used in this section, “social media” means an electronic service or account, or electronic content, including, but not limited to, videos, still photographs, blogs, video blogs, podcasts, instant and text messages, email, online services or accounts, or Internet Web site profiles or locations.

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2   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 10, 6:44am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
(a) Any person who operates a social media Internet Web site with physical presence in California shall develop a strategic plan to verify news stories shared on its Internet Web site.


Given the costs of real estate (I'm sure commercial or land for server buildings is high as well like residential) in CA being so high, are there that many web sites "physically" sitting in CA on a server? This seems kind of like a stupid plan given the relative ease in moving a web sites information to another physical location. Businesses will just move the "site" to another state in order not have to deal with one of the dumbest laws/regulations I maybe have seen in a while.

Look to short REIT's that are heavy in tech/server commercial property in CA if this goes through. I don't know of any, but I'm sure there's a special REIT out there for that type of thing.
3   komputodo   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 10, 6:59am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Just use a disclaimer that the post isn't a "NEWS" story.
4   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 10, 7:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
Given the costs of real estate (I'm sure commercial or land for server buildings is high as well like residential) in CA being so high, are there that many web sites "physically" sitting in CA on a server? This seems kind of like a stupid plan given the relative ease in moving a web sites information to another physical location. Businesses will just move the "site" to another state in order not have to deal with one of the dumbest laws/regulations I maybe have seen in a while.


We really don't even know if this website is hosted in CA.
5   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 10, 7:12am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

zzyzzx says
We really don't even know if this website is hosted in CA.


It's either San Fran or New York based on the hosting info. So 50/50 shot or so I believe. Either way, switching to servers in a different state is pretty trivial. A lot easier then having to comply with some dumbass regulation.
6   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 10, 8:06am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

There goes first amendment.

I hope no one thought liberals are only after the second amendment.

I’m pretty sure a class action lawsuit would nullify this if it passes.
7   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 10, 9:25am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

What an idiotic bill, but it's never going to pass.
8   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 10, 9:30am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
but it's never going to pass.


I'm not in CA, but have heard some pretty dumbass stuff coming out of there. Never say never.
9   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 10, 9:33am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I don't see how that bill could possibly stand, since it would be a clear violation of the first amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


This would totally be an abridgement of freedom of speech and of the press.

The important thing is that everyone in the Sacramento area vote against CA state senator Richard Pan from now on.
10   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 10, 11:18am   ↑ like (8)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

As long as the "fact checkers" are immense hirsute lesbians, gays, transgendered, university diversity gatekeepers, feminists and their puling cucks, minorities seeking reparations, public service union reps, anti-gun weepers and Hollywood Royals, I have absolutely no problem with these policies. I know they will only reflect the fairest of fair speech.
11   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 10, 11:22am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
I don't see how that bill could possibly stand, since it would be a clear violation of the first amendment:


Have you seen what California democrats have done to the 2nd amendment?

This is what us libertarians (and some conservatives) have been saying for years. First they come for the 2nd, then they go for the 1st. Socialist are very predictable.

Democrat leftist do not respect or care for the Constitution, it's a barrier to their type of rule.
13   ForcedTQ   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 11, 9:35am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is what the Constitution was made for. This proposed legislation would have the government limit free speech. That is unconstitutional based on the limitations placed on the government under the first amendment. The people now see how much contempt Richard Pan has for the Constitution, it is time to RECALL HIS ASS! He is trying to subvert the constitution, we cannot let him do this.
14   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 11, 9:43am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
I still can't believe that this is real, but it is


It's bad. I'm still hung up on "physical presence." What does that even mean? If your corporate HQ is in CA you have to do this? Or is it literally the physical location of your severs and the data? What about sites that are hobbies that there's no revenue generated and it's not even a business? It does say "person" in there.

I don't know this politician, but this is so poorly written it's alarming that they got elected. Or if he has staff they're incompetent.
15   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 11, 9:45am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Voting Democrat has consequences.
16   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 11, 10:08am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Voting Democrat has consequences.


I'm not even sure if its the Senator that's worse or the Democrat sheeple that voted this ignorant mouth breather into office.
17   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 11, 10:16am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
HEYYOU's federal tax proves that there is no tax cut.
A tax is just an example of Republican Redistribution Socialism that steals from those that create their personal wealth.
Fucking Rep/Con theives! Why do they punish the Free Market?


You don't get a federal tax cut when you are on Social Security disability and don't actually pay federal taxes.
18   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 11, 4:38pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Good point from a friend:

all joking aside, it's unbelievable (maybe it's not) such a law could even be proposed

It seems unenforceable just from a practical level

I mean, what are the criteria for proving "truth", say of a particular interpretation of certain events. What would be the criteria to determine "truth" or "falsity" of some interpretation of the RFK assassination? If someone suggested the CIA was behind it thru Palestian agents it controlled, would that be sanctionable under the law if the site that hosted such comments did not "examine" it and post appropriate warnings?

It really seems that the whole purpose of the law is to further burden the expression of free speech, forcing it into channels acceptable to the powers that be. Or just to chill the expression of speaking generally other than in official and corporate channels.


Yes, looks like our corporate owners want to reserve the definition of "truth" for themselves and prosecute truth that they don't want to hear. No other opinions allowed.
19   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Apr 11, 4:41pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
I still can't believe that this is real, but it is:


I don't post fake news.
21   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 11, 5:32pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is comedy gold, thanks Ceffer

Ceffer says
As long as the "fact checkers" are immense hirsute lesbians, gays, transgendered, university diversity gatekeepers, feminists and their puling cucks, minorities seeking reparations, public service union reps, anti-gun weepers and Hollywood Royals, I have absolutely no problem with these policies. I know they will only reflect the fairest of fair speech.
22   HEYYOU   ignore (21)   2018 Apr 11, 5:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CovfefeButDeadly says
HEYYOU says
HEYYOU's federal tax proves that there is no tax cut.
A tax is just an example of Republican Redistribution Socialism that steals from those that create their personal wealth.
Fucking Rep/Con theives! Why do they punish the Free Market?


You don't get a federal tax cut when you are on Social Security disability and don't actually pay federal taxes.


May I help you remove you foot from your mouth.
How about releasing my tax return & my social security records?

Expert trolls always prepare for unsupported comments by taking the simplest points.
Why do Republicans tax the majority of Americans with a Federal TAX?
How many times is this TAX paid thru a purchase,of other retail items?
Sellers always eat the cost of energy.

United States Federal Excise Tax on gasoline.
Those that wish to add to the list of taxes that Trump/Rep/Cons are taking from your wallet,Go For It!

A tax is a tax!
23   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 11, 7:17pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Oh great, next will be jails for people with wrong thoughts.
24   BlueSardine   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 11, 7:53pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Iwog does...

zzyzzx says
We really don't even know if this website is hosted in CA.
25   RecentCost   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 25, 12:43pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
Given the costs of real estate (I'm sure commercial or land for server buildings is high as well like residential) in CA being so high, are there that many web sites "physically" sitting in CA on a server? This seems kind of like a stupid plan given the relative ease in moving a web sites information to another physical location. Businesses will just move the "site" to another state in order not have to deal with one of the dumbest laws/regulations I maybe have seen in a while.


Yes, anyone running a business is much more intelligent than anyone in the government and businesses will move or find another way around it.

Why doesn't California just create a state-run news network so the residents can be told exactly what to think? All other sources of news that don't agree would be considered hate speech.
26   HEYYOU   ignore (21)   2018 Jun 25, 3:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Who would believe anything on patnet,anyway?
Snopes would rate us as BULLSHIT! :-o
27   marcus   ignore (5)   2018 Jun 25, 3:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
California to require Patrick to change his Forum. We will have to submit our posts to him, so he can forward it to the official ministry of "Snopes", for approval to post.


I wish. Opinions can still vary, but Americans need to learn that there is such a thing as true facts.

If the facts aren't known for sure, then that's a fact, and it's okay. But the current polarization we have with half the population being totally cool with a President that lies constantly, is major (dead) canary in the coal mine (so to speak).

Tenpoundbass says
I don't post fake news.


I lost count several years ago.
28   someone else   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 25, 5:40pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
But the current polarization we have with half the population being totally cool with a President that lies constantly, is major (dead) canary in the coal mine (so to speak).


The polarization issue would be fixed by:

1. stopping the export of US jobs to countries without labor or environmental jobs (tariffs can help with this)
2. stopping the import of illegal aliens who are brought here specifically to lower wages and benefits for poor US citizens

The left has become anti-labor, ironically. Long ago, they supported labor against capital. Now they have abandoned labor and concentrate only on non-issues like tranny bathrooms.

Remember: Trump is the symptom and not the cause.

Maybe we need a conservative Labor party to permanently reduce the Democratic party to insignificance.
29   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Jun 25, 5:52pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Evan Low is a son of a bitch...a real life Senator Palpatine....dangerous as fuck with his anti free speech drive. The people who vote for him are horribly ignorant individuals who probably should self reflect on why they are bad people.

I can’t possibly express how dumb anyone who votes for Evan Low is. But the threats from the right.....
30   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Jun 25, 5:53pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rando says
The left has become anti-labor, ironically. Long ago, they supported labor against capital. Now they have abandoned labor and concentrate only on non-issues like tranny bathrooms.


They're actually ANTI-working class with the deplorables, ignorant Trump voter, anything with a semblance of middle America whether it's Chick Fil A or Roseanne The war on wages using illegals is almost an extension of this.

Agent #5 shows that -she's an archetype.
31   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Jun 25, 5:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Add Richard Pan to everything I said above
32   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Jun 25, 5:59pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trump re: Red Hen - “The Red Hen Restaurant should focus more on cleaning its filthy canopies, doors and windows (badly needs a paint job) rather than refusing to serve a fine person like Sarah Huckabee Sanders," the president wrote on Twitter.

"I always had a rule, if a restaurant is dirty on the outside, it is dirty on the inside!"

I love my President.
33   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Jun 25, 7:20pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

If anyone wants to know who the thought police are, who the PIGS are....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Low <-------DANGEROUS ASSHOLE WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Pan <--------DANGEROUS ASSHOLE WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH

If you vote for either of these individuals, you are an actively bad person.
34   just_dregalicious   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 25, 10:23pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hopefully it's knocked down by the courts. This sounds like Article-13 which the EU just passed. It is ambiguous as fuck but definitely covers the same topic as CA:snopes and then some.

The fascist global left is attempting to control the internet due to all of the ass kickings they've been getting lately.
35   marcus   ignore (5)   2018 Jun 26, 5:58am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

someone else says
Now they have abandoned labor and concentrate only on non-issues like tranny bathrooms.



This is so dishonest. The left failed to stand up against corporations as labor slowly got fucked over (destroying private sector unions, private sector pensions, and the onslought of outsourcing). BLaming the left for not preventing all of this is disingenuous.

THe left have still stood up for labor that works for the government, but all the other gullbilbe right wingers HATE that and want to see government compensation lowered, which is nothing more than the next step towards lowering labors compensation everywhere in the U.S., by removing the competitive options that labor has of being payed decently for government jobs.

You're correct in one way. Trumps con artistry has been deployed in part due to the desperate and gullible hopeless feelings of many Americans. But I wouldn't call Trump a symptom. Trump is a fake attempt to rectify the situation, and his tax cuts guarantee that the next democrat will be stuck looking bad for doing the right things.

Do you ever ask yourself why it is that you guys always buy into deficit exploding tax cuts for the wealthy ?
36   bob2356   ignore (3)   2018 Jun 26, 6:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
I still can't believe that this is real, but it is:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB1424


Did you read it?


SB-1424 Internet: social media: advisory group

SECTION 1. Title 14.5 (commencing with Section 3085) is added to Part 4 of Division 3 of the Civil Code, to read:

TITLE 14.5. False Information Strategic Plans
3085. The Attorney General shall, not later than April 1, 2019, establish an advisory group consisting of at least one member of the Department of Justice, Internet-based social media providers, civil liberties advocates, and First Amendment scholars, to do both of the following:
(a) Study the problem of the spread of false information through Internet-based social media platforms.
(b) Draft a model strategic plan for Internet-based social media platforms to use to mitigate the spread of false information through their platforms.
(c) Not later than December 31, 2019, present the results of the study and the model strategic plan to the Legislature, pursuant to Section 9795 of the Government Code, and to the Assembly and Senate Committees on Judiciary.
SECTION 1. Title 14.5 (commencing with Section 3085) is added to Part 4 of Division 3 of the Civil Code, to read:


All it does is commission a study and drafting of a plan. WTF is everyone and gatewaypundit babbling about? Whole lot of triggering going on.
37   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Jun 26, 7:51am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
drafting of a plan


Drafting of a plan to do away with the First Amendment is important and sinister. Low and Pan have got to go.
38   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Jun 26, 8:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

By time the Liberals ALMOST get their way for their endgame, they'll all be dead.
39   APHAman   ignore (8)   2018 Jun 26, 10:07am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
By time the Liberals ALMOST get their way for their endgame, they'll all be dead.


How do you figure?
40   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Jun 26, 10:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
How do you figure?


Communism's end game is death. Commies have many enemies not just their dear leader trying to disappear and kill them.
It's wrought with perils none never live to see a Commie utopia because it doesn't exist.
41   bob2356   ignore (3)   2018 Jun 26, 12:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
bob2356 says
drafting of a plan


Drafting of a plan to do away with the First Amendment is important and sinister. Low and Pan have got to go.


You've seen the plan? It's not written yet, the bill isn't even passed yet, it's still working through committees. How did you manage that? Paranoid just a little?

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